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chimbu warrior 17th Jul 2008 23:08

Network getting 7 more F100's
 
Not sure if that is correct (seems a lot), but a large European agency is advertising for F100 Captains for a six month contract in Australia.....

roger_ramjet 17th Jul 2008 23:31

Skycapt - finally someone with some intelligence on this site.
I'm sure you realise already this industry is still stuck in the old fashioned culture of "do your time living in a caravan washing the CP's car every morning and hoping to get 0.1 hrs doing a maintenance circuit in the 152".

Aviation is moving forwards, pushing every pilot through a GA apprenticeship is unsustainable for the growth of the industry, hence many companies have had to start cadet/traineeships to keep quality applicants filling the right hand seat. QFlink and Skipps are just two examples. Cadet and trainee schemes are also a response to the highly mobile pilot workforce - why recruit someone with 2000TT and 500multi when they will leave at the first opportunity, a cadet can be bonded and doesn't have the hours to go elsewhere for years to come - so which is the best choice from a manager's point of view?

The people that had to put up with the hardship of a GA apprenticeship are always going to be bitter about the new generation not having to do it.

skycapt_73 17th Jul 2008 23:56

AH, SDT you font of all things true and correct..... NOT, if you knew anything you wouldnt not have asked (why dont these cadets get a job elsewhere?), because some of these cadets are doing realy well, 1 recently went to an excellent and prestigious job , another has a couple of jet offers and is weighing up the options, this just goes to show that the program is finding valuable people, not just people who have simply done their time or logged some hours.

again what a valid input you have been.

Shed Dog Tosser 18th Jul 2008 00:12

Skycapt,


because 1 recently went to an excellent job
You just keep telling yourself that........

skycapt_73 18th Jul 2008 09:41

I will do SDT or again was it TP?, and you just continue to tell yourself that the comments you make here are worthwhile or of any value to anyone but yourself.
I again challenge you to utilise your superior knowledge and intellect on all thing aviation to solve the problems of this business and not just continue to point out the problems and failings.

slice 18th Jul 2008 14:07

skycapt 73 ......let go....the hate will destroy you!:E

Towering Q 19th Jul 2008 03:22

Just a query Skycapt, why do you use large black font in your posts?

It does make them a little easier to read but it is not as effective as breaking up your longer posts into paragraphs.

Oh, and with the hate thing....just make room for it, breath out slowly and you'll be fine.:ok:

flyon dawall 19th Jul 2008 05:42

Skycapt.

SDT is onto something here...

You wana no what the problem with this business is; problems and failings are one of the same, people like you, who think they know everything & annoy the hell out of those of us who actually do.

Quote: "the team (using the term loosly) is only as strong as its weakest link".

bazza stub 19th Jul 2008 10:52

Gentlemen, gentlemen, please can we keep this thread pure and confine our verbal attacks to the company? One common enemy here. :p

Skystar320 19th Jul 2008 13:44

come on grab a seat and pull it alongside....

Might even get you some popcorn

Mecarsa Bitrusty 19th Jul 2008 15:34

The Australian Fri 18th July 2008


SKIPPERS

DASH – BRASILIA - METRO PILOTS
Skippers are seeking suitably experienced pilots to fill PIC and F/O positions on our expanding Dash 8, Brasilia & Metro fleets. Endorsed applicants are preferred, however applicants possessing multi-crew experience on similar types are also encouraged to apply.
Please visit XXXXXXXXXXXXX to view our entry criteria and lodge and application, or email your resume to: XXXXXXXXXXXX

Good luck!
Maybe if they follow in the footsteps of Surveillance Australia, regarding T&C’s, and sack half the current management, just maybe then they can attract type rated pilots!

the wizard of auz 25th Jul 2008 15:23

Gosh!!!! rumor has it that one of the most experienced captains on staff told em to stick it and walked out.
Soooooo that would be five Metro's and three captains....... doesn't work out so well I guess. Now how are they going to service the up coming woodside contract when none of the current crop of metro captains meet the contract minimum requirements?..
Now where did I leave that spare 30K. I really wanna work there now they have all that room. :ok:

bazza stub 26th Jul 2008 01:00

"told em to skick it and walked out"

What could have prompted such an out burst I wonder?

Led Zep 26th Jul 2008 04:58

Nothing a Network/Skywest/National Jet/Alliance/Maroomba/Direct Air/Star Aviation cross hire won't fix.:E

Ref + 10 27th Jul 2008 04:20

Except that many operators will no longer do cross hires for them.

Too many times bookings have been made only to be cancelled two hours prior to departure. Not nice when other work was turned down due to the already made booking. Sure this is the nature of the business but it used to happen several times a week, sometimes 2 or 3 three times in a single day.

flyon dawall 27th Jul 2008 08:26

Has anyone recieved the CPI end of financial year salary increase as per para G5 of the AWA?

G5. The base remuneration rates payable under this agreement will be adjusted annually effective from the first pay period after the 1st July 2008. The rates will be adjusted by the CPI (12 months all groups) as published by the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

4.5%

spiderbat3008 27th Jul 2008 13:41

Are AWAs still the go??
I believe you cant get the increase until the AFPA have done something to it unless the increase is from the last CPI adjustment before the latest.
Supposedly takes a while and at least long enough to nearly be forgotten about......and possibly not backpaid.........at least thats how it was a few years ago.

flightidleflat 31st Jul 2008 10:30

Word on the PER apron is 2 more clapped out Dash 8 100's coming soon. Ex Qantaslink apparently. Anyone know anymore? Where are they going to park them, let alone crew them, if it's true????

For a company that, according to PPRuNe, "isn't doing so great", the growth doesn't seem to be slowing?

the wizard of auz 31st Jul 2008 14:43

Is it really growth?.......... Or is it a case of using aircraft that they have the most crew available for?. :E

myshoutcaptain 1st Aug 2008 00:39


for a company that, according to PPRuNe, "isn't doing so great", the growth doesn't seem to be slowing?
flightidleflat - :D :D:D:D:ok:


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