I’m still gobsmacked anyone believes AFAP is genuine option, Onya Jetstar, thanks for bringing GA to the Airlines!

Some of you lot are just embarrassing with the childish garbage you carry on with. AoA, how would you know “GA” with the 10 minutes you probably spent exposed to it. If this is “GA” (a catch phrase of idiots), then things have certainly improved since my years in it. Would also love to see you take a post on a bargaining committee and do better, but alas you can’t even string a sentence together.

By all means continue to beat yourselves up on here if you find it therapeutic,..

I don’t think you’ll get much support from those millions out there not enjoying our salaries and conditions, nor from too many other airline pilots in this country either to be frank (or that 66% JQ majority that are smart and voted it in).

Maybe we should have another COVID couple of years to remind us of just how lucky we are. Short memories.

"Maybe we should have another COVID couple of years to remind us of just how lucky we are. Short memories". Thas FOIs take on the industry.

This is the exact problem the pilot group has encountered time and time again. This post really sums up the issues deeply embedded within the union and its issues dealing in an adult manner with its members.

Wishing for another covid experience with all the hurt and damage it caused to so many shoud get this poster kicked off this forum.

Not being paid for 2 years? I fail to see how that equates to being lucky.

FOI has really shone a light on how the AFAP " Actually operates " and the ongoing hopelessness of the situation encountered by the 34%.

MCD

Seems to be the same consistent rhetoric with you Al.

From memory, most GA jobs paid under $50k, some only $20k and you flew around in a beaten up piston single VFR.

Yet most full time Jetstar Captains will earn at least $250k and some even towards $300k, for flying a "JET", the same aircraft type used by the legacy airlines. How can this be GA?

This is whilst the average Australian salary is under $100k, yet somehow $250k+ is supposed to be GA and below the poverty line? (Yes, apparently Jetstar pilots are below the poverty line I heard once).

why compare yourself to the rest of the population? Do they fly as well? Totally irrelevant what everyone else earns.

just in time for a profit upgrade too. Surely the YES crowd must feel like a bunch of mugs.

Yeah, according to the yes voters in this thread, we can't compare ourselves to the US gang who are earning more flying regional jets, yet we can compare ourselves to woolies workers.

That did make me laugh during my morning coffee. Must be good to know you have helped fund another bonus for execs.

Good work guys!!

Not when I'm being accused of working below the poverty line or being in GA (a low income job).

Jokestar, ****star, onestar, nostar, scabs, peasants weak and spineless, GA... call us what you want. I'll take my $300k this FY and you are free to call us what you want. **** money hey?

Comparing ourselves to the US when we live in Australia is what is irrelevant.

I think it is rather appropriate to compare the negotiating and bargaining ability of pilot unions in a similar capitalistic country though.

.... and one union is negotiating 20% + pay rises over one year, one isn't.

Maybe it's time we get someone from the ALPA to give these blokes a pep talk. Although just about any other union in Australia with similar membership density could probably do a better job anyway.

Not really similar. That other country has a severe pilot shortage unlike Australia.

Maybe that has something to do with it?
​​​​​​​Did you ever compare this ?

I called you nothing of the sort. That’s great you’ve made 300k. How hard did you have to work to get that? Is it sustainable? How’s your fatigue? Duty travel sorted?

300k is good money. It’s what you had to do to get it that counts. Maybe then, it doesn’t look like good money.

I guess all the cancellations on the FIDS screen for tech crew shortages don't count.

Usually due cabin crew or AOG.

Qantas flags boosted profit of up to $1.45 billion for early 2023

Good job locking in a pay freeze for the next 2 years. Unbelievable. :ugh:

It is considering regional pilots in the US are earning 200-400k usd quite easily.

How so? Given how easy it is to transition to the US I don’t see it so irrelevant at all.

You are laughable MCD. Keep bashing away…

Go then and take MCD with you. Uptopia awaits…(for us, when you’re gone and living in Detroit).

If this utopia exist, I think I need to go now JQ has run its course.