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Originally Posted by Paddleboat
(Post 10639623)
Impressive. So I get paid $305,000 a year. And I do this whilst working 30% less than the average Australian. Average is about 40 hours a week, 30% less 28 hours a week. So that is about 5.6 hours a day, over a 5 day week.
5.6 hours duty is a nice 2 sector day, and puts me around 70 hours flying for the month. So somehow, despite the fact I'm 5 hours short of even getting into overtime, I'm able to turn my 200k base into 300k, and only ever have to do 2 sectors! And don't forget thats only average, meaning 50% of the pilots earn even more!! I'm honestly at a loss as to how these lies are told seemingly without consequence. Thus, theoretically, pick 80 hours per month (it suits rubbery figures) pilots do "20 hours a week" then a little cut here, a nudge there and contrasted to the "average" full time employee doing 32 paid then it is close enough. 30% less hours has a nice ring to it.....Great for the sound bite. Of course JQ use a similar methodology to claim the various associates and entities are "profitable" Ignoring duty hours is standard playbook. O'Leary did it, so did BA. Little Napoleon has other curious interpretations.. |
Originally Posted by Paddleboat
(Post 10639623)
And don't forget thats only average, meaning 50% of the pilots earn even more!!
Interesting to note the step change in company releases on the ongoing PIA.. I've got a bad feeling about this. |
Originally Posted by Paddleboat
(Post 10639623)
Impressive. So I get paid $305,000 a year. And I do this whilst working 30% less than the average Australian. Average is about 40 hours a week, 30% less 28 hours a week. So that is about 5.6 hours a day, over a 5 day week.
5.6 hours duty is a nice 2 sector day, and puts me around 70 hours flying for the month. So somehow, despite the fact I'm 5 hours short of even getting into overtime, I'm able to turn my 200k base into 300k, and only ever have to do 2 sectors! And don't forget thats only average, meaning 50% of the pilots earn even more!! I'm honestly at a loss as to how these lies are told seemingly without consequence. |
So Mr Evans only works while he’s seated behind his desk for his 4 million per annum does he? Wonder what his hourly rate works out at then. |
Originally Posted by nefarious1
(Post 10640004)
So Mr Evans only works while he’s seated behind his desk for his 4 million per annum does he? Wonder what his hourly rate works out at then. |
Captain's earn over $300,000 a year. They work 30 per cent less than the average Australian and that level of pay rise [15 per cent] simply isn't sustainable," Another route is to apply pressure on the journalist's publishing this rubbish through the Australian Press Council or MEAA. |
Gold Neville! But you forgot, the average Australian: Has very little responsibly in their job; Cant lose their job for having a bad check; Isn’t re-checked every 6 months; Usually spend Christmas and other holidays with family; Does less than 12 hour duty days etc. etc. etc. These spin doctors are lying to the Australian face. |
Originally Posted by Johhny Utah
(Post 10639613)
Obviously the hypocrisy of someone who is paid ~$4M per annum calling out anyone else for being overpaid and underworked is lost on the Jetstar CEO :rolleyes: He was paid $3.7M last financial year, and just shy of $4M in the 2018 financial year. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7eb439d30.jpeg If he makes the wrong decision whilst sitting at his desk & pocketing $3m+ a year it is just reported as doing business in a tough enviroment,that excuse doesnt work at 30000ft. Of course,pilots earn too much😧 |
The union certainly needs to get on the front door with this and demand an apology for lying to the public based on; duty time hours, weekends and public holidays worked, no meal breaks ever, unallocated time for study ect. How much of the publicised pay is over time and superannuation ect. How much does the average FO earn. Surely this clown has opened himself up to some serious questions by the media. |
Originally Posted by nefarious1
(Post 10640171)
The union certainly needs to get on the front door with this and demand an apology for lying to the public based on; duty time hours, weekends and public holidays worked, no meal breaks ever, unallocated time for study ect. How much of the publicised pay is over time and superannuation ect. How much does the average FO earn. Surely this clown has opened himself up to some serious questions by the media. He started to change the subject when Matt Doran started asking about how they came up with 15%, he then went off track to talk about the TWU. |
Originally Posted by B772
(Post 10639371)
I have been told there has been little impact upon the travelling public. Everyone has got to their destination. If this is the case Little Napoleon may have the upper hand.
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It may have already been mentioned so apologies in advance if it has but on Saturday, the MFO (are they still called that??) and SBP for Jetstar NZ were flying together on a domestic 4 sector day in Australia.... is this even allowed?? |
NZ is on the Australian AOC isn’t it? They are VH registered machines. However I’m not aware of Virgin NZ crews doing domestic. Jetstar do use NZ crews for Australia to Pacific Island flights. |
Originally Posted by HOOROO
(Post 10640211)
It may have already been mentioned so apologies in advance if it has but on Saturday, the MFO (are they still called that??) and SBP for Jetstar NZ were flying together on a domestic 4 sector day in Australia.... is this even allowed?? |
I imagine it would only be a problem if they were on inferior contracts to the Australian based Jetstar pilots. |
I wonder what the secret company surprise that is reportedly going to be sprung on Monday is ? |
Why would the Management pilots from Jetstar NZ not be able to fly in Australia? They are not Union members, and are on contracts that Inassume exceed the FWA Award rate. As far as I know the restriction on NZ crew flying in Australia is just an agreement between AFAP and Jetstar so I am guessing can be breached in situations when that relationship is strained. NZAPLA members were sent advice that if on STBY and required to work in Australia then they would have too but were asked to think carefully before volunteering to do so for WDO’s. |
https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...16-p53kal.html So Jetstar have some loss making routes and they try to tie them in with a pilots dispute! Pure genius! :yuk: |
I’d say the 3 787’s they are “considering selling” would be the rumoured aircraft earmarked to join mainline. I’d doubt the PIA has anything to do with it. Don’t let the bastards get you down.
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Browsing through the comments sections in the articles on the JQ action in The Australian. For what its worth, it’s probably the most anti-union audience in the country, yet many, if not most of the comments seem to be supportive of the ‘fight’, or at least suggesting management salaries are the ones out of touch. For those worried about public perception, your calm and measured approach to this action is probably paying off. Well done. Stay strong. |
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