Senate vote against Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport Committee inquiry
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Senate vote against Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport Committee inquiry
Tuesday, 6 February 2024
Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport References Committee
That the following matters be referred to the Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport References Committee for inquiry and report by 8 October 2024:
(a) The impact, regulation and mitigation of aircraft noise on residents and business in our communities, including the impacts of aircraft noise on amenity, physical and mental wellbeing and everyday life of affected communities; and
(b) Australia's airspace management, operation and regulation to ensure the safety, efficiency and sustainability of the aviation industry, with particular reference to:
(i) the adequacy and effectiveness of Australia's airspace management operation and regulation in meeting the needs of the aviators and communities,
(ii) skills shortages, job vacancies and access to skills training in the aviation sector,
(iii) aircraft noise management practices and their effectiveness in mitigating impacts on communities,
(iv) factors contributing to on-time performance issues across Australian airspace,
(v) the safety and reliability of airspace management across rural and regional Australia, and
(vi) any other related matters".
The Senate divided.
AYES 29
NOES 35
Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport References Committee
That the following matters be referred to the Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport References Committee for inquiry and report by 8 October 2024:
(a) The impact, regulation and mitigation of aircraft noise on residents and business in our communities, including the impacts of aircraft noise on amenity, physical and mental wellbeing and everyday life of affected communities; and
(b) Australia's airspace management, operation and regulation to ensure the safety, efficiency and sustainability of the aviation industry, with particular reference to:
(i) the adequacy and effectiveness of Australia's airspace management operation and regulation in meeting the needs of the aviators and communities,
(ii) skills shortages, job vacancies and access to skills training in the aviation sector,
(iii) aircraft noise management practices and their effectiveness in mitigating impacts on communities,
(iv) factors contributing to on-time performance issues across Australian airspace,
(v) the safety and reliability of airspace management across rural and regional Australia, and
(vi) any other related matters".
The Senate divided.
AYES 29
Antic, A. - SA, Liberal
Askew, W. - TAS, Liberal
Babet, R. – VIC, United Australia Party
Brockman, W. E. – WA, Liberal
Bragg, A. J. – NSW, Liberal
Canavan, M. J. – QLD, Nationals
Cash, M. C. – WA, Liberal
Chandler, C. – TAS, Liberal
Colbeck, R. M. – TAS, Liberal
Davey, P. M. – NSW, Nationals
Fawcett, D. J. – SA, Liberals
Hanson, P. L. – QLD, Pauline Hanson’s One Nation
Henderson, S. M. - VIC, Liberal
Hughes, H. A. – NSW, Liberal
Hume, J. – VIC, Liberal
Kovacic, M. – NSW, Liberal
Liddle, K. J. – SA, Liberal
McGrath, J. – QLD, Liberal National Party of Queensland
McKenzie, B. – VIC, Nationals
McLachlan, A. L. – SA, Liberal
Nampijinpa Price, J. S. – NT, Country Liberal Party
Rennick, G. - QLD, Liberal National Party of Queensland
Reynolds, L. K. - WA, Liberal
Roberts, M. I. - QLD, Pauline Hanson’s One Nation
Ruston, A. – SA, Liberal
Scarr, P. M. – QLD, Liberal
Sharma, D. N. – NSW, Liberal
Smith, D. A. – WA, Liberal
Sullivan, M, A. – WA, Liberal
Askew, W. - TAS, Liberal
Babet, R. – VIC, United Australia Party
Brockman, W. E. – WA, Liberal
Bragg, A. J. – NSW, Liberal
Canavan, M. J. – QLD, Nationals
Cash, M. C. – WA, Liberal
Chandler, C. – TAS, Liberal
Colbeck, R. M. – TAS, Liberal
Davey, P. M. – NSW, Nationals
Fawcett, D. J. – SA, Liberals
Hanson, P. L. – QLD, Pauline Hanson’s One Nation
Henderson, S. M. - VIC, Liberal
Hughes, H. A. – NSW, Liberal
Hume, J. – VIC, Liberal
Kovacic, M. – NSW, Liberal
Liddle, K. J. – SA, Liberal
McGrath, J. – QLD, Liberal National Party of Queensland
McKenzie, B. – VIC, Nationals
McLachlan, A. L. – SA, Liberal
Nampijinpa Price, J. S. – NT, Country Liberal Party
Rennick, G. - QLD, Liberal National Party of Queensland
Reynolds, L. K. - WA, Liberal
Roberts, M. I. - QLD, Pauline Hanson’s One Nation
Ruston, A. – SA, Liberal
Scarr, P. M. – QLD, Liberal
Sharma, D. N. – NSW, Liberal
Smith, D. A. – WA, Liberal
Sullivan, M, A. – WA, Liberal
Allman-Payne, P. J. – QLD, Greens
Ayres, T. – NSW, ALP
Brown, C. L. – TAS, ALP
Chisholm, A. – QLD, ALP
Ciccone, R. – VIC, ALP
Cox, D. – WA, Greens
Farrell, D. E. – SA, ALP
Faruqi, M. – NSW, Greens
Ghosh, V. – WA, ALP
Green, N. L. – QLD, ALP
Grogan, K. – SA, ALP
Hanson-Young, S. C. – SA, Greens
Lines, S. – WA, ALP
McAllister, J. R. – NSW, ALP
McCarthy, M. – NT, ALP
McKim, N. J. – TAS, Greens
O'Neill, D. M. – NSW, ALP
Payman, F. – WA, ALP
Pocock, B. – SA, Greens
Pocock, D. W. – ACT, Independent
Polley, H.- TAS, ALP
Pratt, L. C. – WA, ALP
Rice, J. E. – VIC. Greens
Sheldon, A. V. – NSW, ALP
Shoebridge, D. – NSW, Greens
Smith, M. F. – SA, ALP
Steele-John, J. A. – WA, Greens
Sterle, G. – WA, ALP
Stewart, J. N. A. – VIC, ALP
Thorpe, L. A. – VIC, Independent
Tyrrell, T. M. – TAS, Jacqui Lambie Network
Urquhart, A. E. – TAS, ALP
Walsh, J. C. – VIC, ALP
Watt, M. P. – QLD, ALP
Whish-Wilson, P. S. – TAS, Greens
Ayres, T. – NSW, ALP
Brown, C. L. – TAS, ALP
Chisholm, A. – QLD, ALP
Ciccone, R. – VIC, ALP
Cox, D. – WA, Greens
Farrell, D. E. – SA, ALP
Faruqi, M. – NSW, Greens
Ghosh, V. – WA, ALP
Green, N. L. – QLD, ALP
Grogan, K. – SA, ALP
Hanson-Young, S. C. – SA, Greens
Lines, S. – WA, ALP
McAllister, J. R. – NSW, ALP
McCarthy, M. – NT, ALP
McKim, N. J. – TAS, Greens
O'Neill, D. M. – NSW, ALP
Payman, F. – WA, ALP
Pocock, B. – SA, Greens
Pocock, D. W. – ACT, Independent
Polley, H.- TAS, ALP
Pratt, L. C. – WA, ALP
Rice, J. E. – VIC. Greens
Sheldon, A. V. – NSW, ALP
Shoebridge, D. – NSW, Greens
Smith, M. F. – SA, ALP
Steele-John, J. A. – WA, Greens
Sterle, G. – WA, ALP
Stewart, J. N. A. – VIC, ALP
Thorpe, L. A. – VIC, Independent
Tyrrell, T. M. – TAS, Jacqui Lambie Network
Urquhart, A. E. – TAS, ALP
Walsh, J. C. – VIC, ALP
Watt, M. P. – QLD, ALP
Whish-Wilson, P. S. – TAS, Greens
In short, defeated along party lines.
Weird thing is that the Greens do a lot of whinging about aircraft noise. Their bloc of votes could have changed the outcome. I suspect politics had something to do with this...
I've no clue as to what your post means. Shrug emoji:
The original motion, put by Senator Rice, was
Mademoiselle Sports Rorts then sought to amend the original motion,
McKenzie's proposed amendment, which would have had the effect of tacking a review of Airservices Australia onto the original noise review, was defeated. Rice's original motion on aircraft noise was agreed to. No prizes for guessing why Labor don't want the Committee getting stuck into AsA.
That the following matter be referred to the Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport References Committee for inquiry and report by 8 October 2024:
The impact and mitigation of aircraft noise on residents and business in capital cities and regional towns, with particular reference to:
(a) the effect of aircraft noise on amenity, physical and mental wellbeing and everyday life of residents;
(b) the effect of aircraft noise on small business;
(c) any proposals for the mitigation and limitation of aircraft noise, including flight curfews, changes to flight paths and alternatives to air travel;
(d) any barriers to the mitigation and limitation of aircraft noise; and
(e) any other related matters.
The impact and mitigation of aircraft noise on residents and business in capital cities and regional towns, with particular reference to:
(a) the effect of aircraft noise on amenity, physical and mental wellbeing and everyday life of residents;
(b) the effect of aircraft noise on small business;
(c) any proposals for the mitigation and limitation of aircraft noise, including flight curfews, changes to flight paths and alternatives to air travel;
(d) any barriers to the mitigation and limitation of aircraft noise; and
(e) any other related matters.
Omit all words after "That", substitute
"the following matters be referred to the Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport References Committee for inquiry and report by 8 October 2024:
(a) The impact, regulation and mitigation of aircraft noise on residents and business in our communities, including the impacts of aircraft noise on amenity, physical and mental wellbeing and everyday life of affected communities; and
(b) Australia's airspace management, operation and regulation to ensure the safety, efficiency and sustainability of the aviation industry, with particular reference to:
(i) the adequacy and effectiveness of Australia's airspace management operation and regulation in meeting the needs of the aviators and communities,
(ii) skills shortages, job vacancies and access to skills training in the aviation sector,
(iii) aircraft noise management practices and their effectiveness in mitigating impacts on communities,
(iv) factors contributing to on-time performance issues across Australian airspace,
(v) the safety and reliability of airspace management across rural and regional Australia, and
(vi) any other related matters".
"the following matters be referred to the Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport References Committee for inquiry and report by 8 October 2024:
(a) The impact, regulation and mitigation of aircraft noise on residents and business in our communities, including the impacts of aircraft noise on amenity, physical and mental wellbeing and everyday life of affected communities; and
(b) Australia's airspace management, operation and regulation to ensure the safety, efficiency and sustainability of the aviation industry, with particular reference to:
(i) the adequacy and effectiveness of Australia's airspace management operation and regulation in meeting the needs of the aviators and communities,
(ii) skills shortages, job vacancies and access to skills training in the aviation sector,
(iii) aircraft noise management practices and their effectiveness in mitigating impacts on communities,
(iv) factors contributing to on-time performance issues across Australian airspace,
(v) the safety and reliability of airspace management across rural and regional Australia, and
(vi) any other related matters".
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You seem to be entirely missing the point here (is that what "missy" relates to?).
The Greens put the original motion forward. As you can see from your post that started this thread, Senator Rice is an Australian Greens senator. Rice's motion dealt specifically with one of their pet topics - aircraft noise. McKenzie then attempted to have a review of AsA added via an amendment. That amendment - the topic of your thread-starting post - was defeated. The Greens' original motion for the sub-committee to review aircraft noise was agreed to unamended.
The Greens put the original motion forward. As you can see from your post that started this thread, Senator Rice is an Australian Greens senator. Rice's motion dealt specifically with one of their pet topics - aircraft noise. McKenzie then attempted to have a review of AsA added via an amendment. That amendment - the topic of your thread-starting post - was defeated. The Greens' original motion for the sub-committee to review aircraft noise was agreed to unamended.
Thanks Mick. Now I understand. I should have read the entire Hansard.
Had the Coalition been in government and Labor tried the same tactic, the outcome would have been the same.
Had the Coalition been in government and Labor tried the same tactic, the outcome would have been the same.
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Thread Starter
You seem to be entirely missing the point here (is that what "missy" relates to?).
The Greens put the original motion forward. As you can see from your post that started this thread, Senator Rice is an Australian Greens senator. Rice's motion dealt specifically with one of their pet topics - aircraft noise. McKenzie then attempted to have a review of AsA added via an amendment. That amendment - the topic of your thread-starting post - was defeated. The Greens' original motion for the sub-committee to review aircraft noise was agreed to unamended.
The Greens put the original motion forward. As you can see from your post that started this thread, Senator Rice is an Australian Greens senator. Rice's motion dealt specifically with one of their pet topics - aircraft noise. McKenzie then attempted to have a review of AsA added via an amendment. That amendment - the topic of your thread-starting post - was defeated. The Greens' original motion for the sub-committee to review aircraft noise was agreed to unamended.
Missy,
Some of us have watched “democracy” operate in Senate Estimates for many years…
Some of us didn’t come down in the last shower…
I’d be impressed if there was any evidence our Senators actually thought……
A Royal Commission out of Senate Estimates today leads me to think you been indulging psychedelics again?
I will hold further comment until after noting the corrupt nuances today…
What a coincidence that the final episode of Nemesis is on tonight!!
Some of us have watched “democracy” operate in Senate Estimates for many years…
Some of us didn’t come down in the last shower…
I’d be impressed if there was any evidence our Senators actually thought……
A Royal Commission out of Senate Estimates today leads me to think you been indulging psychedelics again?
I will hold further comment until after noting the corrupt nuances today…
What a coincidence that the final episode of Nemesis is on tonight!!
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I would argue that a far reaching enquiry into ASA and CASA is far more warranted on the basis that a serious failure due to ASA mismanagement will have far greater consequences than noise and, to a degree, may improve noise outcomes as well.
A Greens spokesperson implied that part e of the bill "any other related matters" was enough to investigate the failings within ASA.
I would argue that a far reaching enquiry into ASA and CASA is far more warranted on the basis that a serious failure due to ASA mismanagement will have far greater consequences than noise and, to a degree, may improve noise outcomes as well.
I would argue that a far reaching enquiry into ASA and CASA is far more warranted on the basis that a serious failure due to ASA mismanagement will have far greater consequences than noise and, to a degree, may improve noise outcomes as well.
Be interesting to see the sincerity of each committee member and party this afternoon…
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I presume the “Make by day” Senator has declared the personal interest?
My expectations are zero (as should be the expectation of the Greens/Noise Lobby).
As mentioned elsewhere, Estimates is little more than a multi-faceted protection racket, where everyone is implicated over time.
As mentioned elsewhere, Estimates is little more than a multi-faceted protection racket, where everyone is implicated over time.
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Be watching this comedy for a long time...ie AsA at Senate Estimates today...
As Con the Fruiterer would say as another PPUNEr recalls "Just Bewdiful"
Was expecting some random clay shoot...
Wasn't expecting a precision HIMARS assault from the wonderful Senator McKenzie...
Even Senator Sterle started to "smell" the wind change....finally...
AsA Board apparently to front Senate Estimates...only taken them twenty years....
Oh dear what a Herculean task to cleanse the Airservices stable, let alone CASA and ATSB...
Schadenfreude, Schadenfreude, Schadenfreude,...Bless me father for I have sinned, but God it felt so good!
What, a pantomime .........................
As Con the Fruiterer would say as another PPUNEr recalls "Just Bewdiful"
Was expecting some random clay shoot...
Wasn't expecting a precision HIMARS assault from the wonderful Senator McKenzie...
Even Senator Sterle started to "smell" the wind change....finally...
AsA Board apparently to front Senate Estimates...only taken them twenty years....
Oh dear what a Herculean task to cleanse the Airservices stable, let alone CASA and ATSB...
Schadenfreude, Schadenfreude, Schadenfreude,...Bless me father for I have sinned, but God it felt so good!
What, a pantomime .........................