There's been a heap of East coast commuters to per for the 330 in the recent past, Melbourne seems to be the easier option

Should be a 737 FO in 6 months. ;)

Literature abounds with regard to the QF Industrial Relations model.

Whist there are more extreme postures, QF is adversarial.
Treating front line (Customer facing) the way they do would seem a farcical posture, but it is what it is.
Airlines are a team sport a dynamic and fluid business, having your people onside would seem axiomatic.

Herb Kelleher of Southwest said:

It would seem QF didn't get the memo and extending that to potential employees is simply not in their playbook.

Are there any updates on course dates, numbers per course and how many are still on hold waiting for a start date? I believe the hold file has been re-populated lately and I'm just trying to get an idea of how long the wait will be.

Cheers in advance if anyone can share some solid information.

Skysook

I asked the same question when they sent me all the paperwork for the medical. They wanted all this completed at my cost BEFORE it would be sent to the Executive Review Board for consideration. I couldn't believe it. But they said I had to spend it to be considered, so I was left with no choice. What woukd have got me alot more annoyed is if I was unsuccessful.

They even had to cheek to say if you do not complete the medical we can can withdraw your application.

Further investigation uncovered that the information the company was looking for was for issues years down the track. Although I already held a Class 1 medical they wanted to find out if there was something that could impede myself in say 10 years time and ultimately affect my employment. I was amazed. They must be playing god in trying the predict the future.

What I have been told there are start dates each month for new/internal applicants. Thats as far as I got with them.

They said they will not issue fleet or base information to those new recruits until 4-6 weeks prior to start date.

Are new joiners getting courses on all the fleets or is it only 787/330? And are the bases varying a lot now or mainly Perth?

That is an interesting point you raise.
In Europe the parasite consumed the host a while ago: Recruitment became the domain of HR. Always looking for 'self justification' many flight operations departments lost control. The result was something that had training departments scratching their heads.
The input of pilots in pilot recruitment was at least in the case of several Europeans carriers, the least worst system. The result of less pilot input and more HR driven process has been increased training costs. 'Candidates' selected by 'talent acquisition' or other buzzword people lacked the 'je ne sais pas quoi' that pilots need. To be fair the experience levels are dropping as the supply of experienced pilots dries up, however the point remains that why allow a business to incur additional cost as a result of loss of process control? Several airlines are looking at removing HR input and returning to something more akin to days past.

In Australia, the lack of recruitment for many years may well have disguised the loss of process control. That loss may well be making itself evident now.
With Little Napoleon at the helm, things won't improve as QF is well and truly captured by management that know little of what it is airlines do: Selecting high quality pilots is one of them.

Sometimes out of the 10-20 candidates, the honest and more than suitable ones are being let go for ridiculous reasons after going through the whole thing.

If it's so cut throat, why do they give people a second chance on the talentq verification test? The only people I know who had to come back and resit these were the ones who didn't actually sit the first one themselves, surprise surprise.

Precisely.

It is even more nefarious than that.
As there is growing correlation between high altitude exposure to radiation and the continued circadian rhythm disturbance for long haul night operations, airlines are increasingly requiring all sorts of waivers prior to employment.