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Jedi 27th May 2008 00:53

Flees
 
Hey Vee Tail,
Not sure if your implying my flees are from the 210, the dogs ive worked for, or the good times ive had?!?

But a good petrol bath got rid of em!:ok:

flyon dawall 27th May 2008 10:37

Interesting stats.
Check out the Scoreboard: 57/500
Pilot attrition rate 0.114
For every 8.7 posts to this thread, Skippers loose another pilot.

ArthurCrump 28th May 2008 08:01

C&T
 
I've heard there are very few check and training staff at Skippers. Anyone know why? Seems skippers will struggle until their numbers improve.

SSUPPDAWG 28th May 2008 08:51

Mr Crump,
3 have departed over the last week....!!!
The answer is very simple, treat your experienced C & T capts with respect ( this goes for ALL your crews) and staff, maybe they might stick around..!!!!!
Treat them with contempt and they will walk....these are the facts at the wonderful world of skippers, something that is still yet to sink in after all these years.....:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh: :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

Shed Dog Tosser 28th May 2008 09:41

Wow, over 500 posts.

It really makes you think about how word of mouth is a very powerfull tool.

Wonder if there is anyone out there in the Australian aviation world that has not been given the good medicine about this operator ?.

Wonder if that effects the quality and quantity of applications for flight crew, gee, i sure hope so :).

Mr. Hat 28th May 2008 10:34

I wonder if there is an award that would go to an operator that achieves a certain number of posts.

Like a pprune medal of honour. A bronze turd sandwich or something special.

flyon dawall 28th May 2008 12:00

"Golden Flea Awards", and the winner is skippers.....

spiderbat3008 29th May 2008 01:12

S.dawg
How very true. They are walking from all areas I believe. Even flighties aren't game to fly with some anymore and their exodus has started too.
Im sure the fleas will want to go back on furrier things as well soon. 210s might be a better option as well.
At least RF will have more car parking spaces to sell again so crew can get to work on time.

Shed Dog Tosser 29th May 2008 01:37

Yeh, and what about the other positive stuff, like ,,,,,, apparently they have a new Dash 8 Captain, just checked to line, has failed the instrument rating renewal three times in the last six months, what about that standard ehhh ?, she's a little beauty, not.

flyon dawall 29th May 2008 11:39

Shed Dog,
Don't stoop to that level, bagging a fellow crew member ain't pretty, it'll come back to bight you on the arse when you least suspect it - what goes around, comes around... :ouch:
Lets get back to talking about fleas..............

Shed Dog Tosser 29th May 2008 11:55

Flyon,

Whilst I agree with your sentiments, IMHO this person has left a trail of destruction in their wake, done the wrong by many many fellow pilots.

Don't believe me ?, next time you are out drinking with folk from other companies, mention the name and see what ensues.

vee tail 29th May 2008 13:38

I do remeber SHED DOG that you were far from the reliable employee.
Such a disgruntal person wants to bag individuals who are working there.
Who cares what he has failed LARD E DAR!!:{

Read the rest of his posts!! Such a positive contributor:ok:

Any way on a nicer front hows the job situation:E

Incidently do you have anything to add to this thread ?, if not good bye and good luck.
Your words

aviationflyer 29th May 2008 14:09

well put VT, i was almost going to say the same myself:ok:

myshoutcaptain 30th May 2008 00:17

it's quite clear this thread has had its day.

does anyone care what else is happening at this operator?it is no different to the normal business model in a year 12 business studies book - staff move on - staff are hired. boring.

most axes seem to be blunt now -

kair12345 - on the money.

tick tock - seems my watch has stopped , it doesnt run on crap.

Shed Dog Tosser 30th May 2008 01:49

Veetail, well I guess you've worked it all out, good job,,,,,,, ?. Never claimed to post with the intent of pleasing you or your buddies, sorry for the disappointment.

Job situation is great, has been for quite sometime, but thanks for asking .

Guess we'll just see in time :).

MACH082 30th May 2008 02:44

Bagging fellow aviators is a big no - no boys and none of us where born as chuck yeager reincarnated! Its hard to keep those IF skills where we would all like to have them, after all there is never much occasion for full IMC approaches in this wonderful state, so can you blame someone for being a tad rusty, or not having the spare coin to brush up on those skills regularly!

Thanks to the crew of WAX the other day. Very professional :)

EMB120ER 31st May 2008 10:46

seems like your watch is not the only thing not working.

Not too long now, folks

Tick tock turd tick tock turd (just dos'nt havee the same ring about it)

it dos'nt matter whether you can hear the ticking or not, because time stands still for no man, comapny or (Insert BUYERS name here)

flyon dawall 31st May 2008 12:04

I think a lot of people fail to see that the only thing ticking and tocking is SQ bank balance.

flightidleflat 31st May 2008 12:56

ticking and tocking in a downward spiral as he struggles to pay his guys their wages and expense claims on time?

Shed Dog Tosser 31st May 2008 13:38

What, pays late again/still, yet you guys think things are OK ?.

Where are those five new Dash 8's, you know, the ones coming early 2008 ?.

Here's a tip, watch the CASA web site and look at who owns the present aircraft, you may just see the aircraft one by one being refinanced, wonder what that would indicate ?.

Pilots that read what is being presented here and still accept a job there deserve no sympathy.

MSC, guess this thread hasn't had its day.

myshoutcaptain 1st Jun 2008 01:21

SDT , it would however a certain few keep trying to grind ... what a great saturday night , searching through casa trying to find anything new to add... sounds like fun.:ok:

vee tail 1st Jun 2008 10:49

Shed dog


Good to see you contributed your usual crap.:ugh:

flyon dawall 2nd Jun 2008 02:27

Bgerk, BGERK!
There's a lot of hot air in all of this.
About time someone wrote something constructive.

Kangaroo Court 2nd Jun 2008 02:34

Twinkle, twinkle little star? Is that constructive enough? Sorry this forum is not entertaining enough for you...oh, that's right it's all about YOU!! Sorry, we all forgot!

flyon dawall 2nd Jun 2008 11:24

Hop along Kanga....

Shed Dog Tosser 2nd Jun 2008 18:18


Good to see you contributed your usual crap
Veetail,

Amongst other things which turned out to be true, who predicted your pay rise some two weeks before you were offered it, have you put much thought into that ?,,,,obviously not, good onya champ:).

Ref + 10 3rd Jun 2008 10:38

Hey folks,

Can we return to the topic please. You obviously all have a different agenda/motive when it comes to Skippers but please revert to the subject at hand. It's getting rather lame.

bazza stub 3rd Jun 2008 12:16

Well put Ref+10

A bit of info ,that wafted my way, (that I believe is worthy of note) is that a whole swag of CA's are rumoured to be leaving. Testiment to the overall Skippers way of doing business and the resident low morale?? :{

dayjob 1 4th Jun 2008 00:39

Mr Tosser (apt name by the way) it seems that you can not post a comment that is positive the only thing that seems to emit from you is bitterness so i am assuming you are no longer in the employment of skippers if this is the case what do you care ,unless of course you did not make the grade then it is just bitter grapes why not move on if you have nothing positive or constructive to say . unless you are not good enough to

Shed Dog Tosser 4th Jun 2008 02:22

You guys crack me up.

Word on the street: six engineers have applied for other jobs since early last week, that's really good news, i am so positive about that :).

SSUPPDAWG 4th Jun 2008 09:19

Iam also positive........... that 3 captains and 1 F/O and around 3 F/A's
have also put in there notice this week as well.....!!:ok:
positive...!!!..........positive...:ok:;)

EMB120ER 4th Jun 2008 11:44

Tock........................................................ .....................

flyon dawall 4th Jun 2008 11:48

News Flash! Woopdeeeeedoooooda day, people have and always will continue to leave. Happens in every company (yes, some more than others), for what its worth had a few mates leave mainstream QF the other day to fly for J*.
For the winging unappreciative 40% of you who have entered aviation in the past 5 years, wake up to yourself and realise how good you've got it - stop bitching and get back to work!

Shed Dog Tosser 6th Jun 2008 14:17

Heard a rumour/story about ex flight crew engaged in legal proceedings ( one of quite a few ) with/against Skippers presenting a ex-senior member of the management team as their trump card in disputing a claim against some terms of employment, and there are more current members to be called on,,,, SLAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

I'm just brimming with positivness.

Arthur Crump you deleted your second post, you know the one where you postuled your opinions on CRM, command ability and your threats of the sky falling in etc etc, (yes i'm pretty sure anyone that knows you worked it out very easily).


Tick......................... (EMB120ER, hope to don't mind a partner in crime)

aviationflyer 7th Jun 2008 01:28

another late night weekend post by the tosser

spiderbat3008 7th Jun 2008 01:39

Speaking of positiveness.http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/...cons/icon7.gif......hows the pay rise for the dash fos going?
Will it stop them leaving if it comes?
Will it stop the flighties from flying away if they also get one even though they are supposedly on a good wicket in comparison to skywest or the joc team.
Will it stop the ginger beers as well as they are also supposedly paid well?
DONT THINK SO http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/...cons/icon4.gif

gordonfvckingramsay 7th Jun 2008 09:49

I have been observing this thread with some interest. I only know what I have read here, but surely with all the people walking and a cadet program in place aren't CASA looking at the situation through the microscope? Experience levels must be falling rapidly.

Monopole 7th Jun 2008 16:39

gordonfvckingramsay :D:D:D:D

I was waiting for that name to come up. One of my fav personalities (not that I've ever met him), but he calls a spade a spade a spade, much what SDT seems to be about.

The long list of ex Skippers employees far out way the current head in the sand current employees. Guys, listen from those who have been there, then enter at your will, but be very careful.. You have been warned (countless times in this forum).

laser650 8th Jun 2008 02:27

Another -300 to be delivered soon.
 
News on the street is that another -300 is to arrive and be online in the next couple of months, but who is going to be left to drive them?
:)

flyon dawall 8th Jun 2008 03:42

New 300....personally i wouldn't believe anything untill arrives out the front.

Monopole, head in sand hey? Speaking from experience or word of mouth, no doubt just another bitter and twisted ex-employee. I'm smelling roses and the beer tastes great!


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