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Old 8th Jul 2022, 00:30
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To be honest, if you don’t like Qantas then leave, it is as simple as that.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 00:33
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Originally Posted by blubak
They obviously thought that the part relating to actually providing a flight to a paid for destination didnt apply to their world(3rd) class airline.
Probably thought the curfew in NZ wouldnt apply to the flight they sent there a day or 2 ago either even though there was no way it was ever going to get there before curfew.
The fools running this circus have no idea & as Steve says,they dont need any help in ruining holidays for many many people.
It was the Captains decision, he thought that a quick get away out of Sydney with favourable routing etc May see them there on time or a few minutes over…. Probably says more about him than the airline, when has anyone every got a ‘quick’ getaway out of Sydney,
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 00:45
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To be honest, if you don’t like Qantas then leave, it is as simple as that.
Its not that easy anymore. QF has purchased nearly every Australian domestic Airline. If you are wanting to work for an Australian company that pays reasonably where are you going to go?
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 04:35
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It was the Captains decision, he thought that a quick get away out of Sydney with favourable routing etc May see them there on time or a few minutes over…. Probably says more about him than the airline, when has anyone every got a quick getaway out of Sydney,
If you are going to have a crack at the Captain, at least get your facts correct.

The flight was airborne in Sydney at 11:15pm Wellington time meaning they had 45mins to cover the 1200nm to Wellington to beat the curfew or a full hour and three-quarters after the latest time to beat curfew. The Qantas IOC in all of their wisdom, chose to let the flight depart in the hope of getting a curfew dispensation. It didn't happen and they diverted to CHC, which was the IOC's preferred option to remaining in Sydney.

So no, the Captain did not depart hoping for a quick getaway and favourable routing, so other than accepting the near certainty of a diversion and the IOC's preference for them to depart anyway, it doesn't say more about him or her than the company at all.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 07:09
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Originally Posted by C441
If you are going to have a crack at the Captain, at least get your facts correct.

The flight was airborne in Sydney at 11:15pm Wellington time meaning they had 45mins to cover the 1200nm to Wellington to beat the curfew or a full hour and three-quarters after the latest time to beat curfew. The Qantas IOC in all of their wisdom, chose to let the flight depart in the hope of getting a curfew dispensation. It didn't happen and they diverted to CHC, which was the IOC's preferred option to remaining in Sydney.

So no, the Captain did not depart hoping for a quick getaway and favourable routing, so other than accepting the near certainty of a diversion and the IOC's preference for them to depart anyway, it doesn't say more about him or her than the company at all.
I saw this many times in my career. One of the best ones I saw was during an east coast low, JQ Ops sent an aircraft from both MEL and SYD to Hamilton Island even though Ops were shown photographs of 1/3 of the runway under water. They also sent some aircraft to OOL at the same time, again they did it even though QF and the then VB were canceling flights to OOL due to weather. All aircraft ended up in BNE which already had no parking space left for the 320’s. It was a complete debacle in BNE with disrupted pax, no hotels, an absolute clusterf#ck, and aircraft sitting on taxiways with nowhere to go. A stupid decision made by Ops. This sort of scenario was regularly played out across the network, including sending aircraft to SYD knowing they would not beat the curfew.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 07:20
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Originally Posted by C441
If you are going to have a crack at the Captain, at least get your facts correct.

The flight was airborne in Sydney at 11:15pm Wellington time meaning they had 45mins to cover the 1200nm to Wellington to beat the curfew or a full hour and three-quarters after the latest time to beat curfew. The Qantas IOC in all of their wisdom, chose to let the flight depart in the hope of getting a curfew dispensation. It didn't happen and they diverted to CHC, which was the IOC's preferred option to remaining in Sydney.

So no, the Captain did not depart hoping for a quick getaway and favourable routing, so other than accepting the near certainty of a diversion and the IOC's preference for them to depart anyway, it doesn't say more about him or her than the company at all.
Hope every passenger on board that flight gets told how they were f....d over by this pack of incompetent fools.
U can just imagine how the captain felt knowing how this was going to end. Of course the people making these decisions are safely tucked up in bed whilst the chaos they have caused is no longer their problem or concern.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 08:54
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Originally Posted by blubak
Of course the people making these decisions are safely tucked up in bed whilst the chaos they have caused is no longer their problem or concern.
So very true. It goes for all the CEO’s of these airlines, sitting on their asses sipping expensive wine at top shelf restaurants while their crew and ‘customers’ get fu#ked around no end through the middle of the night.
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Old 9th Jul 2022, 01:14
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So very true. It goes for all the CEO’s of these airlines, sitting on their asses sipping expensive wine at top shelf restaurants while their crew and ‘customers’ get fu#ked around no end through the middle of the night.
Or Holidaying in Europe and Wimbledon whilst the front end staff are already burnt out, crew fatigue is at historical levels plus sickness. Then the COO sends out an email saying its all because of Covid. No its not. You cut EVERYTHING to the bone, let experienced staff go and now reap what you sowed. The ONLY reason the travelling public are not abandoning a particular airline in Oz at the moment, is because they are equally crap.

Pity.
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Old 9th Jul 2022, 03:29
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Or Holidaying in Europe and Wimbledon whilst the front end staff are already burnt out, crew fatigue is at historical levels plus sickness. Then the COO sends out an email saying its all because of Covid. No its not. You cut EVERYTHING to the bone, let experienced staff go and now reap what you sowed. The ONLY reason the travelling public are not abandoning a particular airline in Oz at the moment, is because they are equally crap.

Pity.
What else would you expect from a mob like this.
They always have an excuse or someone to blame,its never their fault,they live in another world & everybody is wrong except them.
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Old 9th Jul 2022, 07:05
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Originally Posted by C441
If you are going to have a crack at the Captain, at least get your facts correct.

The flight was airborne in Sydney at 11:15pm Wellington time meaning they had 45mins to cover the 1200nm to Wellington to beat the curfew or a full hour and three-quarters after the latest time to beat curfew. The Qantas IOC in all of their wisdom, chose to let the flight depart in the hope of getting a curfew dispensation. It didn't happen and they diverted to CHC, which was the IOC's preferred option to remaining in Sydney.

So no, the Captain did not depart hoping for a quick getaway and favourable routing, so other than accepting the near certainty of a diversion and the IOC's preference for them to depart anyway, it doesn't say more about him or her than the company at all.
Apologies, I was talking about the Jetstar Aircraft that also diverted to Christchurch not the Qantas one. JQ203 on 3/7/22, departed Sydney 21:12. The Media talked about Qantas, Jetstar kept the crew and passengers on the aircraft and then flew back to AKL.
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Old 9th Jul 2022, 09:48
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No you weren’t, you made it quite clear it was the Qantas Captain
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Old 9th Jul 2022, 10:04
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No you weren’t, you made it quite clear it was the Qantas Captain
Really, where did I say Qantas Captain?
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Old 9th Jul 2022, 10:20
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When you initially claimed that it was the Captain, not the company. Now in your Jetstar story you are clearly blaming the company.
Additionally, who gave you licence to post “like it or leave” edicts? I personally would rather dislike it, as anyone would, and agitate to get the problems fixed. This was a very good airline when I joined-I'd be gratified to witness it being so again.
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Old 9th Jul 2022, 11:46
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No, I am saying the Jetstar Captain made the decision to go, not the company. But hey you believe what ever you like. And I stand by my statement, if you hate the company you work for so much why would you work for them? 'Agitate to make it better', are you about to dust off the red ties and pa cards again?

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Old 11th Jul 2022, 21:20
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The Australian reporting both AJ and Jayne are on holidays in Europe at the moment.

Meanwhile on time performance for both 40% last week. Virgin cancelling 1 in 8.
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Old 11th Jul 2022, 23:14
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The Australian reporting both AJ and Jayne are on holidays in Europe at the moment.

Meanwhile on time performance for both 40% last week. Virgin cancelling 1 in 8.
That’s odd. Everything normally runs more smoothly when management disappear…
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Old 12th Jul 2022, 03:55
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That’s odd. Everything normally runs more smoothly when management disappear…
I’m sure Vanessa and Olivia have it all under control at the Roo. I hope the girls are playing nicely with Alan’s toy set 😊
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Old 12th Jul 2022, 20:12
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I’m sure Vanessa and Olivia have it all under control at the Roo. I hope the girls are playing nicely with Alan’s toy set 😊
Hopefully they can send the cleaners over to Mosman !!!

https://www.news.com.au/national/van...723feb99a686a8
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Old 12th Jul 2022, 21:49
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Hopefully they can send the cleaners over to Mosman !!!

https://www.news.com.au/national/van...723feb99a686a8
Doesnt look like they have much under control at all except the usual excuses & refusal to listen to what is actually going on with their 3rd world attempt at customer service.
They should read some of the letters available at traveller.com.au from people who are getting shafted every day due to the incompetence from these so called airline executives.
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Old 12th Jul 2022, 22:06
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Originally Posted by blubak
Doesnt look like they have much under control at all except the usual excuses & refusal to listen to what is actually going on with their 3rd world attempt at customer service.
They should read some of the letters available at traveller.com.au from people who are getting shafted every day due to the incompetence from these so called airline executives.
Would it be correct to say that Q international does not offer WiFi internet? I only ask in the context of customer service, or more accurately product offering, it is difficult to believe that on an 16+ hour flight, business travellers cannot even send an email.

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