Why would EK be taking people to the USA via the Irish Republic???

Boe787, the answer to that is simple, they don't want the route to survive. If it did they would have to order more aircraft and they don't have the money for that.

1A_Please, the level of debt has blown out massively under Clifford/Joyce to a monstrous $11 BILLION. They defend their financial position by saying that they have access to $3 billion in cash reserves but that statement involves some Irish blarney in that $1.3B of that $3B is tied up by Credit Card companies (a requirement since the credit rating was downgraded to junk) so they are operating with less ready cash than is desirable.

he may have meant dxb chris. ive noticed accuracy with iata.icao codes is not a strong point around here

Sorry can I just get that straight: the CEO of an airline, which he claims to have issues with costs, flies somewhere by private jet?

Last chance, ask the Chinese for a bail out?

Apparently he does not eat or drink anything handled by a crew member when he flies QF, so the exec jet is his safest option. Plus, given his salary he no doubt thinks himself in the private jet snack bracket.

Oh yeah...those little jets make him look taller.

According to a mate of mine he is 'often enough to more than notice' on CX.

I wonder if Twiggy is generous enough to have shouted him the trip? It's not impossible they share some 'Union busting' beliefs...

When someone writes the book on the collapse of Qantas I hope they read these threads. It's a Shakespearian tragedy of Grecian proportions with possibly even more liberal dollops of reckless stupidity than 'normal' for such tomes.

I hope he is living with a sense of panic and impending doom. He is certainly displaying the symptoms of panic like vacillation, knee jerk decisions and seemingly decisions made on ideological beliefs rather than logic.

The drunken sailor appears to be getting even drunker and doubling up faster to make good. And I dont mean FMG either - in his defence he's losing so much so fast that would barely register.

Anyone who supports such an inveterate liar, fool and near criminal incompetent deserves nothing less than total contempt.

Standard practice in the world of aviation CEOs. Each can travel on each others flights for free. Problem is it seems Alan travels on other carriers more than his own because that would mean facing his staff.

And who can blame him?

Why doesn't he take his own food tester/taster with him? After all Stalin, Mao and Hitler had them. (oops....I made a Hitler reference). Perhaps even his own personal FA to supervise the onboard food delivery?

In wartime, real leaders never have to worry about being shot by their own troops as more than likely their troops would follow them to the gates of hell. Poor leaders on the other hand.....

Kinda sums up the issue with eating food on your own aeroplanes doesn't it?

VA have released their May stats and have shown a general improvement in both LF and RPKs. Both are suffering but VA are showing that it can be managed and they can see a way out. QF stumbles on.....

Conversation with first class travellers and associated staff indicate that QF cheeseparing of costs in first is not unnoticed.

Thank people running upstairs for business class champagne to serve to first class punters when their supply runs out.

To put that another way, how do you tell a first class pax that their menu selection is not available?

Sunny,

Your insights are great however can you stop starting a paragraph in every post with 'to put that another way'?

I reckon if I google that phrase your posts will come up.

Cheers :)

Blueskymine, off topic, but let me tell you how "to put that another way" started....

Over the years, I have had to deal with perhaps more than my fair share of morons in business and private life. I have found from bitter and occasionally life threatening experience that trusting that people understand what you have communicated without confirmation is very dangerous. That experience was hard earned in the Army, in business, on the roads, on the water, flying and maintaining such things as electrical appliances,

I have therefore developed the habit of trying to confirm that people actually understand the information I try to impart. In that I am guided by the neurolinguistic axiom that if communication fails it is the fault of the person trying to communicate, not the intended recipient.

Now I know its not necessary with the good and intelligent folk of Pprune, but it is a habit that's hard to break. It also occasionally results in "why are you telling me that again? I heard you the first time!!" exchanges with girlfriends.

My late partner had to deal with Chinese students who said "yes" to anything she told them. She developed her own response: "prove to me you know what I just told you". I often wonder if there would be less damaged C172's (bent firewalls) around if an instructor ordered their Chinese student to: "prove to me you know what will happen if you try to land at 75 knots."

To put that another way, I am deliberately trying to add some redundancy in my communication to increase the chances it is understood.

It doesn't. Myth busted.

Ah yes. One on-board "pepper steak", enough to turn anyone vegetarian.

If AJ does eat onboard QF flights I assume he always goes for the steak and avoids the soup. There are much fewer acts of defilement available with a steak.

1A_

Your obviously not familiar with what Pearly White is referring to in the post preceding yours. :yuk:

I guess with some of the bogan a$$clowns working for our company these days you could probably expect that. Some people (bitter and twisted) must honestly believe they are entitled to be employed because of their own personal greatness.

Unfortunately you do come across the occasional pitbull check in staff member, and arrogant cabin staff or pax assistance team member all too often. Sometimes I cringe when I see the way our customer's are treated by them.

This sort of behavior is truly damaging to those staff who are still trying to maintain the highest level of standards, regardless of what we may think of those travelling or how they treat us. ANY suggestion of food tampering is both outrageous and downright disgusting.

I think we would all agree on that point, so WHY is Neil Perry getting $1.3m++ a year for doing what you allude disgruntled crew might do for free?

WHAT? Neil Perry is an SO on the 380? Oh, wait...

Sincerely, I doubt any food is being tampered with. Like terrorism, the terror or food tampering is in the fear of the event, which is virally widespread far more so than the actual act of terror (or food tampering) itself.

And nowhere would the fear be more terrifying than in the tiny little mind of a tiny little leprechaun sitting in the pointy end of a white aircraft with a red tail who knows everyone wearing a uniform working around him loathes him.

Perhaps he should fly aboard his favorite child (subsidiary) instead. Surely the troops aboard the orange-bellied parrot must feel far more benign towards their esteemed leader to whom they all owe their jobs and excellent terms and conditions?

Hey guys. I was wondering if you could all take a little time to read about a problem we have at Qantas Engineering and how you could assist our blokes. The airline are about to sack 175 LAMEs and we're pretty pissed off about it. They are basing much of their claim of over staffing on the lack of maintenance records for the things we try to fix.

Quite often FAs or Techies will call our members up pre departure to have a look at something. The LAMEs will then do what they can to help out but it regularly goes unrecorded, this is what Qantas wants because they can justify more redundancies. For us the more snags we can justifiably demonstrate the better.

If I could kindly ask that anything that you do require an Engineer for, whether it be in flight or beforehand, be written up formally in the Cabin, IFE or Tech Logs. I know that for the crew this may seem like an additional function during the busiest period of your duty but for us it is the lifeline that retains employment. If an aircraft is delayed in the process, so be it. It most likely means there are not enough of you either.

cheers
Steve P

Don't know how it works in Qantas but if I require any maintenance work be performed on my Aircraft pre-departure then it most certainly gets written in the Tech log.......

OOps.. Alan won't be happy again, seesaw seasaw...

http://www.my-kids-corner.com/images/Seesaw%202.gif

I will be interested to see how they explain their way out of this one next month in the annual result figures for Jetstar Asia...

It all sounded so good back in March 2012, remember this...



The Airline Pin Wizard - YouTube

Just as Sunfish's ancestors predicted... in 1683!

Still amazes me the financial pages were soooo slow to even start joining dots. Did they really think little Elaine's QF was too big to be wrong?

Thank you TIMA9X.
 

TIMA9X

You do great work. Thank you as it is truly appreciated.

Very classy stuff!

Spey, thanks for the kind words, much appreciated by all the guys & girls this end who help me out by donating their talents. I can assure you, they all believe in the cause and they support the operational staff at Qantas 100%, we spent a lot of time flying with them over the years, and it's still a great airline!

BTW, We were all having a laugh the other day, we agreed unanimously that our favourite bird was the old QF744 because the Alan Joyce types hate them ..:ok: For veteran pax like us, you know what the 744 is going to do before it does it, your home... if you know what I mean..:)

Anyway, on a more serious note...



I think pretty strong words from another major broker, inline with the above "Credit Suisse" report to Dow Jones regarding J* HK.

What's different this year for LC & AJ, (unlike the previous years at this time) the words out, putting more pressure on AJ & LC and the board to own up. Will they? I think we all know the answer to that.. and probably a good time for us all to be reminded of what was said back in February at the half yearly...



I guess LC & AJ will be brushing up their dance routine for the "Canberra stage show" in the coming weeks, just before the full year results get announced of course... it's in the rules...

Alan and Leigh - Glad I Got You Babe - YouTube

for those who haven't seen it

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Rumours starting to circulate around the traps that EK are to take a significant stake or all of QF domestic. Announcement next week is the rumour. Keep an eye on the QF share price over the next couple of days as that may give a clue.

Probably announced the day before or the day that many of us find out when we're to be demoted.

Why on earth would they sell one of the only really profitable parts to EK? Source of the rumour? Sounds very unlikely!

If Kegs rumour is correct, what would be likely for QF int?


I thought china Southern had already let it slip it was getting a chunk of QF - (in the paper the other week. )

There is no "QF Domestic".

Because it is in the interests of Qantas shareholders. At the end of the day that is the #1 thing for QF board and Alan Joyce. Its the only part of the airline they can break off and sell

Wouldn't that be flagged as an anti-competitive move for the public? Surely it'd get blocked somehow.

Foreign ownership of an Australian domestic airline is legal , just the way Tiger was 100% Singapore owned initially.

All they do is sell off QF domestic under a new company and call it XCV airline, not Qantas and then licence EK to use the QF name for $1 a year.Take the $xxxx and ad it to the company profit sheet. Sell of JQ as a new float on the ASX and AJ pockets a fortune.

Meanwhile staff are under a new airline ownership with new conditions as it's no longer Qantas:=

That was my response to it as well. Though it's true that whilst there is no QF domestic at the moment, there is no reason why there won't be a QF domestic in the future.

Hopefully AJ will be gone soon, did someone jump the gun?

My wife told me on Wednesday that 'apparently' if you type, 'Qantas CEO' into google search, it returns Jayne Hrdlicka.

Anyway, I looked again this morning and unfortunately the result was AJ. 'News reported it though, as I said, maybe someone jumped the gun.


Is someone playing a joke on Qantas? Google search results show Jayne Hrdlicka as CEO instead of Alan Joyce | News.com.au

Joyce gone would be a good thing but Hrdlicka is just the same - she is just a female but will continue everything Joyce has been doing

The only hope is we get a CEO from outside the group entirely.

Preceded by a new Chairman from outside the group entirely.......otherwise it'll be just more of the same. I'm sure Ms Hrdlicka is "a wonderful airline person; so enthusiastic" just as the current Chairman recently described the current CEO.

Without endorsing the rumours re EK takeover of QF domestic (cos i don't know), remember that once upon a time Qantas was just an international carrier that ended up being merged with a domestic carrier. So it wouldn't stretch the boundaries of credibility that it may be so again.