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JetLagedBird 25th Jun 2022 12:11

Qantas will provide a one-time bonus of $5,000 to each of its 19,000 employees
 
The bonus, according to chief executive Alan Joyce, recognized the “sacrifices our people have made” throughout the pandemic, such as being laid off without pay for extended periods of time.

Bootstrap1 25th Jun 2022 14:40

It is all smoke and mirrors. As usual it is tied to an EBA being signed off within 9 months. We in engineering are yet to receive the $2000 from 2018 as that was tied to an EBA as well. That EBA expired in 2019. So here we are 3 1/2 years later still no EBA, not even an official EBA offer.
So if Alan thinks he can dangle a $5K carrot and think all of the toxicity of the last few years will be forgotten, he is well and truly mistaken.
Even Gareth Evans is leaving, he must know he was never going to get the top job. Morale at QF has always been pretty low, now it is a toxic waste dump.


HE CAN Go and Get Far away

blubak 25th Jun 2022 22:28


Originally Posted by Bootstrap1 (Post 11251553)
It is all smoke and mirrors. As usual it is tied to an EBA being signed off within 9 months. We in engineering are yet to receive the $2000 from 2018 as that was tied to an EBA as well. That EBA expired in 2019. So here we are 3 1/2 years later still no EBA, not even an official EBA offer.
So if Alan thinks he can dangle a $5K carrot and think all of the toxicity of the last few years will be forgotten, he is well and truly mistaken.
Even Gareth Evans is leaving, he must know he was never going to get the top job. Morale at QF has always been pretty low, now it is a toxic waste dump.


HE CAN Go and Get Far away

Its a cheap out for him too as they definitely dont have to pay any allowances on a bonus(bribe) & pretty sure no super paid on it either which if it was a wage rise of some %age,the allowances would go up by the same % & super would definitely be paid.
This is just another mean spirited attack on the workforce to try & make himself look good whilst lining his & his back slapping hangers on with more bonuses & share options.

Ollie Onion 25th Jun 2022 22:50

And it specifically relates to Australian Based employees which is lucky as those who are based off shore had the same level of support over the 24 month stand downs right?

RENURPP 25th Jun 2022 23:08


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 11251700)
Its a cheap out for him too as they definitely dont have to pay any allowances on a bonus(bribe) & pretty sure no super paid on it either which if it was a wage rise of some %age,the allowances would go up by the same % & super would definitely be paid.
This is just another mean spirited attack on the workforce to try & make himself look good whilst lining his & his back slapping hangers on with more bonuses & share options.

There is super, it is deducted from the $5000 if it’s paid. In effect if it’s paid it will be $4400 - tax as and if applicable

blubak 27th Jun 2022 07:50


Originally Posted by unknownpilot (Post 11251787)
Don’t forget that it’s 1000 Qantas shares and not necessarily $5k which he keeps spraying to the media. If the price drops like it already has, then it’s worth a lot less. Some will say “what if the price goes higher?” But we all know that won’t happen at the current rate

Arent they 2 separate bribes?? But of course they both have the'subject to' conditions attached which basically say You better behave & do exactly as we tell you.

Troo believer 27th Jun 2022 08:11

https://michaelwest.com.au/alan-joyces-5000-gift-really-a-5000-grift-whats-the-scam-qantas/







https://michaelwest.com.au/rooing-the-day-qantas-passengers-and-crew-taken-for-a-ride-by-the-board/

gordonfvckingramsay 28th Jun 2022 00:17

If the trigger for receiving these ‘bonuses’ is for no harm to come to QF, how are QF defining ‘harm’?

A drop in share price? Bad press due to staff (shortages)? Etc…Who chooses which form of harm and by whom?


aseriesofleftturns 28th Jun 2022 01:15

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PoppaJo 28th Jun 2022 04:47

Good. Tear it up then.

itsnotthatbloodyhard 28th Jun 2022 06:13

What ‘harm’ could possibly compare to the spectacular self-inflicted damage we’ve been seeing for the last few months?

Paragraph377 6th Jul 2022 06:59

With the ALAEA talking about taking union action, I found this tidbit amusing in the Financial Review. In regards to engaging in union stop work activities and overtime bans during school holidays, Steve was asked the following;

Reporter: Asked whether he expected this to create further disruptions for travellers as travel’s rocky recovery forces flight delays, cancellations and other issues, he said: “We won’t need to target holiday periods, Qantas seem to be doing a good enough job of ruining people’s holiday’s without our assistance.”

Thats pure gold, and very true! The flying roo is taking an absolute beating and there is no sign of any letup.

blubak 6th Jul 2022 08:42


Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 11257014)
With the ALAEA talking about taking union action, I found this tidbit amusing in the Financial Review. In regards to engaging in union stop work activities and overtime bans during school holidays, Steve was asked the following;

Reporter: Asked whether he expected this to create further disruptions for travellers as travel’s rocky recovery forces flight delays, cancellations and other issues, he said: “We won’t need to target holiday periods, Qantas seem to be doing a good enough job of ruining people’s holiday’s without our assistance.”

Thats pure gold, and very true! The flying roo is taking an absolute beating and there is no sign of any letup.

They obviously thought that the part relating to actually providing a flight to a paid for destination didnt apply to their world(3rd) class airline.
Probably thought the curfew in NZ wouldnt apply to the flight they sent there a day or 2 ago either even though there was no way it was ever going to get there before curfew.
The fools running this circus have no idea & as Steve says,they dont need any help in ruining holidays for many many people.

ampclamp 6th Jul 2022 10:11

I saw on Seek that they are advertising for AMEs and LAMEs.

Sure, they had to off load labour when covid shut the industry down here, but when they let everyone go that put their hand up without any care for the loss of licence cover and experience, losing thousands of years of engineering experience in one hit, it's no wonder they are struggling. I heard there were about 6 AOGs in Melbourne on an over night not long ago.

Forced onto 8 hour shifts, refusing to negotiate an EBA for what must be 3 years since expiry, pay freezes etc has not exactly increased morale and incentive to go the extra yard.

aussieflyboy 6th Jul 2022 10:12


Originally Posted by RENURPP (Post 11251716)
There is super, it is deducted from the $5000 if it’s paid. In effect if it’s paid it will be $4400 - tax as and if applicable

$5,000 minus (45% Tax + 10.5% Super + 10% HECS)…. I’m not a tax professional but is that like $1725 in hand?

Ngineer 6th Jul 2022 10:17


Originally Posted by ampclamp (Post 11257089)
I saw on Seek that they are advertising for AMEs and LAMEs.

Sure, they had to off load labour when covid shut the industry down here, but when they let everyone go that put their hand up without any care for the loss of licence cover and experience, losing thousands of years of engineering experience in one hit, it's no wonder they are struggling. I heard there were about 6 AOGs in Melbourne on an over night not long ago.

Forced onto 8 hour shifts, refusing to negotiate an EBA for what must be 3 years since expiry, pay freezes etc has not exactly increased morale and incentive to go the extra yard.

Keep beating a dog and it will eventually turn on you.

RENURPP 7th Jul 2022 03:51


Originally Posted by aussieflyboy (Post 11257090)
$5,000 minus (45% Tax + 10.5% Super + 10% HECS)…. I’m not a tax professional but is that like $1725 in hand?

that's what I was getting at 5000 - super- tax, I'm not sure many pilots will be up for HECS

aussieflyboy 7th Jul 2022 06:49


Originally Posted by RENURPP (Post 11257521)
that's what I was getting at 5000 - super- tax, I'm not sure many pilots will be up for HECS

If they just sat around doing nothing for the past 2 years then maybe no HECS but many started doing uni courses as a backup for the next time something happens.

RENURPP 7th Jul 2022 19:59


Originally Posted by aussieflyboy (Post 11257557)
If they just sat around doing nothing for the past 2 years then maybe no HECS but many started doing uni courses as a backup for the next time something happens.

it’s a debt, a choice, others have also sorts of debts house/car ……. Loans.
whilst the $5000 is a joke adding your personal debt on the list of deductions is a non sense.

aussieflyboy 7th Jul 2022 22:54


Originally Posted by RENURPP (Post 11257919)
it’s a debt, a choice, others have also sorts of debts house/car ……. Loans.
whilst the $5000 is a joke adding your personal debt on the list of deductions is a non sense.

Yes but a personal debt doesn’t come out of a bonus payment whereas a HECS debt does.


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