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olderairhead 28th Feb 2018 19:09

Looks like the clock is ticking

https://storage.jumpshare.com/previe...UjedqC16uBUu85

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...18&__tn__=EH-R

tripelapidgeon 1st Mar 2018 05:07


Originally Posted by olderairhead (Post 10068534)

This communication would appear to refer to public servants. Not necessarily PX. It is almost a constant the Independent state of Papua New Guinea is on the financial abyss. This does not mean that PX does not have the Cashflow to make its salaries. That being said it does not bode well for the short and medium term viability of the PNG economy, particularly considering the recent earthquake in the southern Highlands. This disaster maybe a blessing in disguise allowing an inflow of cash from foreign donors which will serve as a short term bailout.

olderairhead 1st Mar 2018 06:03

I have been told pilots have not been paid yet.

tripelapidgeon 1st Mar 2018 07:15


Originally Posted by olderairhead (Post 10068891)
I have been told pilots have not been paid yet.

Perhaps Simple Simon and Loony Logona delivered big cardboard cheque to the big cheese O steel this week to bail him out. Leaving the PX coffers empty.

olderairhead 1st Mar 2018 09:48

They got paid........... this week.

Worth watching this
puts the financial position of PNG into perspective remembering that Poxie is a a guvment company.

geeup 1st Mar 2018 10:39

And yet people keep applying.
Recruitment sims today and over the next few days.
Donít just limit the current problems to ANG/LINKPNG as PNGAir, Hevilift, TropicAir, North Coast all have the same issues.
Foreign currency exchange rate or age will be he final straw for the remaining ďA ScaleĒ expats.

krismiler 1st Mar 2018 11:40

Why would they worry ? The Australian government will step in with an emergency aid package to bail them out. If the place was competently run it would be a very rich country given its vast resources and relatively small population.

A team of outside auditors would have a field day exposing where the revenue received actually ends up.

DHC8 Driver 1st Mar 2018 13:12

The problem with this industry is that there will ALWAYS be people prepared to work for nothing just for a chance at flying a plane, for wearing the cool uniform, telling their mates they are an airline pilot. I canít blame them. I was like that myself once, flying skydiving aircraft for free to get hours. I saw an ad today for Eagle Jet in the US offering a chance to fly a B747 freighter in the Middle East - just pay $59,000 US and itís all yours! So I guess the lure of flying for ANG is too tempting for some.

Unfortunately the dream soon becomes a nightmare when you find out that you are stuck in a third world shit hole (just quoting the US president), getting paid sweet FA, always tired, stressed out, even too scared to go for a walk outside the compound. You donít get to go home when you expect, the aircon in your room doesnít work and you get bitten by 100 mosquitos and end up with dengue fever or malaria, you are treated like scum (anyone wanting to know how racism feels - this is the job for you), the roster you get isnít worth the paper itís printed on, crewing will constantly call and change your plans, and I could go on all day with other examples of why it totally sucks.

I was there for 9 years. The first 2-3 years were great. I thought I had the best job in the world - good money, great flying, good mates to drink with and tell war stories at the bar. But that all changed about the time OíNeil became PM. OíNeilís government gambled on making money from oil and gas. They borrowed big from China. Port Moresby was gonna be the new Dubai of the Pacific they touted. The mood in PNG became very anti-foreigner, especially Australian. At one time I had an M16 rifle pointed at my head by the police who stole my money (they called taking all my money at the point of a gun a fine) after they chased me and accused me of speeding. But the price of oil plummeted and the rest is history. Now PNG is an economic basket case.

The management at ANG also changed at that time and a new policy termed the Value Enhancement Program (VEP) was introduced. This basically involved cutting all pilots benefits, a 30 percent pay cut, and a policy to rid the airline of expats. It was basically a crusade by upper management to put the pesky pilots in their place. This totally destroyed the morale of all pilots, expat and national alike. Over the next three years 120+ pilots resigned. The exodus of pilots brought ANG to its knees.

All those new hires will feel the same after 6-12 months max, I guarantee. There is not one single expat at ANG now who genuinely wants to be there. There are some who are stuck for varying reasons but none of them want to be there. I know because they are my friends and they tell me.

Good luck to you if you go but please donít ever say nobody warned you. There are over 1000 posts on this thread - if you didnít read them more fool you!!!

By the way if you really want to be an airline pilot so much I reckon youíd be better off paying the 59 grand and doing the 747 freighter gig myself - a lot less stress!

Eagle Jet International, Inc.

olderairhead 1st Mar 2018 23:33

DHC8 Driver well summed up but Simple Simon is fixing it.

He says so here Air Niugini takes steps to address Pilot Shortage | Papua New Guinea Today

the airline has already taken steps to address the current pilot shortage by improving terms and conditions of the existing crew to stay competitive in the market

Really???

DHC8 Driver 2nd Mar 2018 02:28

I honestly hope for the sake of the guys still there that itís true, but I reckon it will be too little too late. Especially given the overall state of the PNG economy and the falling Kina.

The problem for that management team is that no one believes a word they say anymore.

Seagull201 2nd Mar 2018 04:02

[QUOTE=DHC8 Driver;10069295]The problem with this industry is that there will ALWAYS be people prepared to work for nothing just for a chance at flying a plane, for wearing the cool uniform, telling their mates they are an airline pilot. I canít blame them. I was like that myself once, flying skydiving aircraft for free to get hours. I saw an ad today for Eagle Jet in the US offering a chance to fly a B747 freighter in the Middle East - just pay $59,000 US and itís all yours! So I guess the lure of flying for ANG is too tempting for some.

For a person to do these Eaglejet programmes, an FAA or JAA license is needed, also some type of visa, a person has to pay for their own accommodation, the biggest worry is sending tens of thousands of dollars to people on the other side of the world, that just answer the phone.

If a person wants to go down that path and has access to large amounts of money, a better option would be, to get an A320 type rating (35K simulator only) and sign up for the Vietjet cadet programme.
Details are listed through the Vietjet website under careers. Person needs an ICAO Frozen ATPL and type rating.

I know there has been large amounts of discussion on Vietjet, there's nothing mentioned on their website that their programme is a pay to fly scheme, if it is, it's a better option than through Eagle.
Virtually all the Captains at Vietjet are foreigners. Vietnam's an interesting place.

tripelapidgeon 2nd Mar 2018 06:57

Elequont DH 8 Driver.

Also the management speak lies and drivel espoused by the righteous King Too Far, Simple Simon and particularly the Blue Lagoon have never been believed by the majority. So what's changed?

olderairhead 2nd Mar 2018 08:51

The 3 resignations I referred to above have now been confirmed.

olderairhead 4th Mar 2018 01:14

Following on from post 1011

https://jumpshare.com/v/9pGWEqiywuicg2LmJDkz

and then

https://m.facebook.com/groups/891607...5923269839378/

olderairhead 5th Mar 2018 10:08

It just gets worse for PNG and surely Poxie

Depressing start to 2018 ? K7 billion less than promised | PNG Economics

tripelapidgeon 5th Mar 2018 12:56

Don't be foolhardy and hang in there boys - high risk nothing to be gained!!!!

Evacuate Evacuate Evacuate!!!!!!!

🕙🕙🕙 The clock to a possible collapse is ticking faster and faster.

olderairhead 5th Mar 2018 23:06

And worse!

Production of LNG will cease for 2 months due to damage caused by the recent earth quake. Impact upon the Kina will impact upon pilot's salaries.

https://www.insurancejournal.com/new.../05/482323.htm

olderairhead 9th Mar 2018 22:35

This one is doing the rounds

https://storage.jumpshare.com/previe...wKsmUDuTGzHRrg

TBL Warrior 10th Mar 2018 00:13

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Originally Posted by olderairhead (Post 10078748)

Below from the PX FB page, equally as funny! any publicity is good publicity someone once said...

tripelapidgeon 10th Mar 2018 02:16


Originally Posted by TBL Warrior (Post 10078790)
Below from the PX FB page, equally as funny! any publicity is good publicity someone once said...

PX management treats its customers the same way as it treats it employees - with utter contempt.

Where has the money gone apart from propping up government coffers and disappearing in a malaise of corrupt aircraft leases, maintenance contracts and various other purchases.

The majority of PX management are interested in themselves , their slash and burn KPI bonuses and being the bigman. Despite dubious ability and a total lack of business acumen. The balance are washed up expats way beyond retirement ,are useless or stuck on the same gravy train themselves. But more importantly if they do know better they say nothing for fear of being persecuted and losing their jobs. Which they 100% need because they can't get jobs anywhere else and are financially up the creek.

I really feel sorry for the frontline staff who are passionate about the airline , have to deal daily with irrate customers and really try to do their best to keep the wheels turning and forever covering up for managements BS press releases. Where the pilot shortage has been caused by the actions of management resulting in over 50% of the experienced pilot force leaving in the last 3 years.


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