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balusnomore 3rd Feb 2018 00:00

122 resignations since 2015, they only had about 220 odd at the peak didn't they?

Maybe the Managers should look at raising the recruitment age to 95 instead of just 75....haha!!

lucille 5th Feb 2018 21:34

Is anyone left in PX who were there from the early thru late 90's? For their sake's, I hope they managed to move on to better places.

From these pages, it sounds really dire there now.

tripelapidgeon 6th Feb 2018 11:32


Originally Posted by lucille (Post 10043183)
Is anyone left in PX who were there from the early thru late 90's? For their sake's, I hope they managed to move on to better places.

From these pages, it sounds really dire there now.

There are a couple of senior citizens from that era who moved on and are now back or on their way back . We are talking the plus 60 and plus 65 brigrade.

Kiwiconehead 6th Feb 2018 22:57

Speedy is still there in Engineering, little bit slower these days.

geeup 7th Feb 2018 01:36

70 & 75 year olds also in the mix..
8 domestic sectors a day with continuous early starts will be a worry.
ANG retirement village 😴

Propstop 7th Feb 2018 09:06


Originally Posted by Kiwiconehead (Post 10044360)
Speedy is still there in Engineering, little bit slower these days.

He has been there forever! He started 40 years ago at least as I left 35 years ago having spent 5 years with pixie.

fdr 7th Feb 2018 09:28


Originally Posted by geeup (Post 10044431)
70 & 75 year olds also in the mix..
8 domestic sectors a day with continuous early starts will be a worry.
ANG retirement village 😴

"Age shall not weary them..."

About 4 times a year, I go fly some fun planes for training recurrency, PT22, PT17, Pitts S2... the youngest IP I have is 78, the oldest is 82, and they still teach me stuff every flight. I still fly military and civil jets as well, and so I cannot say anything against age at all. Flying is in the mind, and I have flown with youngsters that should have been on pushbikes not planes. I have flown tactical stuff recently with guys approaching big age numbers and they can be hard of hearing and somewhat cranky on occasions, but they can still do a damn good job. Where I have been, some of the F22 and 35 instructors were young about the time that VN was not a headline in Lonely Planet. Age shall not weary them, atrophy comes from not using your mind or body.

Getting into an ejector seat is less comfortable as you get older, a reminder of what you have got out of your body.

Duck Pilot 7th Feb 2018 09:49

No disrespect, however these highly experienced elderly Captains are flying big RPT aeroplanes in the toughest environment in the world with very minimal support.

Are they still going into Chimbu?

NCD 7th Feb 2018 11:01

Duck,

PX doesn't operate into Chimbu these days.

Not privy or even care about the reasons, but all the LINK crew are grateful not to to have to go. From the air the surface looks ok.....but remains horribly short...and high!!!!!!!

It is left up to Waps to provide the Highlands excitement experience these days.

Mangi Fokker 7th Feb 2018 21:05

"hard of hearing and somewhat cranky on occasions,"

They'll fit in perfectly.

olderairhead 9th Feb 2018 03:27

I see that Alliance have posted an ad in the Post Courier today (page 58) for expressions of interest for Fokker 100/70 type rated Captains and F/O's.

The boys will be busy tonight!

balusnomore 9th Feb 2018 10:34

Olderairhead,

You referring to PNG's Post Courier listing the jobs???"

Any 457 Visas being offered???

Right to work in Aussie would leave PX with a shed load of Fokkers with absolutly no one to fly em!!!!

But Be Sad times for those that hung out at pixie,hoping the court case would fix the problems... They should ave left when the proverbial hit the fan at the end of 2014..

krismiler 9th Feb 2018 13:29

Looks like a Pilots market as far as the Fokker is concerned at the moment. Rated and experienced drivers should start demanding decent terms and conditions. It’s an older type and not in mainstream use anymore so unlike the A320/B737 there aren’t many 200hr wonders coming along with the type on their license.

No one is going to self fund a rating on something like this and those who flew it in the past have probably moved on to bigger and better things by now. Experienced and current Pilots should be able to command a premium based on supply and demand.

tripelapidgeon 9th Feb 2018 13:51


Originally Posted by krismiler (Post 10047310)
Looks like a Pilots market as far as the Fokker is concerned at the moment. Rated and experienced drivers should start demanding decent terms and conditions. It’s an older type and not in mainstream use anymore so unlike the A320/B737 there aren’t many 200hr wonders coming along with the type on their license.

No one is going to self fund a rating on something like this and those who flew it in the past have probably moved on to bigger and better things by now. Experienced and current Pilots should be able to command a premium based on supply and demand.

Ahh you talk logic and reality not in the thinking of those now in charge of PX. Toofar , the blue lagoon and others of thier ilk have different agendas certainly not the success and sustainability of the national carrier.

geeup 11th Feb 2018 05:37

Did ANG just deliver another Fokker 70?
P2-ANY
How many Fokkers are now in their fleet?

olderairhead 11th Feb 2018 05:37

After the continuing flight cancellations and flight delays questions are finally being asked in Parliament and by the journalists.

And surprise, surprise the fact that 122 pilot's are no longer there since the ECP began is being ignored.

https://mylandmycountry.wordpress.co...ilot-shortage/

And


tripelapidgeon 11th Feb 2018 07:35

Dominos Pizza needs to go back to class to learn English grammar. His "press release" was non-sensical and reminiscent of something that would be produced by a lower primary school student.

Older I believe the acronym coined for the restructuring (most will say destruction) of Air Niugini was the VEP (Value enhancement program) not ECP

olderairhead 11th Feb 2018 08:23

Above the surface that's what Poxie called it, but behind closed doors it's the ECP. :E

fortybelow 11th Feb 2018 10:51

ECP - Expat Cast-out Plan?

Love the politicians though: "delays for the last few weeks..." - :ugh:

SammyBigs 11th Feb 2018 21:03

Hello friends

I came across two PX recruitment ads on avcanada looking for Dash Captains and Fokker crews (both Captain and FO). Apparently seeking both full-time and rotation positions. Around 2012, I saw one of their ads looking for Dash Captains with 3 weeks on/3 weeks off rotations based in Cairns with salary of ~140k/year (AUD). That seemed pretty reasonable to me. As a Dash Captain who's flown for a few months in PNG on a survey contract, I'm interested in hearing what they have to offer this time. I had a read through this discussion and there's some great info on here (thanks to all for keeping it updated with the current stuff) but I didn't see anything about current salaries and what the new rotations will be.

Can anyone comment about the current salaries and how the accommodations are which are provided in POM (I gather the lodging is in the Ela Beach area)? Also, what is the rotation they are offering (the ad says 3 on /3 off with 6 on / 6 off "by negotiation"). And what are the chances of internal movement to Fokker or other types?


Thanks very much for the help. Shoot me a PM if you don't feel like posting.

SB :)


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