Joyce ‘retires’ early 👍
The senate wouldn't have the spine to take action against the little coward.
What is delightful is watching the continued questioning of his character, even if it is by the putrid rag of a newspaper named. The thing that will hurt him most is his loss of hero status amongst his fellow white collar (criminal) comrades.
What is delightful is watching the continued questioning of his character, even if it is by the putrid rag of a newspaper named. The thing that will hurt him most is his loss of hero status amongst his fellow white collar (criminal) comrades.
Labor/Greens have voted against questioning AJ and now he is free to return with no questions to answer regarding the senate enquiry. Our country is so messed up at the top allowing all these CEOs to run rampart doing what they want.
Now VA is turning a profit I’d expect the same outrage against them for what they did to their mum and dad investors ripping them off, ah we are in Australia tho free to do what you like.
Now VA is turning a profit I’d expect the same outrage against them for what they did to their mum and dad investors ripping them off, ah we are in Australia tho free to do what you like.
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Labor/Greens have voted against questioning AJ and now he is free to return with no questions to answer regarding the senate enquiry. Our country is so messed up at the top allowing all these CEOs to run rampart doing what they want.
Now VA is turning a profit I’d expect the same outrage against them for what they did to their mum and dad investors ripping them off, ah we are in Australia tho free to do what you like.
Now VA is turning a profit I’d expect the same outrage against them for what they did to their mum and dad investors ripping them off, ah we are in Australia tho free to do what you like.
Virgin holds $420.2 million of flight credits (about 9 percent of revenue) that are currently due to expire by 31 December 2023. A fair chunk of that is money punters had paid for fares back in early 2020. No extension announced, and ... (crickets). Where are the accusations that Bain are in the process of stealing nearly half a billion from Australian travellers?
When Madam Sports Rorts and her happy band of inquisitors had Jayne in for a chat, the most directed questioning seemed to be about what she knew about Jetstar.
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For an indication of how even-handed both politics and the media are just look how the issue of flight credits has been handled. Qantas had, in aggregate, $570 million in flight credits (roughly 3.5 percent of revenue) that were due to expire on 31 December this year. We know the level of opprobrium that drew from various quarters, and rightly so. The outcome was, in part, an extension of the expiry period.
Virgin holds $420.2 million of flight credits (about 9 percent of revenue) that are currently due to expire by 31 December 2023. The fair chunk of that is money punters has paid for fares back in early 2020. No extension announced, and ... (crickets). Where are the accusations that Bain are in the process of stealing nearly half a billion from Australian travellers?
When Madam Sports Rorts and her happy band of inquisitors had Jayne in for a chat, the most directed questioning seemed to be about what she knew about Jetstar.
Virgin holds $420.2 million of flight credits (about 9 percent of revenue) that are currently due to expire by 31 December 2023. The fair chunk of that is money punters has paid for fares back in early 2020. No extension announced, and ... (crickets). Where are the accusations that Bain are in the process of stealing nearly half a billion from Australian travellers?
When Madam Sports Rorts and her happy band of inquisitors had Jayne in for a chat, the most directed questioning seemed to be about what she knew about Jetstar.
I’m still waiting on why former National MP John Sharpe’s company was given millions by his political allies in power at the time to maintain regional services, then straight away starts up a 737 operation and eventually reduces regional services, blaming QF for ‘poaching’. Or why CASA buried the audit report on the Rex owned Pel Air operation after the Norfolk Ditching, I don’t think we ever got an answer on that one.
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It's even more ironic at the moment with Qatar being the country that houses the leader of Hamas.
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I think Rex can’t keep or get enough pilots and the same applies for engineers, plus of course there is the predatory behaviour of the gorilla Qantas.
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I had heard the Qantas credits were extremely difficult to use, could only be used on full price fares and every obstruction that Qantas could put in your way was used to frustrate customers. I don't think all re-bookings could be done online? Don't know because I didn't hold any credits with them.
I did hold several Virgin credits, that were held in the money bank, can't remember if that's what it was called? Using them was easy, on any fair and could be 100% done online. From my perspective it couldn't have been easier and I didn't feel ripped off at any point.
I did hold several Virgin credits, that were held in the money bank, can't remember if that's what it was called? Using them was easy, on any fair and could be 100% done online. From my perspective it couldn't have been easier and I didn't feel ripped off at any point.
The senate wouldn't have the spine to take action against the little coward.
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I had heard the Qantas credits were extremely difficult to use, could only be used on full price fares and every obstruction that Qantas could put in your way was used to frustrate customers. I don't think all re-bookings could be done online? Don't know because I didn't hold any credits with them.
I did hold several Virgin credits, that were held in the money bank, can't remember if that's what it was called? Using them was easy, on any fair and could be 100% done online. From my perspective it couldn't have been easier and I didn't feel ripped off at any point.
I did hold several Virgin credits, that were held in the money bank, can't remember if that's what it was called? Using them was easy, on any fair and could be 100% done online. From my perspective it couldn't have been easier and I didn't feel ripped off at any point.
After going into administration, VA had $1.131 billion in collected fares for flights never flown that was converted into credits. Three years later they have a shade over 37 percent of those credits still on their books.
QF, on the other hand, had $2.031 billion in Unavailed Passenger Revenue on their books as at 30 June 2020, with just over 28 percent left unclaimed three years later.
In absolute dollars, and as a percentage of credits held, a far greater amount has been redeemed by QF punters than VA. That is, at the very least, interesting, if not instructive.
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I understand the issue with VA was large credits tied up from premium cabin flights from its 777 operation, and also its NZ operation which it no longer operates to.
I have read a few stories re people with $10-20k Virgin balances from cancelled Business Class flights from its 777 operation, they can only use this on Domestic or very few short haul International routes.
Probably worse for those in AKL/CHC/WLG who can only use the credit from ZQN. Virgin does not permit use on partner airlines.
I have read a few stories re people with $10-20k Virgin balances from cancelled Business Class flights from its 777 operation, they can only use this on Domestic or very few short haul International routes.
Probably worse for those in AKL/CHC/WLG who can only use the credit from ZQN. Virgin does not permit use on partner airlines.
Hansard script because he messed up, but that’s another issue.
So let me get this right. Mr Sheldon and Mrs White, two Labor Party Senators and two ex union officials who during the Senate hearings tore strips off Mr Joyce and co and now have voted to not bring him back to Oz to face questioning again. Seems a bit lame, obviously have to fall into place with Dear Leader Albo's orders. I thought Labor was tough on big business and a friend to the worker haha.
So let me get this right. Mr Sheldon and Mrs White, two Labor Party Senators and two ex union officials who during the Senate hearings tore strips off Mr Joyce and co and now have voted to not bring him back to Oz to face questioning again. Seems a bit lame, obviously have to fall into place with Dear Leader Albo's orders. I thought Labor was tough on big business and a friend to the worker haha.
I understand the issue with VA was large credits tied up from premium cabin flights from its 777 operation, and also its NZ operation which it no longer operates to.
I have read a few stories re people with $10-20k Virgin balances from cancelled Business Class flights from its 777 operation, they can only use this on Domestic or very few short haul International routes.
Probably worse for those in AKL/CHC/WLG who can only use the credit from ZQN. Virgin does not permit use on partner airlines.
I have read a few stories re people with $10-20k Virgin balances from cancelled Business Class flights from its 777 operation, they can only use this on Domestic or very few short haul International routes.
Probably worse for those in AKL/CHC/WLG who can only use the credit from ZQN. Virgin does not permit use on partner airlines.
Putting a "use it or lose it" expiry condition on money paid for a service/product that the business no longer provides sounds like theft, but with a few more steps than usual.
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One thing that can be said of Pocock, he handed back his Qantas Chairman's Lounge and Virgin Beyond Lounge memberships a couple of weeks ago. The Chair of the Sub-committee, Madam Sports Rorts, couldn't bring herself to do the same.
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Honourable move but given he is an ACT Senator, it’s unlikely he would have benefited from their privileges much in the first place.