QF 380 popping slide in LA
Apparently a QF 380 popped a rear slide in LA not too long ago.
FAP showed disarmed, SO pulled the operating handle, there was a malfunction and the door remained armed. Anyone know any further Details/Pictures? |
I struggle to understand why the SO would have been opening a door, let alone the rear one. That just doesn’t happen.
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S/o operating Doors
Morno ,sometimes when the doors are armed before pushback we get a report on the flightdeck that one of the doors will not arm, we then dispatch one of the S/os from the flight deck to check the rearm procedure (disarm and then rearm) so it does happen. This sounds like one of these times
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Originally Posted by morno
(Post 11397848)
I struggle to understand why the SO would have been opening a door, let alone the rear one. That just doesn’t happen.
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Originally Posted by Tangosierra
(Post 11397860)
Morno ,sometimes when the doors are armed before pushback we get a report on the flightdeck that one of the doors will not arm, we then dispatch one of the S/os from the flight deck to check the rearm procedure (disarm and then rearm) so it does happen. This sounds like one of these times
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The correct procedure was clearly not followed here. It’s often a faulty sensor that causes this induction on the flight deck. The correct procedure is to disarm the door and re-arm to see if this solves the problem. Jiggling the handle of the door while in the armed mode, love to see where that’s written in the SOPs.
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Originally Posted by Bad Adventures
(Post 11398066)
The correct procedure is to disarm the door, re-open the door then close and re-arm to see if this solves the problem.
Often Flight Attendants just don’t use sufficient force when arming the door. Disarming then re-arming firmly will generally fix the issue. If not, hand the problem to the engineers. Not sure where ‘jiggling’ came from? New media buzz word. |
Whenever a door arming problem is encountered…
the correct Qantas procedure.. is not to send the SO to jiggle anything..:confused: It’s not to arm and then re arm or otherwise fiddle…:D it s return to the f#$&ing gate and get maintenance to fix the problem….:ugh::ugh: for the precise reason that door arming issues have occurred before and slides have been deployed as a result. It’s not rocket science:rolleyes: and is explicitly written in the manuals this way, for this exact reason. := |
Originally Posted by Occy
(Post 11398166)
the correct Qantas procedure..
is not to send the SO to jiggle anything..:confused: It’s not to arm and then re arm or otherwise fiddle…:D it s return to the f#$&ing gate and get maintenance to fix the problem….:ugh::ugh: |
Originally Posted by tdracer
(Post 11398433)
Since LAX is not a major Qantas base, who is contracted to do their maintenance there?
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The "jiggling" quote has probably come from an expert passenger via expert media, so maybe best not to read too much into the actual wording.
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Originally Posted by tdracer
(Post 11398433)
Since LAX is not a major Qantas base, who is contracted to do their maintenance there?
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Word is after the act of jiggling and subsequent activation of said slide,a yet to be named SO tossed his hat into a bunch of assisting pax,shrieked out an unprintable expletive and disappeared down the slide. Reports of a fresh faced young Aussie pilot applying for a job at Aeromexico have yet to be confirmed.
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Originally Posted by tdracer
(Post 11398433)
Since LAX is not a major Qantas base, who is contracted to do their maintenance there?
This of course brought significant criticism because they didn't use the Australian facility at Alice Springs despite being given billions in government money. |
Originally Posted by Tangosierra
(Post 11397860)
Morno ,sometimes when the doors are armed before pushback we get a report on the flightdeck that one of the doors will not arm, we then dispatch one of the S/os from the flight deck to check the rearm procedure (disarm and then rearm) so it does happen. This sounds like one of these times
Not sure about the jiggling... maybe refers to the motion of the bingo wings?? |
Originally Posted by Tangosierra
(Post 11397860)
Morno ,sometimes when the doors are armed before pushback we get a report on the flightdeck that one of the doors will not arm, we then dispatch one of the S/os from the flight deck to check the rearm procedure (disarm and then rearm) so it does happen. This sounds like one of these times
Who would you rather be responsible for checking a door is (dis) armed and not cocking it up? Someone who does it multiple times a week, or a pilot who hasn't done it since the last training session 9 months ago, and before that probably the training session 12 months prior again? |
Personally, on the rare occasions I did actually arm or disarm a door I was particularly careful precisely because it was something I hadn't done since I last did EP's.
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Surely it’s got a sticker on it armed/dis armed. Its and airbus after all, is it really harder than that?
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Yeah, well actually it is.......on various occasions the Airbus product has a mind of it's own. Come to think of it, so do all big 'ole jet airliners......one of the reasons we love 'em so much.
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