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CT7; don't kid yourself too much - Air Nelson has hired a few people with minimal clues and needed to be chopped before finishing their training..... I can think of a few that came as a big surprise when they were hired in the first place.
I think it's a bit of an ego problem if anyone thinks that one airline is better than the other when in reality, they both only fly turbo-props and without the parent company, both would cease to exist. From what I understand from those in the know, the only one that could survive on their own is the one based in CH!
Other point that could be made is that the track record of Air NS and industrial action isn't exactly in tip-top shape. Although Eagle may be working to rule, how many times in the past few years have Air NS pilots threatened industrial action or the likes?!
The Saab may have an autopilot and a hostie, but it's still only a turbo-prop and in the spirit of the big picture; once you have a couple of thousand hours on either, what difference is there, really?
In the long run; both jobs do the same thing; work you hard and give you a bit of drinking money! Either job can get you to where you want to go and both jobs could be gone tomorrow!
I think it's a bit of an ego problem if anyone thinks that one airline is better than the other when in reality, they both only fly turbo-props and without the parent company, both would cease to exist. From what I understand from those in the know, the only one that could survive on their own is the one based in CH!
Other point that could be made is that the track record of Air NS and industrial action isn't exactly in tip-top shape. Although Eagle may be working to rule, how many times in the past few years have Air NS pilots threatened industrial action or the likes?!
The Saab may have an autopilot and a hostie, but it's still only a turbo-prop and in the spirit of the big picture; once you have a couple of thousand hours on either, what difference is there, really?
In the long run; both jobs do the same thing; work you hard and give you a bit of drinking money! Either job can get you to where you want to go and both jobs could be gone tomorrow!
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Really Max Rate? I hope not. I can fondly remember sitting at the hold point in NPE in a C152 cooking my nuts off waiting for the Saab to land. All other movements at the airport took a backseat when the mighty 340 arrived. Man if you guys weren't the coolest in the coolest aeroplane, and I'd get told as much, and often. And a hostie too, to bring in a hot coffee. And Efis too (didn't know what it was but it sounded cool). I couldn't imagine life being any better. 
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Albatross: Obviously you don't have alot of ambition if your quite happy with a Saab coming in and out of small town NZ! I wonder if the alias you are writing under is indicative of your personality (fat, dumb and happy!).......
Don't put yourself on some sort of psydo-pedistal; sitting in your saab is no better or no worse than sitting in a metro, beech or jetstream - with the pay almost equal with someone who has just finished university and starting a career in technology or almost any other field, I wouldn't be too proud of the fact that you have to work 24-7 to earn your crust!
Possibly you should take up knitting to fill in those mealbreaks.... sounds like you don't have alot else to do (apart from sit in the crewroom looking at that piece of tin you call perfection
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Possibly you should have both hands above the desk when you think or write about your career! From the other reply's on this topic, it sounds like your've been on this track before..... surprise, surprise......
Don't put yourself on some sort of psydo-pedistal; sitting in your saab is no better or no worse than sitting in a metro, beech or jetstream - with the pay almost equal with someone who has just finished university and starting a career in technology or almost any other field, I wouldn't be too proud of the fact that you have to work 24-7 to earn your crust!
Possibly you should take up knitting to fill in those mealbreaks.... sounds like you don't have alot else to do (apart from sit in the crewroom looking at that piece of tin you call perfection
).Possibly you should have both hands above the desk when you think or write about your career! From the other reply's on this topic, it sounds like your've been on this track before..... surprise, surprise......
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Shafted Groundhog, that's all a bit harsh. Nothing wrong with small town NZ, I was merely aluding to the fact that the 340 looksd really good while you're in GA - it's the flashed thing to turn up in my neighbourhood. I am sure when CT7 first did his conversion he had only good things to say. And I still haven't managed to get a job flying it yet.
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I am always amazed at how quickly a post digresses.
Back to the topic, I have heard that they might be interviewing again before the end of the year as Air NZ is in the process of getting their own list for 40 slots together as we speak. (Thats 40 positions so the number interviewed will be more)
Can any light be shed before the topic of conversation end up with the favorite methods to hem a skirt.
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Back to the topic, I have heard that they might be interviewing again before the end of the year as Air NZ is in the process of getting their own list for 40 slots together as we speak. (Thats 40 positions so the number interviewed will be more)
Can any light be shed before the topic of conversation end up with the favorite methods to hem a skirt.
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cyco, it continues to amaze me as well.
The sim ride is simply so Eagle doesn't spend $20K sending a new hire to Toronto and finding out that they can't fly S and L. Previously it's only cost them a couple of hrs tooling around in a Bandit or a Metro doing a type rating.
I assume those of you that bag the Saab overtake them in the cruise, or are just jelous?
P.S. Cyco,
Mum says the best way is to borrow her overlocker.
The sim ride is simply so Eagle doesn't spend $20K sending a new hire to Toronto and finding out that they can't fly S and L. Previously it's only cost them a couple of hrs tooling around in a Bandit or a Metro doing a type rating.
I assume those of you that bag the Saab overtake them in the cruise, or are just jelous?
P.S. Cyco,
Mum says the best way is to borrow her overlocker.
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Someone told me that Eagle are interviewing within the next few weeks but I'm sure that it's all over by now..... I know Air NZ will be interviewing in Nov and then again in Jan so I presume that'll leave a few slots free in both Eagle and Air NS (for those who want to leave their precious turboprops).
As for passing a saab in the cruise; trust me, it's not hard to overtake them soon after take off - especially for those who follow company procedures! It looks like they really are knitting up the front there; or maybe it's the hostie and that all-comforting rub they give when passing over a cup of coffee! A perk of the job, ah boys?
Albotross; it may be a bit harsh, but nothing like a bit of reality to bring one down to earth when one is spouting doo-doo's! If you haven't managed to get a job on one yet; dont panic, your not missing much (after the first 500 hours, it just becomes as boring as a C172 anyway!
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Cyco; get your FO to do it in the cruise; gives them something to do!
As for passing a saab in the cruise; trust me, it's not hard to overtake them soon after take off - especially for those who follow company procedures! It looks like they really are knitting up the front there; or maybe it's the hostie and that all-comforting rub they give when passing over a cup of coffee! A perk of the job, ah boys?
Albotross; it may be a bit harsh, but nothing like a bit of reality to bring one down to earth when one is spouting doo-doo's! If you haven't managed to get a job on one yet; dont panic, your not missing much (after the first 500 hours, it just becomes as boring as a C172 anyway!
)Cyco; get your FO to do it in the cruise; gives them something to do!
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Thanks Shafted G. After dropping out of school in the fourth form I thought maybe I was too stupid to apply for Air Nelson. But I s'pose there is no harm in trying and my highest was a D+ in Home Ec. so maybe they will let me throw an omlette together during the interview. Got a fly of the CSU 172 coming up soon so I'm already moving on to flasher planes.
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I have heard about the SIM ride which seems to be mainly checking your ability to use a RMI/ADF, but as for the rest of the interview process, how is that made up?
Any info as to the length of time, at which do you jump in the AST, what proportion of technical/personal questions and how long after you normally would hear back.
Thanks in advance
Any info as to the length of time, at which do you jump in the AST, what proportion of technical/personal questions and how long after you normally would hear back.
Thanks in advance
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Interview usually just under an hour and a bit. Personal questions? Tell us a little about yourself, how do you handle stress, why do you want to fly for Eagle? the usual.
Techie questions, Rate of Descent on the G/S at 210 kts, dist around an arc, pressure altitude, working out TAS from IAS, bla bla bla
They then give you a plate of an airport and ask questions about it.
Read a NOTAM and decypher it for them.
The sim ride. Well two trains of thought here. Go and practice or don't. Even if you have very current and can fly IFR it wouldn't hurt to have a go and get used to the feel of the sim.
Techie questions, Rate of Descent on the G/S at 210 kts, dist around an arc, pressure altitude, working out TAS from IAS, bla bla bla
They then give you a plate of an airport and ask questions about it.
Read a NOTAM and decypher it for them.
The sim ride. Well two trains of thought here. Go and practice or don't. Even if you have very current and can fly IFR it wouldn't hurt to have a go and get used to the feel of the sim.
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Well, It's not often I throw a stick at a hornets nest and stand back, but that was fun
Yep the SAAB is a turboprop, and is slow in the climb but it does have its comforts. Overtaken in the cruise, well the J41s do so easily, the rest not so well. Descent, all the same. (& I'm talking T/P here not jets)
Bored, sometimes, especially now uncle Koru is going to stop the Herald.
Home almost every night. Mostly good duties. What more would you want for a lifestyle option.
Sounds maybe like someone might, sort-of be a bit jealous? Maybe not? Who knows, or maybe, even cares.
Pay, yup, certainly not the best, but hey, we're in NZ!!!
The B1900, nice bit of kit and the only option really, just a shame the Mgnt couldn't see to help the workers and get an A/P!
Air NZ interviews, DEC and two so far for JAN03, 35-40 drivers.
Mt Cook interviews done recently with 2 or 3 fom us and not all temps either...
Hopefully the next ones we take on will be perm, not this temp c#@p that we have at the moment.
Ciao!
Yep the SAAB is a turboprop, and is slow in the climb but it does have its comforts. Overtaken in the cruise, well the J41s do so easily, the rest not so well. Descent, all the same. (& I'm talking T/P here not jets)
Bored, sometimes, especially now uncle Koru is going to stop the Herald.
Home almost every night. Mostly good duties. What more would you want for a lifestyle option.
Sounds maybe like someone might, sort-of be a bit jealous? Maybe not? Who knows, or maybe, even cares.
Pay, yup, certainly not the best, but hey, we're in NZ!!!
The B1900, nice bit of kit and the only option really, just a shame the Mgnt couldn't see to help the workers and get an A/P!
Air NZ interviews, DEC and two so far for JAN03, 35-40 drivers.
Mt Cook interviews done recently with 2 or 3 fom us and not all temps either...
Hopefully the next ones we take on will be perm, not this temp c#@p that we have at the moment.
Ciao!
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CT7: You done good, my friend! Certainly made for an interesting thread, that's for sure.
As I've said above, if you want the lifestyle and are satisfied with only flying regional and in turbo-props, then either Air NS or Eagle will do the trick for most..... a step up to the ATR's in CHCH but apart from that, a turboprops a turboprop, no matter which way you look at it! I do agree about the A/P in the 1900 though; what a major stuffup on their mngmt's behalf.... mind you, not the first stuffup the Air NZ Groups mgnmt has made, ah? Those temp contracts at Air NS were a shocker - and a complete explotation of a group of people still reelling from the T/Pacific experience!
As for being jealous about turbo-props or even Air NS; please.... some of us enjoyed the experience of moving on! Everyone's different and allowed to take their career in whichever avenue they see as best..... To think that one part of the ANZ group is better than any of the others is (in my opinion) just a little bit naive. We're all in this boat together, and if the collapse of T/Pacific has taught us anything, it should be a bit of humility and a sence of limited job satisfaction. I dont think any of us should be too relaxed about our long term job prospects....
As I've said above, if you want the lifestyle and are satisfied with only flying regional and in turbo-props, then either Air NS or Eagle will do the trick for most..... a step up to the ATR's in CHCH but apart from that, a turboprops a turboprop, no matter which way you look at it! I do agree about the A/P in the 1900 though; what a major stuffup on their mngmt's behalf.... mind you, not the first stuffup the Air NZ Groups mgnmt has made, ah? Those temp contracts at Air NS were a shocker - and a complete explotation of a group of people still reelling from the T/Pacific experience!
As for being jealous about turbo-props or even Air NS; please....
some of us enjoyed the experience of moving on! Everyone's different and allowed to take their career in whichever avenue they see as best..... To think that one part of the ANZ group is better than any of the others is (in my opinion) just a little bit naive. We're all in this boat together, and if the collapse of T/Pacific has taught us anything, it should be a bit of humility and a sence of limited job satisfaction. I dont think any of us should be too relaxed about our long term job prospects....
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Shafted G. you could also have mentioned the enjoyment of plenty of sectors beating around the traps in regional flying as opposed to 26 million years as an s/o with Air NZ making coffee and watching your general aviation skills go down the toilet.
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I was told that they are NOT recruiting, but they are getting a pool together for when they next require.
Only contract positions as Air NZ has placed a cap on the full-time positions, however 6months to a year has found most guys on the collective agreement.
I know a few guys who were in the "pool" for the last 18 months and have only just been called up. The last 18 months however we will all agree have been non-standard as far as the industry goes ( I hope ).
And yes I have also heard that they are calling again as of the last few days
Only contract positions as Air NZ has placed a cap on the full-time positions, however 6months to a year has found most guys on the collective agreement.
I know a few guys who were in the "pool" for the last 18 months and have only just been called up. The last 18 months however we will all agree have been non-standard as far as the industry goes ( I hope ).
And yes I have also heard that they are calling again as of the last few days
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Not sure how many have been called up but interviews are early Nov.
I have been told that of the four that were accepted for a ground course recently, two have been given start dates before the end of the year. Can anyone confirm?
If this is the case, then start dates should be rather forthcoming for those accepted in this round.
I have been told that of the four that were accepted for a ground course recently, two have been given start dates before the end of the year. Can anyone confirm?
If this is the case, then start dates should be rather forthcoming for those accepted in this round.