Over 100 employees laid off at the government owned OkTedi mine today.

"They are not complete imbeciles" ? huh🤔🤔🤔🤔

Also know a couple of Ok Tedi expats who bailed a couple of years ago because they could not stomach the corruption and ineptitude anymore.

This was planned for the beginning. In 2014 Toofa issued a memo that told all the pilots that the company would move to having an almost all national pilot composition with just a few expats. He has well and truly achieved his goal and I’m sure he is giving himself a big pat on the back every day.

ANG’s current situation is purely political. That’s why the politicians are tolerating it and tolerating the current management team.

Any expat who accepts a position at ANG with an expectation of long term employment is naive, IMHO!

Naive would be an understatement. To take a a job with PX let alone expect any form of long term career would indeed be a perilous move. A little research of this thread or better still have a chat to some of recent and current drivers and they will give the good/BAD oil. Unless of course one would like to experiment in a game of Russian Roulette with all barrels loaded.

That was the result of QF, trying to reinvent the wheel.

Information from my sources tells me that a minimum of 22 flights a day are now being cancelled due to no crew. :ugh:

And as for the recent get together with ops, been told that they had no furniture (tables, chairs etc) so had to borrow them from the Gateway and return them after the frivolities. :ok:

I am hearing that another 3 have pulled the pin. 2 National Captains on the Dash fleet who have recently completed their cadetships only to find they have been put on B scale along with a National FO. All gone to the opposition

Just waiting on confirmation so only a rumour at this stage.

Well congratulations to the National pilots for standing up to the bullying from the 4th Floor and having the stones to do what’s best for them, their families and their careers.

Now, let’s hope the expat pilots left have the gumption to do the same.

And before the two or three apologists that chime in here defending the expats who stay for one flimsy reason or another and attack Pruners like TBL Warrior as they prattle on about supporting the expat pilots.....boo f@cking hoo! .......there are no excuses left for expats to stay in this toxic environment!

With the plethora of jobs available (and I mean plethora) at the moment everyone left should have at least three applications in with other carriers.

Which ones? Doesn’t matter, none can be as bad as the present **** show and just having an application in will make you feel better as you take it up the proverbial.

Unless you have Stockholm’s Syndrome you have no excuse to stay at the South Pacific Circus.

Well said Loud Handle
Agree with every word you said

Looks like the clock is ticking

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This communication would appear to refer to public servants. Not necessarily PX. It is almost a constant the Independent state of Papua New Guinea is on the financial abyss. This does not mean that PX does not have the Cashflow to make its salaries. That being said it does not bode well for the short and medium term viability of the PNG economy, particularly considering the recent earthquake in the southern Highlands. This disaster maybe a blessing in disguise allowing an inflow of cash from foreign donors which will serve as a short term bailout.

I have been told pilots have not been paid yet.

Perhaps Simple Simon and Loony Logona delivered big cardboard cheque to the big cheese O steel this week to bail him out. Leaving the PX coffers empty.

They got paid........... this week.

Worth watching this puts the financial position of PNG into perspective remembering that Poxie is a a guvment company.

And yet people keep applying.
Recruitment sims today and over the next few days.
Don’t just limit the current problems to ANG/LINKPNG as PNGAir, Hevilift, TropicAir, North Coast all have the same issues.
Foreign currency exchange rate or age will be he final straw for the remaining “A Scale” expats.

Why would they worry ? The Australian government will step in with an emergency aid package to bail them out. If the place was competently run it would be a very rich country given its vast resources and relatively small population.

A team of outside auditors would have a field day exposing where the revenue received actually ends up.

The problem with this industry is that there will ALWAYS be people prepared to work for nothing just for a chance at flying a plane, for wearing the cool uniform, telling their mates they are an airline pilot. I can’t blame them. I was like that myself once, flying skydiving aircraft for free to get hours. I saw an ad today for Eagle Jet in the US offering a chance to fly a B747 freighter in the Middle East - just pay $59,000 US and it’s all yours! So I guess the lure of flying for ANG is too tempting for some.

Unfortunately the dream soon becomes a nightmare when you find out that you are stuck in a third world **** hole (just quoting the US president), getting paid sweet FA, always tired, stressed out, even too scared to go for a walk outside the compound. You don’t get to go home when you expect, the aircon in your room doesn’t work and you get bitten by 100 mosquitos and end up with dengue fever or malaria, you are treated like scum (anyone wanting to know how racism feels - this is the job for you), the roster you get isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on, crewing will constantly call and change your plans, and I could go on all day with other examples of why it totally sucks.

I was there for 9 years. The first 2-3 years were great. I thought I had the best job in the world - good money, great flying, good mates to drink with and tell war stories at the bar. But that all changed about the time O’Neil became PM. O’Neil’s government gambled on making money from oil and gas. They borrowed big from China. Port Moresby was gonna be the new Dubai of the Pacific they touted. The mood in PNG became very anti-foreigner, especially Australian. At one time I had an M16 rifle pointed at my head by the police who stole my money (they called taking all my money at the point of a gun a fine) after they chased me and accused me of speeding. But the price of oil plummeted and the rest is history. Now PNG is an economic basket case.

The management at ANG also changed at that time and a new policy termed the Value Enhancement Program (VEP) was introduced. This basically involved cutting all pilots benefits, a 30 percent pay cut, and a policy to rid the airline of expats. It was basically a crusade by upper management to put the pesky pilots in their place. This totally destroyed the morale of all pilots, expat and national alike. Over the next three years 120+ pilots resigned. The exodus of pilots brought ANG to its knees.

All those new hires will feel the same after 6-12 months max, I guarantee. There is not one single expat at ANG now who genuinely wants to be there. There are some who are stuck for varying reasons but none of them want to be there. I know because they are my friends and they tell me.

Good luck to you if you go but please don’t ever say nobody warned you. There are over 1000 posts on this thread - if you didn’t read them more fool you!!!

By the way if you really want to be an airline pilot so much I reckon you’d be better off paying the 59 grand and doing the 747 freighter gig myself - a lot less stress!

Eagle Jet International, Inc.

DHC8 Driver well summed up but Simple Simon is fixing it.

He says so here Air Niugini takes steps to address Pilot Shortage | Papua New Guinea Today

the airline has already taken steps to address the current pilot shortage by improving terms and conditions of the existing crew to stay competitive in the market

Really???

I honestly hope for the sake of the guys still there that it’s true, but I reckon it will be too little too late. Especially given the overall state of the PNG economy and the falling Kina.

The problem for that management team is that no one believes a word they say anymore.

[QUOTE=DHC8 Driver;10069295]The problem with this industry is that there will ALWAYS be people prepared to work for nothing just for a chance at flying a plane, for wearing the cool uniform, telling their mates they are an airline pilot. I can’t blame them. I was like that myself once, flying skydiving aircraft for free to get hours. I saw an ad today for Eagle Jet in the US offering a chance to fly a B747 freighter in the Middle East - just pay $59,000 US and it’s all yours! So I guess the lure of flying for ANG is too tempting for some.

For a person to do these Eaglejet programmes, an FAA or JAA license is needed, also some type of visa, a person has to pay for their own accommodation, the biggest worry is sending tens of thousands of dollars to people on the other side of the world, that just answer the phone.

If a person wants to go down that path and has access to large amounts of money, a better option would be, to get an A320 type rating (35K simulator only) and sign up for the Vietjet cadet programme.
Details are listed through the Vietjet website under careers. Person needs an ICAO Frozen ATPL and type rating.

I know there has been large amounts of discussion on Vietjet, there's nothing mentioned on their website that their programme is a pay to fly scheme, if it is, it's a better option than through Eagle.
Virtually all the Captains at Vietjet are foreigners. Vietnam's an interesting place.