Eagle Air Interviewing
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There is still a freeze on hiring fulltime pilots in the ANZ group, so Eagle have been getting around that by hiring contract staff up to the max number (1 per base - although I find it amusing that one pilot is supposedly based out of Whagerai and spends all of his time in BM).
This freeze is due to be lifted when AANZ take on new pilots, so I guess there is an element of preparedness going on.
Standby for the floodgates to open
This freeze is due to be lifted when AANZ take on new pilots, so I guess there is an element of preparedness going on.
Standby for the floodgates to open
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Well contrary to popular belief they're interviewing again!!!
Is it another lot of 10 people or more this time?
Hopefully more people get in this time than last time!!!
And can I ask one question? Why are they looking at relatively low (multi) time people? Sure they have high total time but with only less than 200 hours multi what gives?
There are a multitude of people out there with close on 1000 hours multi - P in C? Why not these people???
Not trying to hype people up but what gives?
Is it another lot of 10 people or more this time?
Hopefully more people get in this time than last time!!!
And can I ask one question? Why are they looking at relatively low (multi) time people? Sure they have high total time but with only less than 200 hours multi what gives?
There are a multitude of people out there with close on 1000 hours multi - P in C? Why not these people???
Not trying to hype people up but what gives?
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Kavu, Kavu, Kavu
I hope that you are not forgetting where once you came from now that you have a long awaited regional job !!!
Some people are far more pro-active when it comes to getting the big jobs. Whilst some with gizzilion hours TT and 1000+ multi think that the regionals should break down their doors begging for them to come work for them, other lesser experienced souls are making the right moves with the schmoozing. Y'all can all fly a plane with your CPL and MEIR, but are you the right plod for the job. Maybe that's how you got yours Kavu
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Good luck everyone!
See you in the crew room
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I hope that you are not forgetting where once you came from now that you have a long awaited regional job
!!!Some people are far more pro-active when it comes to getting the big jobs. Whilst some with gizzilion hours TT and 1000+ multi think that the regionals should break down their doors begging for them to come work for them, other lesser experienced souls are making the right moves with the schmoozing. Y'all can all fly a plane with your CPL and MEIR, but are you the right plod for the job. Maybe that's how you got yours Kavu
.Good luck everyone!
See you in the crew room
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I'm not forgetting about people, I'm just wondering why some are selected above others even when they are "schmoozing" with everyone.
I'm not asking this for myself. I'm trying to look at it from an management perspective. I know they see alot of CV's but how do they go about choosing the chosen few for each interview.
I'm asking this in a positive way not a negative so please don't get me wrong.
Happy happy joy joy
I'm not forgetting about people, I'm just wondering why some are selected above others even when they are "schmoozing" with everyone.
I'm not asking this for myself. I'm trying to look at it from an management perspective. I know they see alot of CV's but how do they go about choosing the chosen few for each interview.
I'm asking this in a positive way not a negative so please don't get me wrong.
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Hey all, just tuning in...
Does anyone know how many are being interviewed??
Is there any substance behind this ANZ freeze rumour??
And finally, what would a new FO start on in the beech. I heard there has just been a pay incr....just curious aye!
any takers??
ciao , Fbn
Does anyone know how many are being interviewed??
Is there any substance behind this ANZ freeze rumour??
And finally, what would a new FO start on in the beech. I heard there has just been a pay incr....just curious aye!
any takers??
ciao , Fbn
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I've done 20hrs sim time on a Beech200, didn't even count as anything to Eagle. I looked at the 1900 cockpit poster on the wall, it just looked like the B200 with some polish.
You may say, so what, but the Eagle 1900 rating is 24 hrs sim time with no actual. (hair pull, hair pull, hair pull)
Anyone else substantiate the less than 200 multi rumour?
Yes, ANZ, WILL be recruiting
You may say, so what, but the Eagle 1900 rating is 24 hrs sim time with no actual. (hair pull, hair pull, hair pull)
Anyone else substantiate the less than 200 multi rumour?
Yes, ANZ, WILL be recruiting
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DeltaT,
I hope your not pinning your hopes on employment with Eagle based on 20 sim hours for a King Air!!!
With that theory in mind I'm surprised that Qant-arse has not hired me with my 15hrs sim time on the B747.
And yes, I have heard the <200hrs Twin time as well. Some blokey with 80 multi but high TT.
S2K
I hope your not pinning your hopes on employment with Eagle based on 20 sim hours for a King Air!!!
With that theory in mind I'm surprised that Qant-arse has not hired me with my 15hrs sim time on the B747.
And yes, I have heard the <200hrs Twin time as well. Some blokey with 80 multi but high TT.
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when you've had experience on something as close a -type- as that, you'd think it would kinda be of interest wouldn't you?!
I know what you are saying and sympathise but how does 15hrs sim time on the 747 compare to the time required to be type rated on the 747?
did it involve crew emergencies, line training and the like?
but, no, I am not naive enough to base it all on that, I have many other good points too!!
I know what you are saying and sympathise but how does 15hrs sim time on the 747 compare to the time required to be type rated on the 747?
did it involve crew emergencies, line training and the like?
but, no, I am not naive enough to base it all on that, I have many other good points too!!
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Albatross you knob, when did you get the idea that Eagle can't find suitable applicants? They will have no trouble finding people with far more than their minimums. There has been a lack of movement over the last 2 years so there are alot of people around with far more than Eagle minimums. As for your statement about half that if you're a girl, please, name one female who has gotten into Eagle with any less than any of the guys? Don't bother straining your tiny brain, because the answer is none. Your other statement, cadets, is hardly worth commenting on, but since you bought it up, Eagle never has and never will have a cadetship. One reason is insurance, the other is NZ has a robust GA scene, so why would they? Get your facts straight before you post again, and if you can't make a worthwhile contribution then p!$$ off.
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Have all you wanna-be's ever thought that it may not be how many hrs you've got, but how you come across at the interview and an excess of Testosterone possibly ain't what they're looking for.
Maybe that's why the girls get in?
Maybe that's why the girls get in?
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Eurocap; I don't have an ego problem - or at least, nothing more than any other pilot!
Albatross; don't disagree with your thoughts on being a S/O making coffee for umpteen dozen years - and I can name a few people who think they have this job and think they are god and enjoy telling everyone "I'm an International Airline Pilot"
Some of us have been lucky enough to miss out that step in our career (and I'm not saying either way if I'm included in that lucky few), but what I am saying is that none of us should think that we are immune from redundanies and have 100% job security, no matter where we work.
I actually agree with Sepsoff; maybe it's not the total hours that you have, but more the attitude you portray in the actual interview. Maybe they are hiring more females because they don't come across so stuck up and egotistical - and you can't argue that there are many pilots around like this.....
Back on the topic; the pilots who have been sitting on Air NZ 'yes' letters from last year have been brought in for another wee chat to see if they still like the look of their eyebrows for hiring in the early new year..... Cathay are also taking quite a few for interviews out of the regionals which will leave some huge gaps as well.......Looks like there will be movement throughout multiple levels in the country; about damn time!
Albatross; don't disagree with your thoughts on being a S/O making coffee for umpteen dozen years - and I can name a few people who think they have this job and think they are god and enjoy telling everyone "I'm an International Airline Pilot"
Some of us have been lucky enough to miss out that step in our career (and I'm not saying either way if I'm included in that lucky few), but what I am saying is that none of us should think that we are immune from redundanies and have 100% job security, no matter where we work.
I actually agree with Sepsoff; maybe it's not the total hours that you have, but more the attitude you portray in the actual interview. Maybe they are hiring more females because they don't come across so stuck up and egotistical - and you can't argue that there are many pilots around like this.....
Back on the topic; the pilots who have been sitting on Air NZ 'yes' letters from last year have been brought in for another wee chat to see if they still like the look of their eyebrows for hiring in the early new year..... Cathay are also taking quite a few for interviews out of the regionals which will leave some huge gaps as well.......Looks like there will be movement throughout multiple levels in the country; about damn time!
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It is ridiculous though isn't it. You interview a person a year or so previous and they jump through all the hoops to your satisfaction. Then you turn around and say wait a year for a start date and we will interview you again to see if we still like you. What about having a system like any normal airline and giving you a job after you are successfully interviewed for a job. And the thing is plenty would crawl over broken glass for an Air NZ job so why does the company play such pathetic games. If it had competition would the boot be on the other foot. To an outsider that process looks a bit f**ked up. And don't get me started about Mt Cook, you pass the interview and they say they'll call about a job, slots come up so they interview again and give subsequent applicants jobs instead.
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Eurocap; Don't ask me! I haven't figured it out yet either!!! That's why I included the 'rolleye smilie' after it and was agreeing with Albotross about the actual functions of being a S/O for a dozen or so years. I personally find it all a bit pathetic. A pilots a pilot; don't you agree? What I was emphasising is that everyone takes a different path in their career and thats all well and good. What we all shouldn't be doing is thinking that one airline is either better or more secure than the other....
I suppose you could liken it to bus drivers.... those who drive the big flash coaches probably think they are better than those who drive the inner city commuters around in those old dungers......
I agree again with Albotross; how many damn hoops do we as pilots have to jump through and how could we possibly have changed in twelve months so dramatically that all of a sudden they don't like us any more? Me thinkith management playing games....
I understand from the last few people who got into Mt Cook that it's all about who bottom you kiss, not how many hours you have anyway! Lovely!
I suppose you could liken it to bus drivers.... those who drive the big flash coaches probably think they are better than those who drive the inner city commuters around in those old dungers......
I agree again with Albotross; how many damn hoops do we as pilots have to jump through and how could we possibly have changed in twelve months so dramatically that all of a sudden they don't like us any more? Me thinkith management playing games....
I understand from the last few people who got into Mt Cook that it's all about who bottom you kiss, not how many hours you have anyway! Lovely!
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Congratulations on a well presented answer to a loaded question.
I agree 100% with you in relation to my previous question.
I would have to disagree with your last comments in regards to being acceptable to Mount Cook. I do believe that anybody who shows a keen interest in any company prior to being interviewed stands a better chance than those who apply when they hear that jobs are forthcoming.
Its called "Showing a keen interest" and it is also allowing those that have a say in who is being employed, a more informed look at the prospective candidate. The number of hours that a person has does not matter, as long as they have more than the minimum, but attitude does.
I hope you do well in whatever you attempt.
Rgds
I agree 100% with you in relation to my previous question.
I would have to disagree with your last comments in regards to being acceptable to Mount Cook. I do believe that anybody who shows a keen interest in any company prior to being interviewed stands a better chance than those who apply when they hear that jobs are forthcoming.
Its called "Showing a keen interest" and it is also allowing those that have a say in who is being employed, a more informed look at the prospective candidate. The number of hours that a person has does not matter, as long as they have more than the minimum, but attitude does.
I hope you do well in whatever you attempt.
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Yes, I agree with your comments about attitude and meeting minimum hour requirements. What I have a problem with are pilots who use their fathers or close family friends to get into an airline, rather than their own personality merits or those who quite blatently 'suck up'. I know for a fact that one of the last pilots to be taken on by Mt Cook was one of these and although a average to below average pilot, got the job in front of many others who have been showing an interest in Mt Cook for many years now in hope of a job and are perfect candidates for the airline just because this person took the hiring-firing guy out for drinks and sent him xmas cards?!
Do you think that's fairplay?
On the otherhand, I do believe in karma - what goes around, comes around.....
Do you think that's fairplay?
On the otherhand, I do believe in karma - what goes around, comes around.....
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Hog,
An interesting comment.
Did you apply for a job with Mount Cook?
Bear in mind that if what you say is true, that individual will show those dubious qualities during his/her training and if they don't meet the standards after approaching the end of their course they will find that the job is no longer there.
Mount Cook Airline has been known to chop course members in the past because of a lack of ability.
Also bear in mind that applicants try to sell themselves as the best when they are being interviewed and I suppose anything goes if you are after a job.
An interesting comment.
Did you apply for a job with Mount Cook?
Bear in mind that if what you say is true, that individual will show those dubious qualities during his/her training and if they don't meet the standards after approaching the end of their course they will find that the job is no longer there.
Mount Cook Airline has been known to chop course members in the past because of a lack of ability.
Also bear in mind that applicants try to sell themselves as the best when they are being interviewed and I suppose anything goes if you are after a job.