JUST RUN THE AIRLINE! STOP COMPLAINING AND BLAMING EVERYONE ELSE!:ugh:

Qantas doing the splits again, peculiar pre loss stories begin
 

Yep, you are spot on CG, thanks for pointing that out.. :O

Qantas doing the splits again? Pre loss stories ramp up | Plane Talking

Just as an aside, I can't help wondering why there were engineering ops manager positions seemingly vacant recently. This became apparent when Avalon was closed and some of those QF staff moved into ops manager positions at other locations.

The question is, when so many staff are being made redundant, were these positions already existing, or have they been created to absorb those who are considered worthy of keeping for the time being?

Asking this question is not saying they don't deserve the jobs, but rather to make the observation that in the light of the current conditions, that jobs seem to materialize from nowhere.

Can someone shed some light on this for clarification?

Just curious.

Anyone heard from the little guy recently?

Seems the Exploitation of Asian markets seems to be on hold.

JQ are now expanding within their existing footprint. (Huh?)

Anyone happen to ask Alan how the JQ Asian franchises are going to compete against the likes of Air Asia X?

Oh, that's right. Alan's making the most of the first mover advantage in Asia.

Alan? Anyone?

During Alan & Olivia's recent absences. Air Asia X are taking advantage of a potential rationalisation of MAS services.

Air Asia X have signed an MOU with Airbus for 50 * A330 Neos and the options for 50 more.

The Indonesian Air Asia franchise comes on line soon.

Air Asia are also set to expand their operation in to Australia, India, Japan, Africa , West Coast of the USA & South America. Not without mention, returning to London & Europe.

Exactly how does Alan plan to compete with Air Asia X while JQ Asia grows within its existing footprint & while JQ Hong Kong aircraft are being sold.

MC.

Easy, Do a similar deal as we did with Ek and give them all the groups flying also. it's a brilliant (s)tragedy! :ugh:

The long term plan is proceeding nicely. Bleed the airline until it's dry then offer the desiccated carcass up for sale. Surprise surprise, familiar faces emerge as the new owners with their familiar slash and burn techniques. A couple of years to go yet but it will happen. A scam this size doesn't and can't happen overnight. Can't sell it? Go to plan B.

How quick some forget 16 August 2011. Building a Bigger Qantas

The Qantas Group today announced it would acquire up to 110 Airbus A320 aircraft, plus 194 purchase rights and options. These aircraft will facilitate capacity growth across Jetstar’s domestic and international operations, the launch of Jetstar Japan and the establishment of Qantas’ new premium Asia-focused airline. Qantas will defer the delivery of its final six Airbus A380s by up to six years, driving substantial capital cost savings. Qantas’ A380 fleet will reach 12 aircraft by the end of 2011 and 14 aircraft by mid-2013. The deal is worth $9.5bn for 78 A320neos and 32 A320s, which will be used to help Qantas expand its short-haul business in Asia. The remainder of the A320 order will go to other new ventures, including Qantas’ premium airline serving the Australia-Asia market, and to renewing Jetstar’s global fleet – giving us the flexibility to meet growth requirements where needed.

Now There are still A320s coming off the line and being delivered into Alan's driveway and the A320neos have not even started rolling yet.

Hello? Wonder why there's no money for anything else


And this Building a Stronger Qantas Sydney, 16 August 2011


From April 2012, we will expand our partnership with British Airways. This will see the consolidation of our Qantas flights to London through Singapore on our A380s.
We will also partner with British Airways to fly onwards from Bangkok and Hong Kong to London. This is part of our strategy to reduce loss-making, asset intensive flying, while continuing to provide great connections and Frequent Flyer points for travellers to the UK, and other destinations in Europe. Valuable Heathrow slots will be preserved for future access requirements.
- The Kangaroo Route and the Pacific Route are our iconic, flagship routes. We will have more of our award winning A380s on daily services to Los Angeles from Sydney and Melbourne,
and on our daily service to London via Singapore from Sydney and Melbourne.

And we know that Chinese travellers rate prestige brands and safety as among their top travel priorities.Today I can confirm that Qantas intends to invest in a new premium airline based in Asia.
This joint venture airline will have a new name, a new brand, new aircraft and an exciting new look and feel. The airline will not be called Qantas but it will leverage all our Qantas know-how, making the most of our excellence in brand management, aviation safety, customer experience, finance, marketing, and our valuable corporate customer relationships.

For the first time in our history Qantas intends to fully participate in the benefits of an Asian aviation hub.
We will be offering same day services to and within Asia, and overall frequencies to Asia from Australia will grow.
We will be able to feed traffic into the new hub from Europe and Australia, and Asian ports.

http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...eech/global/en

Well all of the above went to plan, didn't it!!

I think the loyal pax are sick of hearing the b/s out of his mouth. Plans that never work, grounding planes, false promises, shooting from the hip and knee jerk reactions.

From what I can gather there is a HUGE loss of loyal pax to other carriers

SIN - SQ
HKG - CX
EUROPE - EK and EY
USA - VA/DL and soon more to UA with their improved service
NZ - EK NZ

If Captain CEO Fawlty had stuck to expanding his One World Alliances just maybe this huge bleeding might have been stopped. AS it is we are introducing pax to EK and there is no longer any incentive/need to fly on QF metal

July 18 2011....

Jetstar to invest $470m in Singapore hub

Can someone tell me what these guys were smoking at the time?

And that is what the loyal pax are saying and probably explains why he has been virtually invisible to the public since early March.

Each other.......


.:yuk: :yuk:

He said smoking not poking:oh:

Loyal pax?

You mean there are some left?

I did see that there was some form of Jetstar 737 training going on in Brisbane the other day. Does anyone have a theory?

They use the 737 simulators for the sim assessments in recruitment. So I suspect the allotted sim time would have been earmarked for recruitment. Whether it happened or not????

Why would they assess prospective recruits on a type they don't operate?

Are these cadet positions, rather than DEFO?

Simple. To see if the prospective candidate can really fly an aeroplane. You don't fly an Airbus you operate it. Thats what every Airbus pilot tells me. Real pilots fly Boeings.

Yeah, OK, fair enough. Silly me.

Jetstar candidate simulator tests were done at the Qantas simulator facility at Melbourne. Prior to that, the Ansett Aviation Training Centre 737-300 Level D simulator was used. The assessment test is conducted without the aid of flight director and autothrottles. The speed was kept back to 180 knots for all manoeuvres except on final for an NDB and an ILS.

The test included a take off and climb to 4000 ft, basic instrument flying skills with steep turns, set rates of climb and descent at fixed airspeed, and basic asymmetric handling in level flight. No checklists. The actual landing from the Cat 1 ILS was not assessed as it was felt it was unfair to throw a candidate into the deep end of a jet transport landing/reverse thrust etc without previous dual instruction. At some point during the assessment the candidate was required to demonstrate navigational situational awareness by fixing the current position by means of purely ADF cross bearings.

There are some turbo-prop operators who for cost reasons prefer to assess their candidates on a generic 737 NG Microsoft flight experience synthetic trainer. These are located in some capital cities to attract tourists. Certainly cheaper than a proper Level D full flight simulator but lacking the fidelity. These operators may require the candidate to learn off by heart a whole series of generic checklists and mandatory call-outs as important to the assessment. On the other hand the Jetstar thinking is the assessment should be on purely on general handling ability, and instrument flying skill - without the additional impost of requiring the candidate to learn a generic checklist during the 30 minute pre-flight briefing.

An Irishman wants a job, but the foreman won't hire him until he passes a little maths test.

Here is your first question, the foreman said. "Without using numbers, represent the number 9."

"Without numbers?" The Irishman says? "Dat is easy." And proceeds to draw three trees.

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"What's this?" the boss asks.

"Have you ain't got no brain? Tree and tree plus tree makes 9" says the Irishman.

"Fair enough," says the boss. "Here's your second question. Use the same rules, but this time the number is 99."

The Irishman stares into space for a while, then picks up the picture that he has just drawn and makes a smudge on each tree... "Ere you go."



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The boss scratches his head and says, "How on earth do you get that to represent 99?"

"Each of da trees is dirty now. So, it's dirty tree, and dirty tree, plus dirty tree. Dat makes 99."

The boss is getting worried that he's going to actually have to hire this Irishman, so he says, "All right, last question. Same rules again, but represent the number 100."

The Irishman stares into space some more, then he picks up the picture again and makes a little mark at the base of each tree and says, "'Ere you go. One hundred."

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The boss looks at the attempt. "You must be nuts if you think that represents a hundred!"

The Irishman leans forward and points to the marks at the base of each tree and whispers, "A little dog came along and pooped by each tree.
So now you got dirty tree and a turd, dirty tree and a turd, and dirty tree and a turd, which makes ONE HUNDRED!"


The Irishman is now head of Qantas
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Hmm, sorry, it was funnier when the pictures were in the email I received.... ;0

Is $1billion conservative?
 

$1 Billion dollar loss - then go screaming to the government/media and call for IR reform.

Hasn't Little Al has been a wee wee quiet lately?

And these snippets to the media are all very conveniently timed.

Interesting link Spey, and probably why the little bloke has been very quiet of late.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, if you collect what has been said since 2011 until now, I think AJ catches himself out on his strategy as each year passed by.. if you have the time, now is a good time to review what was said before he reveals all at the end of the month.. As many have said on this thread, now with more that 1.5 million hits, time and time again the management have blamed everything and everyone else but never themselves. I think all the good people that are left in the Qantas group since AJ and Co set off on their crusade have done a wonderful job "keeping the show on the road," under these extremely trying circumstances created by the management, kudos to all of you, it's still a great airline!




The last week or so I read through all of this thread again, I was reminded of all the great contributions from some great people who demonstrated their love for Qantas just by taking the time to post, it also reminded me of the powerful John Singleton interview back in 2012, (also includes the EK tie up Inside Business interview with AJ where he really hams it up) I think Singo was right on the money back then..



Sums up the thread I think...

Especially the part @25:30 "If we do nothing we'll soon be flying Sydney to Melbourne on Emirates"

Good video.

IR Reform
 

There are managers running around at the moment saying that the current redundancy provisions are going to be changed.

FEDSEC, is this possible if they go to FWA and cry poor?

This appears to be lurching from one disaster to the next....is anyone actually in control? It seems to me the little guy has left the building weeks ago.

It's probably more to do with making the most of this opportunity. Everyone knows they are going to make a loss they may as well make it a huge one so they pat themselves on the back next year with a great job they have done. Never waste a crisis - even a self created one.

Cry poor and do what? They can vary the award by agreement of the parties or they can apply to have the agreement terminated.

If you do some research, you will find that it is very difficult to terminate an active agreement. [2010] FWA 6468.

So what's the odds for AJ still being there at the end of the month?

AJ's Chances?
 

So what's the odds for AJ still being there at the end of the month?

Not Good we all hope! :ugh:

When?
 

When will AJ get the 'tap on the shoulder' ?

As soon as the current bloodletting is done. Shareholders would want to present a very lean organisation to the new leader.

Not far away.

Australian airline Qantas reduced to ?junk? status - World Socialist Web Site


Older article but pretty much sums it up atm


Qantas is "investment junk status"

28/8
 

Hopefully in 21 days there will be many on a slow boat to who cares where. How about Jetstar Arctic? Better chance than Fragrant Harbour...

Is it true that the money received by Qantas from Emirates for booking pax onto a Emirates flight has been reduced from 18 to 10%. Well done AJ!

I believe that QF pax using the EK lounge in DXB cost QF $200 per visit. Hence the recent change to eligibility rules for use of lounges by Qantas Club members.

Great deal done by those involved. Ansett failing was not a fluke!!!

Low-cost airlines see softer ticket sales
 

Hmm, now the "cannibals" are starving.. and guess what amazing strategy AJ and Co kept working on when the signs were there more than 12 months ago, the LCC long haul model, which appears now to be the wrong decision entirely.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-H.../001-graph.png

Meanwhile CX & ANZ prove otherwise as people on here have already said..

The armour plating Qantas needs | Business Spectator

Can't wait for the excuses on the 28th of this month, will be entertaining to watch.

Quote "Can't wait for the excuses on the 28th of this month, will be entertaining to watch"

It will be the same as before - fuel, competition, etc etc. Blaming everyone but themselves.

What the biggest worry is not much to look forward to and yet Emirates was meant to save QF Intl.............how big will that loss be?

Official answer to that..

Doesn't matter, it appears now another airline will buy in now restrictions are looser according to Gareth Evans, I guess it's bonuses all round next year!