Now it is baggage issues for 'Sunrise'
Secondly, the baggage can be carried on another aeroplane, even if the passenger isn't on board, provided that the passenger was not aware of the the fact beforehand. Once they decided not to carry the baggage on the flight, all those pieces of baggage officially became 'mishandled' baggage and thus there is provision to carry on an alternative flight, provided that it has been designated as mishandled load.
It does raise the question though, if a passenger fails to board QF9 and their baggage has already been designated as mishandled and re-accommodated on another flight, should said baggage be offloaded from that flight?? (On the basis that their failure to board is for notorious reasons and thus any 'device' might 'go off' on the flight being used to repatriate the 'mishandled' baggage).
The whole idea of passenger and baggage match is that the passenger offloads, the bag doesn't fly.
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Sounds like Darwin is perfectly on par with the usual rubbish you can expect from the likes of Willy & Townsville.
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The main runway in Darwin has been under emergency repairs on and off for the last bloody 10 months. It’s an obsolete bloody disgrace and often gets notamed with little or no notice. Does anybody know why the same repairs just keep going on and on and on.
id imagine it’s nearly impossible to get a 787 all the way to London with 2500m at 30 odd degreees ?
id imagine it’s nearly impossible to get a 787 all the way to London with 2500m at 30 odd degreees ?
Well at least they had a great flight - until they were told about their bags.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/euro...03-p5ai9y.html
The recently retired 65-year-old said they specifically paid more for their tickets to fly the non-stop Australia-to-UK flight to avoid baggage troubles.
“We chose to fly Qantas because we thought if we fly direct to England from Australia that will minimise our chances of getting COVID and reduce the risk of our luggage being lost during a stopover in Asia,” he said. “COVID was the number one reason, baggage problems was number two.”
But they said they were only informed about the delay about 20 minutes before landing when aircrew asked them to fill in some forms identifying their luggage.
“We chose to fly Qantas because we thought if we fly direct to England from Australia that will minimise our chances of getting COVID and reduce the risk of our luggage being lost during a stopover in Asia,” he said. “COVID was the number one reason, baggage problems was number two.”
But they said they were only informed about the delay about 20 minutes before landing when aircrew asked them to fill in some forms identifying their luggage.
For your benefit, the knock-em downs are short sharp thunderstorms that occur when the Wet (monsoon) season has finished. So called because tall (6 foot) grasses grow in the wet, then the cooler dry season winds hit (usually in early April) then the grass quickly dries and dies. Then a week later is normally a couple of days of storms that knock the grass over. Hence the name, and it's the short Bangkerring season - one of six distinct seasons in the Top End and the best time to visit.
The relevance of that is that this year it was at the very end of April which is later than normal, along with the humidity and heat which might have lead to less payload along with the runway works.
Both.
Sorry we can't bring you all to London today with your luggage.
You can decide to stay onboard, we will try to bring your luggage but no guarantee
You can decide to stay onground, if needed, with a refund or options to fly later.
(If you absolutely need some small thing from your luggage you can take it)
This is a one time decision.
If too many people decide to stay onground, available spaces (pax+luggage) will be given in economical order (highest paying passengers first)
Sorry we can't bring you all to London today with your luggage.
You can decide to stay onboard, we will try to bring your luggage but no guarantee
You can decide to stay onground, if needed, with a refund or options to fly later.
(If you absolutely need some small thing from your luggage you can take it)
This is a one time decision.
If too many people decide to stay onground, available spaces (pax+luggage) will be given in economical order (highest paying passengers first)
This used to happen occasionally on Concorde services to the Caribbean when weather etc. required full tanks, and reduced payload. Luckily there was usually a scheduled 747 along later with the baggage.
Bit off topic, but many years ago, left wallet in the taxi at JFK returning to LHR. Driver called BA to let us know he would drop it off when he returned to the airport and they relayed the message to the lounge. He duly did and BA popped it on the later Concorde flight and it was handed back at the gate in London. That is good service. How things change!
This problem has occurred before in Australia, IIRC a regional airline bought turbo props and found they couldn't take off with a full load of pax and baggage. The solution was to fly the luggage in a Baron which followed behind.
Sounds like Australian Airlines J31 operation out of Brisbane. Tillair's Conquest often took the baggage and arrived ahead of the J31 in Charleville and Roma. The punters had the opposite experience of the current situation. With the bags having arrived before them, they disembarked and collected their 'ports' that we'd lined up on the apron.
That story was perpetuated by CX 777 drivers alarmed at losing their hallowed ULH turf to the 350. The 350 is actually less payload limited on 16 hr JFK sectors than the 77W, especially the -1000.
esp since the A35K has a 7 tonne higher payload capability then the 77W and burns about 20 tonnes less fuel, with a shorter sector time.
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Bags
Heres an idea - for flights like this ( international ) - where often people have two bags , assign 1 with ‘need to travel ‘ priority and the other with less. That way if weight limited , the bag with wedding dress / suit essentials goes , and the other one follows - if necessary. Seems simple enough to me - just have to let pax know to pack accordingly. We all do it anyway with essential carry on ? .
A passenger expects to arrive with his/her bags, if weight is such a problem get the pax to state their weight at time of booking, with attendant penalties for fibs , and limits on baggage weights. Yeh, I know it would never work, although it did in my area of drilling airborne holes.
From ground, customer service agent at QF domestic terminal SYD.
QF had 6 baggage handling staff allocated to each flight. Outsourced role, now using 3 per flight.
Means, departures without baggage, irate pax abusing QF staff in arrivals due to no bag, irate walking to departure levels and surrounding QF staff and abusing them. Terminal management pleading with staff to stay back but after taking the abuse, now staff (customer service) are not working longer shifts.
Management of terminal management, hiding at the campus according to customer service agent.
QF had 6 baggage handling staff allocated to each flight. Outsourced role, now using 3 per flight.
Means, departures without baggage, irate pax abusing QF staff in arrivals due to no bag, irate walking to departure levels and surrounding QF staff and abusing them. Terminal management pleading with staff to stay back but after taking the abuse, now staff (customer service) are not working longer shifts.
Management of terminal management, hiding at the campus according to customer service agent.
From ground, customer service agent at QF domestic terminal SYD.
QF had 6 baggage handling staff allocated to each flight. Outsourced role, now using 3 per flight.
Means, departures without baggage, irate pax abusing QF staff in arrivals due to no bag, irate walking to departure levels and surrounding QF staff and abusing them. Terminal management pleading with staff to stay back but after taking the abuse, now staff (customer service) are not working longer shifts.
Management of terminal management, hiding at the campus according to customer service agent.
QF had 6 baggage handling staff allocated to each flight. Outsourced role, now using 3 per flight.
Means, departures without baggage, irate pax abusing QF staff in arrivals due to no bag, irate walking to departure levels and surrounding QF staff and abusing them. Terminal management pleading with staff to stay back but after taking the abuse, now staff (customer service) are not working longer shifts.
Management of terminal management, hiding at the campus according to customer service agent.