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Old 12th Mar 2023, 09:49
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
If there is a problem with the door, ‘re-opening’ from the inside could or will end in tears!

Often Flight Attendants just don’t use sufficient force when arming the door. Disarming then re-arming firmly will generally fix the issue. If not, hand the problem to the engineers.

Not sure where ‘jiggling’ came from? New media buzz word.
Jiggling was probably made up by the Daily Mail, which has to be one of the most low-rate gossip rags out there, even worse than Murdoch (wait, is it owned by Murdoch??).
I think they made jiggling up. Love the queue of Qantas haters in the comments "just as well she didn't jiggle it in the air" demonstrating their utter lack of knowledge of aviation. Also love the "causing it to inflate all the way down to the ground" Well, yeh, that's the general idea.
We all know this has happened before, it won't be the last time. Back in the old days we used to open the 747 doors from the outside. For two good reasons. 1/ We can see if the Girt Bar had failed to disengage in which situation we would give the CC the thumbs down and call an Engineer. 2/ Even if the door is armed, when opened from the outside there is a mechanism that automatically disarms it (or should) but ONLY when opened from the outside.
It always used to amaze me how many carriers insisted on opening 747 doors from the inside at an aerobridge. Whenever in the vicinity, I'd wait at the end of the a/bridge. Not too trusting of some of the other airlines, like CAAC swinging the door open while engines still running and no stairs in position on arrival at a stand-off bay.
I believe KLM had this open from inside procedure and actually deployed a slide in an aerobridge at YSSY many years ago, seriously injuring at least one ground employee.
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Old 12th Mar 2023, 09:52
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Originally Posted by noclue
Surely it’s got a sticker on it armed/dis armed. Its and airbus after all, is it really harder than that?
Probably in French a la "Retard, Retard" LOL
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Old 12th Mar 2023, 17:29
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective
We all know this has happened before, it won't be the last time. Back in the old days we used to open the 747 doors from the outside. For two good reasons. 1/ We can see if the Girt Bar had failed to disengage in which situation we would give the CC the thumbs down and call an Engineer. 2/ Even if the door is armed, when opened from the outside there is a mechanism that automatically disarms it (or should) but ONLY when opened from the outside.
Same on the baby bus so reckon probably the same on the big bus!
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Old 13th Mar 2023, 11:43
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Originally Posted by Global Aviator
Same on the baby bus so reckon probably the same on the big bus!
Reminded me of an Australian operator who was about to return an A330-200 to the lessor. It was a flight to be conducted with a Flight Crew only.

It was to depart from the International terminal and here is an example of the nonsensical and counterproductive bureaucracy that gets created when people with no practical ability to understand the intent of rules and procedures make a minefield for everyone else.

The A330s were not operated internationally. No problem I said to the Captain, we'll get someone from international who has operated A320 doors and is 'signed off' to open the door when the aeroplane is on the aerobridge. Ohh, noooo, said the trainers and supervisors, those people are not 'signed off' on the A330. My reaction was that it's the same f-ing door, it's just bigger. Oh, no, we can't do that, because it's not on paper. This is basically akin to someone refusing to let a person open a cabin door on a 747-SP back in the day because they'd only been trained on the 747-200.

In the end when I explained it, the Captain said "Look, I'll go to the aerobridge and I'll open the f---king door!".

Glad to see logic prevails and even on Airbuses the old rules we followed with the bigger Boeings are still in place (I think the 737 was the only exception because it didn't have the disarm feature if opened from the outside.
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Old 14th Mar 2023, 06:07
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Originally Posted by KAPAC
Passengers kid opened plug type door emergency exit . Engineer we got did not have the approval for our airframes , however casa had an option that if a company person completed the correct and approved training course that person could re install a plug type emergency window exit . So I got a 1 min course by engineer , paperwork faxed , filled in signed and he watched me insert door back into window and off we went , all legal .
Why , do , you , punctuate , like this ?

Stop .
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