Vee Tail,
I was just wondering about why they are not just looking for pilots with above the min RPT times etc but pre endorsed as well, and then also having 500hrs command on type.
Since they pay a training wage and bond you why are the not wanting to give any new hires,either Capt or FO an endorsement??
I can't imagine there are a huge number of Braz endorsed guys out of work around the country as there are only a few Braz operators, then again maybe there are.

Charter or not, the captain of any multi crew operation must have an ATPL!!
( that is fitting under the 2 crew reqs of course). You
500 multi I am pretty sure is only for RPT low capacity command multi crew.
You don't need 500 multi for ATPL:ok:

I think the Qantas cadets were pulled outta there after the impromptu Jundee aeros display :cool:

The other thing that has been done for years and years is limit progression into the left seat to the few 'brave' twits that kiss up for the move - there have been some exceptions.

Plus the fact that it kills em to hand out those second hand three bar slides, afraid as soon as they are put on the person will leave.

I like their slogan - what an absolute frickin joke.

Time to smell the smelling salts :suspect:

Eqauatorial sounds like you did'nt get an upgrade:eek:

A mate of mine works at Skippers and he reckons that Skippers have an exemption so that their Captains don't require an ATPL to do charter. I guess with that in mind it would be worthwhile for the company to take on cadets.

Equitorial, when did the Jundee incident happen? I've heard about it but I never found out when it actually happened. Why would they get rid of Qantas cadets only to take on other cadetships?

They didn't get rid of the Q cadets, the cadets walked out. Jundee "incident" 26th June 2007.

Vee Tail

As I said:

Zep we were told that Qantas had pulled them out as soon as it became known and moved them to QantasLink

Sorry Vee Tail I forgot to mention the exemption for the ATPL which creative1 rightfully pointed out.

The exemption to which you refer only applies the the metro fleet. The brasillia definitley requires an ATPL to hold a command. There are no cadets at skippers.

Oh yes there are!

Cadets on Metro and Dash fleets only, some have come through the fast track program, and some from off the street.

ATPL exemption only available on the Metro, full ATPL required for Braz and Dash.

Progression available for cadets on Metro or Conquest only!

Ever since the Qantas cadet scheme finished a few years back Skippers have been concentrating on their own cadet $$$$ scheme!

SP

Finally some movement on the Dash fleet I hear today :ok:
is this the beginning of the next wave ?
:confused: still nothing on the EBA, is there even a negotiation in process or will the crews just take what SQ throws there way ? :ugh:
would love to hear more on this topic

Its been a while, what is the latest news in this neck of the woods?

My source indicates:There has been a concerted effort to negotiate a contract that benefits both parties, but there has been no ground given by management other than what has been said to be the minimum legal requirement. That is to say management has given up vrey little and staff have received only what they were due to receive under the new IR system. Apparently a win-lose situation.With regard to the exodus. It has occurred to a large extent with only just enough people left to crew the flights on some fleets. Recruitment is in full swing, but that only covers the people leaving, there is low/no net growth in the ranks. A number of yet to depart crew members have start dates elsewhere.Morale is said to be very low......

EBA votes close tomorrow, what will it be....yes or no?

Doesn't look like the vote got through.

nd the no's have it!!!

So what is the next installment of the process? Does SQ now get to drag this out even longer whilst paying ****e?

EBA through!
 

Seems the powers that be have managed to get their new contract through. Let the rueing begin......

Gains:

F/Os-very little
Capts-were doing okish anyway
Skippers-:E:E:E


and productivity bonus still looms over everyones (those that get it) head to be removed at mangements discresion. Not sure I would be to big a rush to work there. :ok:

Cheif pilot has resigned

Do you mean MC?

Pushed?

Jumped?

Just had enough?

Replacement?

Word is he had just had enough. So I hear he has reverted to line piloting!

Network QF take over causing a bit of stress over at Skippers no doubt...

McDonalds are looking for cleaners!!!

Be a great place for him to p*ss off too :ok:

I hope the rat grinds skippers into the pavement.

not sure it'll be skippers but they're a goin ta grind someone into the pavement SDT!

According to the WA locals though they're no real threat..!

SDT,

Why would you hope that it would grind them into the pavement:mad:.
So all the guys lose their jobs, the stress of financial ruin no way to feed the missus and kids.:ugh::ugh:



At a guess they rejected you or you didnt cut the mustard and were shown the door:D

TID EDIT

All the guys will just get jobs with vb/jq.

Tid,

We were just having fun....

Wow, you must be a clairvoyant,,,,,although not a very good one.

Mr Hat has hit the nail on the head.

Vids @ Youtube also.

Anything you want in life can be...

FAST - CHEAP - GOOD

Simply pick any two, you cannot have all three.

Sure you can, they do.....and whatever bad things may happen as a result are to be dealt with then and there true to reactionary management style. :ugh:

I like the your rule tho icarus :ok:

Lets look around the WA dance floor....

QF is waltzing with Network...:O

VB is doing the tango with Skywest...:O

Skippers is....:rolleyes:

..buying toilet paper and new underwear

That maybe the case Mr Hat, but the underwear is second hand and the toilet paper is new; or was that the other way around?:E

Don't worry, skippers will be tying up with Tiger soon enough :hmm:

Green G would that mean both parties would be getting exactly what they deserve?

So has MC gone back to being a line pilot? If so who took over as MFO?

a marriage made in heaven.

From a buddy that works there, MC is a line jockey but still does the job of MFO until they find a replacement. No word on how that is going, but no anouncements have been made.

I also hear they might lose the parking area across the way soon, where are dashs gonna park?


Tie up with tiger? Perfect!! :D