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So the person they want in this role has “
Basically they want someone who has sat in a management role for a minimum of ten years doing plenty of ‘blue sky thinking’ , engaging in ‘idea showers’ and identifying ‘pain points’.
If they really want a cultural shift they should identify a Check or Training Captain from one of the other subsidiaries who is well respected by both Management and line pilots and is known for their sensible balanced approach to all things flying, and pay them their normal salary plus $100k to do a 12 month fixed term contract whereby they get their own desk in Flt Ops and jump seat wherever hey want when they want and attend all Network Exec management meetings. They could easily identify all personnel who should be on the bus, and those who should be booted off the bus. When a culture goes this far south it won’t self correct without some restructuring. There are plenty of Trainers who fit this bill and many have previously held Flt Ops management deputy roles and are comfortable in an HQ environment. By appointing yet another master of theory who has never done four early returns or a double BOC, you are simply kicking the can along the road.
- 10 years of cultural program design and delivery experience
- Experience in strategy setting, program, and project management.
If they really want a cultural shift they should identify a Check or Training Captain from one of the other subsidiaries who is well respected by both Management and line pilots and is known for their sensible balanced approach to all things flying, and pay them their normal salary plus $100k to do a 12 month fixed term contract whereby they get their own desk in Flt Ops and jump seat wherever hey want when they want and attend all Network Exec management meetings. They could easily identify all personnel who should be on the bus, and those who should be booted off the bus. When a culture goes this far south it won’t self correct without some restructuring. There are plenty of Trainers who fit this bill and many have previously held Flt Ops management deputy roles and are comfortable in an HQ environment. By appointing yet another master of theory who has never done four early returns or a double BOC, you are simply kicking the can along the road.
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Working Closely with GMFO
This is an old QF strategy for managers not delivering. The correct title should be Mentor to GMFO. The contract length is the time they give the GMFO to find another job. EBs dead baby!

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From: Australia
I just read the advert.
The more things change in the Qantas group, the more they stay the same.
There has been zero change in direction since Alan left the company.
The same contempt for staff and passengers. The same nothing was our fault mentality. The same throwing millions at consultancy for zero results.
The predictability is mind-numbing, and suggests to me that VH and the board actually have zero clue what they’re doing.
Hundreds of millions in ghost flight fines pissed away through poor decision making, but rather than pay NAA pilots what they’re worth, they’ll drag it off to Fairwork.
Make no mistake about it - QF management will continue to massively boost their own bonuses, blame everyone else for their errors and attempt to destroy terms and conditions for every employee group except for themselves.
To expect anything else in the future is lunacy.
Hopefully they get a monstrous fine and compensation package over the ground handlers which triggers a complete wipeout of the board and executive.
The more things change in the Qantas group, the more they stay the same.
There has been zero change in direction since Alan left the company.
The same contempt for staff and passengers. The same nothing was our fault mentality. The same throwing millions at consultancy for zero results.
The predictability is mind-numbing, and suggests to me that VH and the board actually have zero clue what they’re doing.
Hundreds of millions in ghost flight fines pissed away through poor decision making, but rather than pay NAA pilots what they’re worth, they’ll drag it off to Fairwork.
Make no mistake about it - QF management will continue to massively boost their own bonuses, blame everyone else for their errors and attempt to destroy terms and conditions for every employee group except for themselves.
To expect anything else in the future is lunacy.
Hopefully they get a monstrous fine and compensation package over the ground handlers which triggers a complete wipeout of the board and executive.

Joined: Mar 2002
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From: Moved beyond
Senior Culture Program Manager
Jaysus, what parallel universe do these people inhabit? Will this new manager be responsible for changing the management culture that constantly sh!ts on employees? That'd be a good place to start...
Jaysus, what parallel universe do these people inhabit? Will this new manager be responsible for changing the management culture that constantly sh!ts on employees? That'd be a good place to start...
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From: Oz
The role is just wasting time as anyone with half a brain would simply advise Management…
‘Errrrrr I think these peeps need a pay rise and decent deal’
They would then be fired. This is the type of people you are dealing with here which is why nothing will change.
‘Errrrrr I think these peeps need a pay rise and decent deal’
They would then be fired. This is the type of people you are dealing with here which is why nothing will change.
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Dangling carrot
Apparently our Network friends are going to get a token $18k per year retention bonus as communicated by the turbo prop boofhead. What a slap in the face! That’s $9k after tax or $375 per pay. Far cry from EK where Captains pocketed $100k tax free! I’m guessing this will have no bearing, nor should it, on peps decision to head to the Sandpit. Don’t be fooled guys, they are merely paying for your taxi home after a good rogering.
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From: NSW
Does Emirates take direct entry captains at the moment?
good to hear mainline are leaving too. Show parasitic management some reality.
once my kids are sorted I’ll be looking too.
hey Emirates, how about you setup a Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne basing? That will be hilarious.
seniority system has destroyed supply/demand dynamic and the parasites feed on it.
we need one union or at least ones that collaborate and share resources.
good to hear mainline are leaving too. Show parasitic management some reality.
once my kids are sorted I’ll be looking too.
hey Emirates, how about you setup a Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne basing? That will be hilarious.
seniority system has destroyed supply/demand dynamic and the parasites feed on it.
we need one union or at least ones that collaborate and share resources.

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From: Moved beyond
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From: Australia
Yeah??? I wonder how many pilots and flight attendants need professional psychological help, when they are always severely stressed out wondering how they can pay their bills or ever afford a basic standard of living. The only one here who needs help is you and the likes of you. When the day finally comes the likes of you will be quartered!
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From: Australia
Yeah for sure …..voice your opinion. More power to you. But when you start indicating that those who don’t toe your moral high ground line deserve to be lead down a dark alley is probably bordering on mentally unwell.






