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This is why they make you complete all parts of the testing prior to the Board. It’s the oldest trick in the H.R. book - If the medical turns up something that they believe will cost them money and/or your productivity in a decade, they are able to legally reject you. The candidate will never know that they were rejected for medical reasons, since it can be argued that there was some other fiendish flaw found in the totality of the information in your application (interview, simulator, or the cut of your jib).

If a job offer is extended pending the results of your medical, and you hold the required CASA Class 1; it is illegal to reject you on medical grounds. American Airlines used to have a medical prior to employment. They were informed that it was illegal, and quietly dropped that portion of the assessment.

The above statement is correct for Qantas over thirty years ago so probably still the case.
I was initially knocked back with no explanation in 1995, they changed eyesight standard (previously the same as RAAF apparently, no glasses allowed!) and I was put on hold late 86, got in 1988. Two and a half years of lost seniority. :(

ruprecht

13th Nov 2018 03:24

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Originally Posted by Tankengine (Post 10309562)

I was put on hold late 96, got in 1988. Two and a half years of lost seniority. :(

...but at least you got to travel back in time. :O

dragon man

13th Nov 2018 04:03

The no glasses rule was changed only because they ran out of suitable applicants. Crazy.

JPJP	13th Nov 2018 05:04

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Originally Posted by ruprecht (Post 10309570)

...but at least you got to travel back in time. :O

If you cross the international date line enough times, this is what happens. It’s not a pretty sight :E

Tankengine

13th Nov 2018 05:33

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Originally Posted by JPJP (Post 10309599)

If you cross the international date line enough times, this is what happens. It’s not a pretty sight :E

too true! Yet another reason to retire by 60. ;)

Tankengine

13th Nov 2018 05:41

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Originally Posted by dragon man (Post 10309580)

The no glasses rule was changed only because they ran out of suitable applicants. Crazy.

Yep, of course nobody will say that officially.
Age for employment went from 28 up to 46 over a few years for the same reason and no discrimination allowed (officially) anymore.
Luckily getting in when I did saved me from Ansett, overseas airlines etc etc. 🤔

Gligg

14th Nov 2018 09:06

Surely once you get to medical stage, a no means you have been 'out-medicalled' Sounds like Gattaca has arrived.

normanton

14th Nov 2018 11:15

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Originally Posted by Gligg (Post 10310839)

Surely once you get to medical stage, a no means you have been 'out-medicalled' Sounds like Gattaca has arrived.

Well not really. The review board doesn't look at your application until the medical is done. You would have no idea why they rejected your application. Could be average sim results for someone with experience. Could be the notes from the interview. Could be lack of customer service in your scenario. You will just never know.

startno1

14th Nov 2018 12:29

I’ve been told the feedback from HR was actually quite open about why you were knocked back.
In saying that, some of the reasons are a joke. It seems flying a plane well is down the priority list these days.

normanton

14th Nov 2018 17:35

I think internals get feedback. Externals are provided with nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

mattyj

14th Nov 2018 18:48

I wouldn’t put too much stock in feedback anyway..if they thought your dandruff and stale sweat and body odor issues weren’t conducive to being an airline pilot they’re going to say that a combination of sim and tech exam reasons or something to avoid saying the real reasons

beauzo111

20th Nov 2018 02:16

Anybody have an idea as to when or how often the final review board is held each month for a final decision?

Max-Diff

23rd Nov 2018 08:32

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Originally Posted by beauzo111 (Post 10315176)

Anybody have an idea as to when or how often the final review board is held each month for a final decision?

I believe it's every two three weeks but that said I'm aware some people recently have waited 4 weeks plus. Maybe try calling if you haven't heard anything by three weeks or so. Good luck!

Sparrows.

24th Nov 2018 02:19

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Originally Posted by Max-Diff (Post 10318142)

I believe it's every two three weeks but that said I'm aware some people recently have waited 4 weeks plus. Maybe try calling if you haven't heard anything by three weeks or so. Good luck!

A lot of boys and girls lately had to wait approximently 10 weeks. Even stranger when people who completed everything after them found out significantly earlier (talking about 6 weeks).

Some people tried chasing it up, hold up with medicals
on the doctors desk was the more often then not then answer. Some tried being a little push and were put in their place to a degree. As always, no news is good news

Slezy9

24th Nov 2018 06:33

I know of two guys who got put on the hold file in November last year. They are both still waiting for start dates. Long time to be in limbo!

TurningFinalRWY36

24th Nov 2018 07:24

The issue is that even if you end up on the hold file it doesn't guarantee employment. Offering of a start date is dependent on performance in the interview and if people after you continuously perform better then you are perpetually on hold

Keg	24th Nov 2018 10:10

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Originally Posted by Slezy9 (Post 10318969)

I know of two guys who got put on the hold file in November last year. They are both still waiting for start dates. Long time to be in limbo!

internal or external?

Max-Diff

24th Nov 2018 11:40

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Originally Posted by TurningFinalRWY36 (Post 10318997)

While this used to be the case, I don't believe it is anymore as they worked out that phosophy is completely unfair. Everyone I know who have got QF jobs recently, did so in the order that they went onto the hold file.

Aviatrix91

24th Nov 2018 11:57

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Originally Posted by Max-Diff (Post 10319168)

I’m fairly sure it is still the case based on people in the most recent courses with the exemption of internals

Slezy9

24th Nov 2018 20:12

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Originally Posted by Keg (Post 10319093)

internal or external?

Both external.

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