Vee Tail,
I was just wondering about why they are not just looking for pilots with above the min RPT times etc but pre endorsed as well, and then also having 500hrs command on type.
Since they pay a training wage and bond you why are the not wanting to give any new hires,either Capt or FO an endorsement??
I can't imagine there are a huge number of Braz endorsed guys out of work around the country as there are only a few Braz operators, then again maybe there are.

Charter or not, the captain of any multi crew operation must have an ATPL!!
( that is fitting under the 2 crew reqs of course). You
500 multi I am pretty sure is only for RPT low capacity command multi crew.
You don't need 500 multi for ATPL:ok:

I think the Qantas cadets were pulled outta there after the impromptu Jundee aeros display :cool:

The other thing that has been done for years and years is limit progression into the left seat to the few 'brave' twits that kiss up for the move - there have been some exceptions.

Plus the fact that it kills em to hand out those second hand three bar slides, afraid as soon as they are put on the person will leave.

I like their slogan - what an absolute frickin joke.

Time to smell the smelling salts :suspect:

Eqauatorial sounds like you did'nt get an upgrade:eek:

A mate of mine works at Skippers and he reckons that Skippers have an exemption so that their Captains don't require an ATPL to do charter. I guess with that in mind it would be worthwhile for the company to take on cadets.

Equitorial, when did the Jundee incident happen? I've heard about it but I never found out when it actually happened. Why would they get rid of Qantas cadets only to take on other cadetships?

They didn't get rid of the Q cadets, the cadets walked out. Jundee "incident" 26th June 2007.

Vee Tail

As I said:

Zep we were told that Qantas had pulled them out as soon as it became known and moved them to QantasLink

Sorry Vee Tail I forgot to mention the exemption for the ATPL which creative1 rightfully pointed out.

The exemption to which you refer only applies the the metro fleet. The brasillia definitley requires an ATPL to hold a command. There are no cadets at skippers.

Oh yes there are!

Cadets on Metro and Dash fleets only, some have come through the fast track program, and some from off the street.

ATPL exemption only available on the Metro, full ATPL required for Braz and Dash.

Progression available for cadets on Metro or Conquest only!

Ever since the Qantas cadet scheme finished a few years back Skippers have been concentrating on their own cadet $$$$ scheme!

SP

Finally some movement on the Dash fleet I hear today :ok:
is this the beginning of the next wave ?
:confused: still nothing on the EBA, is there even a negotiation in process or will the crews just take what SQ throws there way ? :ugh:
would love to hear more on this topic

Its been a while, what is the latest news in this neck of the woods?

My source indicates:There has been a concerted effort to negotiate a contract that benefits both parties, but there has been no ground given by management other than what has been said to be the minimum legal requirement. That is to say management has given up vrey little and staff have received only what they were due to receive under the new IR system. Apparently a win-lose situation.With regard to the exodus. It has occurred to a large extent with only just enough people left to crew the flights on some fleets. Recruitment is in full swing, but that only covers the people leaving, there is low/no net growth in the ranks. A number of yet to depart crew members have start dates elsewhere.Morale is said to be very low......

EBA votes close tomorrow, what will it be....yes or no?

Doesn't look like the vote got through.

nd the no's have it!!!

So what is the next installment of the process? Does SQ now get to drag this out even longer whilst paying ****e?

EBA through!
 

Seems the powers that be have managed to get their new contract through. Let the rueing begin......

Gains:

F/Os-very little
Capts-were doing okish anyway
Skippers-:E:E:E


and productivity bonus still looms over everyones (those that get it) head to be removed at mangements discresion. Not sure I would be to big a rush to work there. :ok:

Cheif pilot has resigned