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LostontheLOC 8th Mar 2023 12:01

QF 380 popping slide in LA
 
Apparently a QF 380 popped a rear slide in LA not too long ago.

FAP showed disarmed, SO pulled the operating handle, there was a malfunction and the door remained armed.

Anyone know any further Details/Pictures?

morno 8th Mar 2023 19:42

I struggle to understand why the SO would have been opening a door, let alone the rear one. That just doesn’t happen.

Tangosierra 8th Mar 2023 20:24

S/o operating Doors
 
Morno ,sometimes when the doors are armed before pushback we get a report on the flightdeck that one of the doors will not arm, we then dispatch one of the S/os from the flight deck to check the rearm procedure (disarm and then rearm) so it does happen. This sounds like one of these times

smiling monkey 8th Mar 2023 22:48

The Daily Mail has a photo.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ree-hours.html

LostontheLOC 8th Mar 2023 23:00


Originally Posted by morno (Post 11397848)
I struggle to understand why the SO would have been opening a door, let alone the rear one. That just doesn’t happen.

Sounds like it did happen.

morno 8th Mar 2023 23:29


Originally Posted by Tangosierra (Post 11397860)
Morno ,sometimes when the doors are armed before pushback we get a report on the flightdeck that one of the doors will not arm, we then dispatch one of the S/os from the flight deck to check the rearm procedure (disarm and then rearm) so it does happen. This sounds like one of these times

Makes sense, didn’t think about that. How did it progress to opening though, unless there was a complete failure in the door somehow.

Bad Adventures 9th Mar 2023 07:01

The correct procedure was clearly not followed here. It’s often a faulty sensor that causes this induction on the flight deck. The correct procedure is to disarm the door and re-arm to see if this solves the problem. Jiggling the handle of the door while in the armed mode, love to see where that’s written in the SOPs.

Capt Fathom 9th Mar 2023 09:36


Originally Posted by Bad Adventures (Post 11398066)
The correct procedure is to disarm the door, re-open the door then close and re-arm to see if this solves the problem.

If there is a problem with the door, ‘re-opening’ from the inside could or will end in tears!

Often Flight Attendants just don’t use sufficient force when arming the door. Disarming then re-arming firmly will generally fix the issue. If not, hand the problem to the engineers.

Not sure where ‘jiggling’ came from? New media buzz word.


Occy 9th Mar 2023 09:51

Whenever a door arming problem is encountered…

the correct Qantas procedure..

is not to send the SO to jiggle anything..:confused:
It’s not to arm and then re arm or otherwise fiddle…:D
it s return to the f#$&ing gate and get maintenance to fix the problem….:ugh::ugh:


for the precise reason that door arming issues have occurred before and slides have been deployed as a result. It’s not rocket science:rolleyes: and is explicitly written in the manuals this way, for this exact reason. :=

tdracer 9th Mar 2023 16:01


Originally Posted by Occy (Post 11398166)
the correct Qantas procedure..

is not to send the SO to jiggle anything..:confused:
It’s not to arm and then re arm or otherwise fiddle…:D
it s return to the f#$&ing gate and get maintenance to fix the problem….:ugh::ugh:

Since LAX is not a major Qantas base, who is contracted to do their maintenance there?

morno 9th Mar 2023 19:25


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11398433)
Since LAX is not a major Qantas base, who is contracted to do their maintenance there?

Qantas actually have their own maintenance in LAX, complete with hangar.

Look Mum - no hands 9th Mar 2023 19:52

The "jiggling" quote has probably come from an expert passenger via expert media, so maybe best not to read too much into the actual wording.

blubak 9th Mar 2023 20:08


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11398433)
Since LAX is not a major Qantas base, who is contracted to do their maintenance there?

Oh really,Lax is 1 of the biggest maintenance bases that QF operate,lots of $$$ poured into that facility pre covid.

PPRuNeUser01531 9th Mar 2023 20:21

Word is after the act of jiggling and subsequent activation of said slide,a yet to be named SO tossed his hat into a bunch of assisting pax,shrieked out an unprintable expletive and disappeared down the slide. Reports of a fresh faced young Aussie pilot applying for a job at Aeromexico have yet to be confirmed.

C441 9th Mar 2023 20:36


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11398433)
Since LAX is not a major Qantas base, who is contracted to do their maintenance there?

One significant consideration in 'parking' the 380 in Victorville was that the aircraft could be brought back to service at the relatively nearby Qantas operated maintenance centre between the runways at the western end of LAX.

This of course brought significant criticism because they didn't use the Australian facility at Alice Springs despite being given billions in government money.

Eclan 10th Mar 2023 00:24


Originally Posted by Tangosierra (Post 11397860)
Morno ,sometimes when the doors are armed before pushback we get a report on the flightdeck that one of the doors will not arm, we then dispatch one of the S/os from the flight deck to check the rearm procedure (disarm and then rearm) so it does happen. This sounds like one of these times

Really? They've got one job to do (apart from slinging sandwiches) - I'm sure the old luvs appreciate having junior turn up to check they did it right.

Not sure about the jiggling... maybe refers to the motion of the bingo wings??

compressor stall 10th Mar 2023 01:37


Originally Posted by Tangosierra (Post 11397860)
Morno ,sometimes when the doors are armed before pushback we get a report on the flightdeck that one of the doors will not arm, we then dispatch one of the S/os from the flight deck to check the rearm procedure (disarm and then rearm) so it does happen. This sounds like one of these times

Interesting risk management approach.

Who would you rather be responsible for checking a door is (dis) armed and not cocking it up? Someone who does it multiple times a week, or a pilot who hasn't done it since the last training session 9 months ago, and before that probably the training session 12 months prior again?

C441 10th Mar 2023 02:44

Personally, on the rare occasions I did actually arm or disarm a door I was particularly careful precisely because it was something I hadn't done since I last did EP's.

noclue 10th Mar 2023 12:01

Surely it’s got a sticker on it armed/dis armed. Its and airbus after all, is it really harder than that?

PPRuNeUser01531 11th Mar 2023 20:59

Yeah, well actually it is.......on various occasions the Airbus product has a mind of it's own. Come to think of it, so do all big 'ole jet airliners......one of the reasons we love 'em so much.


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