That must be it. I mean who in their right mind would turn down Dash command? :confused:

I have never worked for them so take it with a pinch of salt the company does you a worth of good as they make you look to other operators how many pilots flying airliners can look at skippers and say they gave me the break.

How many operators (such as Skippers) can look at airline pilots and say that they built their business success through the shafting (use/abuse of) pilots !!

Yes, we got well and truly shafted in GA (work for free, underpaid, etc...) and if the company paid us by the book (the award including all entitlements), then they would not have survived !!

If you worked for free, the said company does not deserve to survive...nor do you in this business. Go sell yourself in Kings Cross if all that you see yourself as is as a worthless whore.

Sorry kangaroo court, I and am not the worthless whore that you say I am.

I never did work for free though I am sure many others did.

When I mentioned pilots working for free, I wasn't talking about myself. I never worked for Skippers either. It was just a general statement about what many others did throughout their career with various operators (not necessarily Skippers).

O Poor bugger me.
It is because of the stream of pilots working for nothing, paying for icus, a very few shortsighted cheapskate operators and a government that relies on publicly supported operators that others cannot compete with that GA is the way it is.

EVERYBODY has to treat GA with much more respect and look at the long term if GA is to develope the way it should.
The outback will not develope properly without a healthy GA. The gold and oil will stay in the ground.

GA is also an indicator of what our airlines will become. And we cannot get GA right without some sort of financial handout.

We are doing it wrong if the whole industry needs handouts to survive.

Crisis management version 3.03, problem solved 457 visa.................

Hangar 1 has had one in it for a couple of days now, and then there was the other parked at the international.
Now, who's gonna fly 'em???? :}

I agree with Bushy 100% on this one. Nobody has the desire to fix G/A as they are afflicted by Shiny New Jet syndrome. G/A provided us with a great foundation of flying skills, fond memories and a true understanding of the enormous cost burden on any operator who chooses to do it properly.

The service to remote communities cannot go unnoticed.

G/A could be fixed if the industry would take itself seriously, rather than run around in circles.

i heard skippers lost 2 captains and 1 dash8 fo to surveillance australia recently

with what SA are offering their crews now i'm not surprised

Does anyone know how the numbers are on the metro fleet? Last I heard they were in diabolic need of crews, both F/Os and Capts.

DC, from what i've heard,five Metro's and 4 Captains, dozens of FO's mainly cadets.

A number of these have been with the organisation ~9+months, still no where near checked to line ( apparently less the 35 flight hours in nine months ), but it gets better,,

Cadets signing up for slots now, having to apparently sit on their hands unpaid untill at the earliest JAN09, then wait greater than 9 months to check to line.

Can Pilots new to the industry be that desperate ?, stupid stupid stupid.

And to the rumour of Skippers buying out Alliance, we haven't heard that corker for a while, come flyon, spin that one again.

shed wasnt it the other way around, alliance buying skipeprs?

Rare as rocking horse poop.
 

:ok:More SA Pilots milling around the domestic terminal in the last week or so in very nice suits carrying CV's and logbooks, one of these Captains checked to line on type not that long at all, good to see some things never change :).

Having gone back more than 12 months on this thread, is there anyone that can provide updated T&C's for Skippers Dash 8 Captains and FO's?

:zzz:

CAPT ~ 90K

FO ~ 48K

excluding super, no allowances on top of this.

FO conditions actually worsened with introduction of 90 days resignation notice and yearly max flying hours increased to 1000

:eek:Capt $90K (incl super), you'd get that flying a C310 for Slingair with a few hours under your belt ($80K plus super according to latest advert).

FRQ CB

Think he said 90 excluding super.