Meeting Virgin Blue Minimums
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The minimums for virgin blue are:
500 hours mulit preferred
Know an ex89 virgin pilot= essential
The experience level in some vb cockpits is quite amazing. FO's with less than 1000 hours (who's dad's knew the right people) and Captains with less than 1 year flying 737's. That's 1 years jet experience between them. At qf there is at least 15 years jet experience on any flightdeck. Come to your own conclusions.
500 hours mulit preferred
Know an ex89 virgin pilot= essential
The experience level in some vb cockpits is quite amazing. FO's with less than 1000 hours (who's dad's knew the right people) and Captains with less than 1 year flying 737's. That's 1 years jet experience between them. At qf there is at least 15 years jet experience on any flightdeck. Come to your own conclusions.
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Nerve!!!
qfpaypacket person....you have alot of nerve having a go at VBs Nepotism habits, i mean come on do i have to point out QFs history in this regard, pull ya head in. Oh yeh, you telling me that QF doesnt have guys converting on 737s or 767s as left seat with no prior time on type??!!!! Its just a bloody aeroplane, the sky still appears blue and the ground, brown/green.
People face the facts, you want to work in a country you must play by their rules, get an ATPL. Hopefully one day they will become more realistic but for the now, heads down!!!!
Why countries just dont count a ground school and jet type endorsement as enough for a local ATPL i dont know, oh yes..$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
People face the facts, you want to work in a country you must play by their rules, get an ATPL. Hopefully one day they will become more realistic but for the now, heads down!!!!
Why countries just dont count a ground school and jet type endorsement as enough for a local ATPL i dont know, oh yes..$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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But if you were Raby's son you would be there.... as he is at 20 something as a wiz-banger ace-of-the-base Captain, as seen parading on the pages of some magazine as a dashing young hero in his bomber jacket etc....goggles, scarf, mostache and castor oil was unfortunately missing....but no such luck to a stack of ex AN 737 Captains with thousands of hours on type, just goes to show what a spiv airline they are........
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Many Asian carriers such as Asiana, Korean and Cina Air have found low cockpit experience too high a price to pay and are employing experienced crew from established carriers. Maybe VB will come to the same conclusion.
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As someone said, just get your Oz subjects and shut up. Unfortunately the goal posts will always be moved as conditions within the industry changes
Re all those “experienced” former AN captains wanting instant commands it is just wishful thinking. I don’t want to raise that dreadful 80’s something subject again, but I am sure you will find AN had an even worse discrimination policy towards the families and friends of that 80 something group. QF / VB are entitled to employ anyone they choose so I think perhaps the situation is “Terminal” (no pun) as far as many of the so called experienced AN captains are concerned, so on your bikes, stop winging and go overseas is perhaps the only realistic option now available if you want to stay flying.
Hopefully most of the younger pilots at least will, in time, get employment here with VB or QF.
Re all those “experienced” former AN captains wanting instant commands it is just wishful thinking. I don’t want to raise that dreadful 80’s something subject again, but I am sure you will find AN had an even worse discrimination policy towards the families and friends of that 80 something group. QF / VB are entitled to employ anyone they choose so I think perhaps the situation is “Terminal” (no pun) as far as many of the so called experienced AN captains are concerned, so on your bikes, stop winging and go overseas is perhaps the only realistic option now available if you want to stay flying.
Hopefully most of the younger pilots at least will, in time, get employment here with VB or QF.
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No they didn't "Snowballs" there were lots of people that were employed by Ansett that had close links with the AFAP folk...in fact some would not talk to tech crew etc...but no one cared and no one payed any notice, they were just missguided fools like I think you are ....no one is expecting that ex AN guys will get instant commands least of all the ex AN guys...thats your interpertation but you sound like a little upstart and have no respect for people with greater experience that you...you don't appreciate or have the ability to understand what this is all about....thats the trouble with our society, there is no respect for experience or elders in our society, as I said before VirginBluedotcomdotau is just a spiv airline that attracts people like you......
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R K
R K, I have read a lot of the nonsence you have written over the last 12 months and ignored it.
This last post worried me, it seems to indicate that you need help so I offer this advice.
Give up the internet and find a good shrink before your hate and envy consumes you.
PS.
When you talk about experience it reminded me of the An Captain who trained me on the DC-9.
In his opinion you were only experienced when you attained 20,000 hrs as he had.
Most of his experience was on DC-4,s and DC-6.s flying between Adelaide and Perth.
Did he have 20,000hrs experience or 1,000 hrs 20 times over.
Think about it.
This last post worried me, it seems to indicate that you need help so I offer this advice.
Give up the internet and find a good shrink before your hate and envy consumes you.
PS.
When you talk about experience it reminded me of the An Captain who trained me on the DC-9.
In his opinion you were only experienced when you attained 20,000 hrs as he had.
Most of his experience was on DC-4,s and DC-6.s flying between Adelaide and Perth.
Did he have 20,000hrs experience or 1,000 hrs 20 times over.
Think about it.
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How do you get an interview at Virgin ? I've had my application in for quite a while now, and I hear nothing other than a reply from them when I update my details, indicating they have recieved my updated info. I have well in excess of there min requirements, and don't hear boo. And I do know people in VB, although I would never expect anyone to help me get an interview. Is it maybe worth a phone call to them, or are they just interviewing the people in the know ?
I guess I will just have to hurry up and wait, otherwise.
I guess I will just have to hurry up and wait, otherwise.
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glastar...is that like fying a Jumbo between Syd and Lax for the rest of your life..............................................
amos2...it seems that you and "snowballs" are in the same boat.........what a surprise to your reply.............
amos2...it seems that you and "snowballs" are in the same boat.........what a surprise to your reply.............
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
Time you were in bed, Head - school again tomorrow!
Your childish, immature posts are not clever, nor funny, and give an indication of your young age, which in itself is not a problem - only your juvenile comments!
I could say "grow up". but God willing, you will do that anyway - so how about, "Shut up"
Your childish, immature posts are not clever, nor funny, and give an indication of your young age, which in itself is not a problem - only your juvenile comments!
I could say "grow up". but God willing, you will do that anyway - so how about, "Shut up"
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Kaptin "M"!!!!!.............................you know you should be the Richard Kranium, you have no clue to the reality of life....................and stop masquerading behind the Aussie flag...you are a disgrace to that symbol....................
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There are three requirements to be considered for an interview at Virgin Blue:
1) Know someone who works for them and will recommend you.
2) Know someone who works for them and will recommend you.
3) Know someone who works for them and will recommend you.
OK, so thats just one but you get my point.
I guess you could apply the same analogy to any aviation company, from the tiny charter outfit in woop woop to a regional airline or Virgin Blue.
The guy who just started at your company 6 months ago and with a quarter of your experience could be the guy who gets you a look in at your dream job one year down the track!
So be nice to everyone you meet, you never know!
There are three requirements to be considered for an interview at Virgin Blue:
1) Know someone who works for them and will recommend you.
2) Know someone who works for them and will recommend you.
3) Know someone who works for them and will recommend you.
OK, so thats just one but you get my point.
I guess you could apply the same analogy to any aviation company, from the tiny charter outfit in woop woop to a regional airline or Virgin Blue.
The guy who just started at your company 6 months ago and with a quarter of your experience could be the guy who gets you a look in at your dream job one year down the track!
So be nice to everyone you meet, you never know!
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It's not much consolation but i'm a 9000 hr a320 training captain, 35 yrs old, and they didn't answer me either. go figure.
ps and i am australian born and bred, not involved in 89, single, available to work in any base etc. etc.
oh and i got my Caa/JAR licence when negative marking was in force. a feat in itself. anyway its all a crock of s+++. i'd love too come home but if VB would prefer to recruit kids thats their perogative.
ps and i am australian born and bred, not involved in 89, single, available to work in any base etc. etc.
oh and i got my Caa/JAR licence when negative marking was in force. a feat in itself. anyway its all a crock of s+++. i'd love too come home but if VB would prefer to recruit kids thats their perogative.
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oK guys I promise i am sober this time.
The joining rules seem to have changed in the last 15months re VB
Here are some tips
1. if you know someone get them to recomend you
there are rumours about a minimum of three recomendations yet I know someone who didnt know anyone and just got the nod.
2. i know its arrogant but you are being watched by ex and current workmates, given that VB now has ex Ansett, NJ,Qantas,Flightwest, Skywest, Rex, Kendell, Hazo's, ******, sunnies, Eastern, Southern, ASA, Airnorth plus most of the large charter companies. dont forget that there is more to VB than pilots, I know people who have got in by being recomended by ops, tele and office people. So when your name comes up hopefully someone will recognise you.
3. Try and speak to A.Y but do not hassel her as she is flat out
4. Go to the hammo on fri nights
5. Maybe even to to the overnight hotels in other states just to meet people,
6. If you are flying around the country try and fly VB and ask to see the cockpit after landing just to meet people
7. If you have time try and have lunch down at the cafe at the bottom of the VB building you never know who is eating lunch there.
8. As to the ATPL employment rules, thats life you can do nothing to change it get on with passing the subjects.
9. For you older guys dont lose hope VB seems to employ a lot of 40+ guys
10. for those of you with heaps of experiance i can only comment that nearly all of the ex Ansett guys are highly respected and several are now check and training, there is probably some quota system in place with experiance ect. Maybe the problem that you need to overcome with mamangent is that maybe they percieve that you wont be happy being an FO for a couple of years and you will leave on the first available contract. How you get around this one ???????????
11. I guess at the end of the day VB is a social airline and one that is firmly entrenched in the aviation community, its sort of like playing social tennis, you need to get out and meet people so as to broaden your horizons to get better matches. its up to you if you want to do it.
12. Find out about the endorsement process in melb. they might even have some inroads
13. if anyone wants more info you can email me at my tittle where the letters exceed EGT
The joining rules seem to have changed in the last 15months re VB
Here are some tips
1. if you know someone get them to recomend you
there are rumours about a minimum of three recomendations yet I know someone who didnt know anyone and just got the nod.
2. i know its arrogant but you are being watched by ex and current workmates, given that VB now has ex Ansett, NJ,Qantas,Flightwest, Skywest, Rex, Kendell, Hazo's, ******, sunnies, Eastern, Southern, ASA, Airnorth plus most of the large charter companies. dont forget that there is more to VB than pilots, I know people who have got in by being recomended by ops, tele and office people. So when your name comes up hopefully someone will recognise you.
3. Try and speak to A.Y but do not hassel her as she is flat out
4. Go to the hammo on fri nights
5. Maybe even to to the overnight hotels in other states just to meet people,
6. If you are flying around the country try and fly VB and ask to see the cockpit after landing just to meet people
7. If you have time try and have lunch down at the cafe at the bottom of the VB building you never know who is eating lunch there.
8. As to the ATPL employment rules, thats life you can do nothing to change it get on with passing the subjects.
9. For you older guys dont lose hope VB seems to employ a lot of 40+ guys
10. for those of you with heaps of experiance i can only comment that nearly all of the ex Ansett guys are highly respected and several are now check and training, there is probably some quota system in place with experiance ect. Maybe the problem that you need to overcome with mamangent is that maybe they percieve that you wont be happy being an FO for a couple of years and you will leave on the first available contract. How you get around this one ???????????
11. I guess at the end of the day VB is a social airline and one that is firmly entrenched in the aviation community, its sort of like playing social tennis, you need to get out and meet people so as to broaden your horizons to get better matches. its up to you if you want to do it.
12. Find out about the endorsement process in melb. they might even have some inroads
13. if anyone wants more info you can email me at my tittle where the letters exceed EGT
