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Paragraph377 19th Jan 2021 03:00


Originally Posted by Fonz121 (Post 10970658)
With the treasurer saying jobkeeper won’t be extended, what assistance can those of us who are employed but not getting a wage expect to receive?

I assume we won’t be eligible for Jobseeker due to the fact that we apparently have jobs. Is there anything at all we’ll be able to access (genuine question)?

Its pretty poor form from the LNP. If you haven’t already, may I suggest a quick email to your local federal member.

Deputy PM Michael McCormack reckons there are heaps of fruit picking jobs up for grabs. You can even earn $3,000 per week, make lots of friends, enjoy an adventure. Wow, that is an amazing opportunity. I wonder if the Ministers family and friends have embarked on this lucrative opportunity?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....85134def1ae737

I guess it is just fortunate that no crisis that we face ever disadvantages our Politicians. They still collect a ludicrous salary, they have their Superannuation PROTECTED under legislation, they don’t lose their businesses and they don’t have to pay for their own utilities, offices, vehicle etc. Complete scum.


getaway 19th Jan 2021 03:14

start learning the words to this song for your future "masters"

Monty Python - I Like Chinese


601 19th Jan 2021 07:18


the March election is effectively a formality.
How may time have we heard that before!!

Ragnor 19th Jan 2021 08:31

WA is a lost cause McClown will do McClown things write off seeing loved ones etc for at least another two months.

Queen P has been very quiet on this front what’s her next move keep it shut or open up before end of the month maybe 1st Feb?

JQ are standing crews down in ML and SY base for Feb SY has lost 70% of flying. Maybe Miss Jayne is going to strike on AJ and take her frequent flyers back.

Turnleft080 20th Jan 2021 00:10

Fantastic game of cricket at the Gabba, oh Mr Mclown so sorry you missed out on your test match due to your East German philosophy.

dr dre 20th Jan 2021 02:17


Originally Posted by Turnleft080 (Post 10971653)
Fantastic game of cricket at the Gabba, oh Mr Mclown so sorry you missed out on your test match due to your East German philosophy.

Only 5,000 people attended the Gabba for the final day, 12% of capacity, you really think they’d be disappointed on not hosting an event that would barely be bringing in any revenue? I think the real money in sports is made in TV rights, you could host the Test match in Birdsville, as long as enough watched the broadcast it’d be profitable.

Foxxster 20th Jan 2021 02:59


Originally Posted by Kickstarter (Post 10970835)
heard a rumour that China is quietly offering very cheap loans in the Pacific. As many billions as these island nations want (that they'll never ever be able to repay).

We better all start learning mandarin.

As others have said, this is old news. Look up China Vanuatu or China Fiji and perhaps more worryingly China PNG. Last month, Papua New Guinea signed a memorandum of understanding to build a $200 million "comprehensive multi-functional fishery industrial park" on Daru Island. Google Daru. There isn't much there, including fish.

As Jeff Wall, a long time adviser to the PNG Government, wrote in the Australian Strategic Policy Institute's publication The Strategist this week, "the town of Daru is the closest PNG community to Australia. Even though it is around 200 kilometres from the Australian mainland, it is very close to the islands of the Torres Strait that are within our northern border."

so, in reality, they will build a massive wharf complex, big enough to take very large warships.. and perhaps a few fishing boats which will hover around sensitive Australian military facilities and have lots of strange aerials on them. They may even build an airport, you know to fly those non existent fish out back to China .

Foxxster 20th Jan 2021 04:15

I made a comment before about what would happen when the virus mutates to a variant that renders the current vaccines useless or close to it.

if anyone thinks this will all end in 6 or 9 months when a significant portion of the world population is vaccinated...well..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

dr dre 20th Jan 2021 04:53


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 10971713)
I made a comment before about what would happen when the virus mutates to a variant that renders the current vaccines useless or close to it.

if anyone thinks this will all end in 6 or 9 months when a significant portion of the world population is vaccinated...well..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

Stop reading too much Daily Mail or you’ll fearmonger yourself into a frenzy.

COVID mutates slower than the flu.
COVID strains are more genetically similar than the various flu strains are.
Mutations don’t necessarily render current vaccines useless.
Getting immunised against basic SARS-COV-2 will provide a level of protection against all strains, some more so than others.

Vaccines can be targeted to new strains of the virus. Every year scientists use forecasted predictions to choose which 4 influenza strains should be included in that year’s flu shot.

When you get your yearly flu shot in autumn does it bother you that scientists are already trying to work and predict what strains should be in the vaccine for the following season? Because that’s essentially what the article you posted is talking about if you strip away the usual Daily Mail tabloid hyperbole.

Fact check: COVID-19 and influenza vaccines too different to be directly compared

Ragnor 20th Jan 2021 05:38

Seeing domestic borders will remain closed to each other in various ways slowly killing off domestic flying. How will QF handle what seems an indefinite grounding of its international pilots and aircraft? JQ has a different EBA QF have a RIN which would most certainly send the group broke if done.

wheels_down 20th Jan 2021 05:48

I think the shift will now start to move toward the ongoing financial viability of the QF group to continue operations. A injection from somewhere will be needed before the year is out, and sadly much debt will be carried beyond this. Much more than originally planned.

You can see why Virgin is keeping its operation bare bones and holding off signing new contracts with vendors at the moment.

I don’t think laying off more workers is yet the answer. They will need the revenue and scale when this thing drops off to repay all this debt. They need the employees. Shrinking the operation isn’t the answer.

I’d be more concerned around 787 Long Haul Low Cost vanishing compared to anything else.

Ragnor 20th Jan 2021 05:53

I'm not concerned about the LCC 787 going. That was always going to happen regardless of Covid-19.

jrfsp 20th Jan 2021 06:07

I think the A321s would have replaced that 787s probably anyway....by the looks of it the A321 XLR should just about have the range for all of Asia, if from OOL or CNS which tends to happen with north Asian routes now anyway. I cant see HNL coming back.


wheels_down 20th Jan 2021 06:13

I guess it’s a more an issue with, they own these 788s and they can’t sell them for what they want. Was window before all this started to offload 3.

Norwegian has blown that plan by flooding the market with them.

However they might need them now to borrow against them.

jrfsp 20th Jan 2021 06:20

Well indeed, i dont think the 787-8s would have great re sale value either, only option would be to transfer to QF to replace 330s on lease, but even that wouldn't be a cheap option, and on short - medium routes the A330s are actually able to hold their own fuel wise and would probably have less capacity than the 332s

thisishardtochoose 20th Jan 2021 08:23


Originally Posted by Turnleft080 (Post 10971653)
Fantastic game of cricket at the Gabba, oh Mr Mclown so sorry you missed out on your test match due to your East German philosophy.

If thats why you think the test match didn't happen in Perth then I have a bridge to sell you, btw absolute gem of a game though

Sunfish 20th Jan 2021 10:21

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/i...azilian-amazon

Its killing younger people. Still want to open the borders dickheads?

SOPS 20th Jan 2021 10:47


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10971923)
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/i...azilian-amazon

Its killing younger people. Still want to open the borders dickheads?

It only kills us boomers. The young ones are all ok to go.. open the borders and let it rip. That is the case is it not, Sunny??

ScepticalOptomist 20th Jan 2021 11:46


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10971923)
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/i...azilian-amazon

Its killing younger people. Still want to open the borders dickheads?

We sure do.

Ragnor 20th Jan 2021 18:40

With the WA election getting momentum, WAxit party is gaining a little momentum. Do WA residents think this would be a good thing and would vote for CP old throw a ways?


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