For obvious reasons I am not able to comment directly on the source of this information.
There are crew who have recently been given a start date and they will be on the old AWA because they have opted to sign it (it is Skippers after all) and the AWA will be changed after that for new hires. The new AWA will be a little more realistic, but not finalised! So no exact details at this point. Skippers are on a very regular basis x-hiring DH8's and Emb-120's from Network, Maroomba, NJS and the odd F50 from XR due to the crew shortage! Thursday morning we had 4 x-hires! Lake Johnston is almost totally served by x-hires from NJS and Maroomba. There are plenty of cadet's in the system, but due to experience they are unable to make the step to command. There is not a flow of experienced drivers to take that step. The current AWA is keeping most away. Nor is it retaining experienced staff. Company morale is through the floor with plenty of bitching, moaning, whinging and just general complaining. Constant daydreaming of better things! Just look at the last skippers ball, barely anybody went! JTpilot I hope this answers your comment! |
You guys are so funny....just go to the Emirates forum...or Cathay...or anywhere else for that matter and you tell me how it really is....
Stop bitching. |
TAC inop?
Huh?
Whaddya mean, cobber? Sorry if I'm missing something really obvious.... 520 |
You guys are so funny....just go to the Emirates forum...or Cathay...or anywhere else for that matter and you tell me how it really is.... Stop bitching. |
520
you are missing something - maybe you need to read his post again slowly maybe even slower than before you shouldn't have had the labotomy o sorry i will speak in simple words - no more brain chop ok? |
Aha!
Eureka!
Is that what it is?? Thanks for the tip - cause now I know what he's talking about. It's a good thing there are people like you that are smarter than me in this world to point these things out, captwawa! Now I can sleep. Phew! 520. |
Mr Insider,
From friends that work there, apparently; It is still turd sandwiches all round on the AWA front. Company still hell bent on not negotiating / discussing an amicable resolve, massive staff shortage still apparent. Many other organisations aircraft spending more time on the Skippers apron than their own. More Pilots off to other organisation, especially Captains, VB, Cathay, Dragon, NJS, Skywest recruiting again in a couple of weeks more to probably go then, 5 on the roll with QF. The icing on the cake, another lot of Dash 8's on the way and still a staff shortage. Good luck. |
So what about the rumour that a senior manager will be making his swan song soon?
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Qantas understands the seriousness of the pilot shortage and has now effectively elimated the "hold file". Instead, any pilot that passes the recruiting process is sent a letter offering employment with the start date TBA. This is aimed at stopping the loss to other carriers of pilots who have been waiting on the hold file. Employment and training of recruits continues at maximum capacity to allow promotion of S/O's and F/O's in preparation for new aircraft arriving.
Pilots who are unhappy at airlines like Skippers have real alternatives for career progression. |
Surplus
The existence of a "hold file" indicates a surplus of known suitable pilots. If that has been eliminated then that is a return to normality. Not a shortage.
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lose physics and they'd have even more
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lose physics and they'd have even more |
Boeing - my bad. I meant Maths .... :ugh:
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Competitive Market
May get harder now for Skippers with Surveillance Australia now offering Dash 8 Captains 100K + CPI + 2% increase per year retention + overtime + superannuation.
Interesting times. |
Not to mention that apparently many of their Pilots have received letters informing them that their AWA's have not passed the fairness test, interesting times.
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Pay rises for Braz and Dash F/O's??? Anyone know if it's true? :ok:
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Lots of fines coming!
Crew who signed the AWA as new crew, that AWA will stand! Old crew, You are in the money! Few court cases coming up! |
Skip insider,
This is the first I here of any court case. Are any unions involoved? :hmm: Is this info made public anywhere? Laser |
Those fines will be the least of their worries when they put one through a fence or in the dirt!!!!
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GM Exodus
Whats the latest on the GM, heard he is part of the exodus as well?
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About time!
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Great to see the Shake up Skippers needs has begun! CEO RS has left and SQ, the chairman is running the show until a more suitable CEO is sort after! Laser |
Aww, come on. Is this a beat up??
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Word is that he finished up on Friday. can any Skippy confirm this? Have they advertised for a new "used car salesman" to run the place or are they looking for a low time Baron driver to take the reins?
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Can anybody now working at Skippers please give me some information about the current state of the company, available positions, current salaries, if AWA's still required by new hires etc. Will they individually negotiate salaries and T & C etc without an AWA, but a letter of employment instead??
Any info on the recruitment process would also be great. Please PM me if you dont want to post on forum. Thank you, any helpful replies much appreciated. Happy and Safe New Year to all. |
Last 18 pages pretty much summs up the situation!
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Well now that RS has been invited to leave by his good mate SQ how have things changed?
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A very good friend noticed a number of Skippers Pilots loitering around the domestic terminal over the past couple of weeks, suits and ties, a very well dressed mob indeed.
Makes you wonder what that is all about ?. |
Maybe they are looking at gaining employment at Aero-Care??!! Or the Dome cafe even...
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A very good friend noticed a number of Skippers Pilots loitering around the domestic terminal over the past couple of weeks, suits and ties, a very well dressed mob indeed. Makes you wonder what that is all about ?. |
i hear there is a much needed pay rise for the metro f/o's somewhere in the pipeline, in the vicinity of a 5k salary increase i believe.
Any truth to this rumour? |
Are metro F/Os payed a salary now?
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Uh huh
Yes, the Metro F/O's are now paid a salary.
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They have finally realised that for those who may move there for the job and then have their training delayed might struggle financially, only took em how many years to figure it out? A mate of mine was there a while ago they told him they needed him straight away so he moved his ass over there only to get there and have all there training delayed. He had to work on the ramp for a few months to make money.......that is a disgrace. Bout time they began to get their act together and pay everyone a salary.
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Yeah, but what is that salary?
Another thread (CASair for sale) mentioned that Skippers is looking to retire their Metro fleet. Not sure if it's the reality but it's not worth the risk if you are made redundant in 3 months.... |
F/O Salary
Not too sure on what the salaries are for the F/O's. I think the Metro F/O salary is around the 32-35 mark, but can't be sure.
They are looking to retire those Metros, yes. There was a prospective buyer looking at HWR and WAX over the weekend, apparently. Anyone know who the prospective buyer(s) is/are? 520. |
Making way for additional Dash 8-300's.
Metro's will be disposed off and everything pushed into the Braz's Although there is thought that the Braz's may go and be replaced with Dash 8-100's / -200's Makes sense Dash 8 fleet with just the conquest's as corporate |
Way to go skippers get more ****ty dash 8/ 100/200 's while all your competitors are getting jets :ugh:
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Way to go skippers get more ****ty dash 8/ 100/200 's while all your competitors are getting jets *shakes head* |
Right on Skystar. 5 years ago most pilots outside the majors would have sucked ...k to get a gig in a Dash 8. Now the turkeys all reckon they have a God given right to a wunderjet window seat fresh out of school. Tools, indeed.
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Way to go skippers get more ****ty dash 8/ 100/200 's while all your competitors are getting jets |
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