The future of VARA?
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From: Brisvegas
It would be a strategic folly to allow QF or Alliance to get them.
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From: In a house
Alliance and Rex have been capital raising getting ready. It’ll be snakes and ladders over the next year or so.
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From: a
Was under the impression VARA Fokkers are owned not leased.
Who knows how lucrative the resources contracts actually are. Tendered by the same people that sent VAH broke with a often proclaimed 1 billion cash reserve, and paid Karl (an employee) $9million when they bought Velocity back.
The administrator couldn’t find that fabled $1 billion CASH and had to run to the federal government asking for a bailout.
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From: Somewhere
The mining contracts are quite lucrative financially and will be for the foreseeable future.
Removing the entire cost layer of VARA and everything single thing associated with it, essentially shutting it down, and operating these routes with Mainline 737s, would still be quite a highly profitable operation.
A lot of doors will open with the new single fleet run venture. Costs will drop like a rock. VARA had so so many layers of cost.
Its fairly obvious the future of Virgin is just 70 737s. That’s it. Anything else that is not associated be with these 70 machines is dust.
Removing the entire cost layer of VARA and everything single thing associated with it, essentially shutting it down, and operating these routes with Mainline 737s, would still be quite a highly profitable operation.
A lot of doors will open with the new single fleet run venture. Costs will drop like a rock. VARA had so so many layers of cost.
Its fairly obvious the future of Virgin is just 70 737s. That’s it. Anything else that is not associated be with these 70 machines is dust.
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From: a
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From: a
Bain has publicly expressed a desire to renegotiate lease terms on the 73N with power by the hour, which if realised will solve the low utilisation issue you've highlighted. Brave new world.
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From: perth
1-2 seems to work but is more in line with keeping the contract happy I.e. minimal disruption of late reliability has been high due to reduced rpt flights giving the spares that are needed Virgin will need to ensure that the mines are kept happy as it’s not a case of sorry your flights delayed there is only one customer on a resource sector flight, RPT is a different animal virgin/Qantas are good at doing that resource flying is something that needs a more focused way of operating
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From: australia
Just me or think making things too hard:
- all contracts utilise 737 and V2 benefit from cost synergy
- for the (minimal?) times a 737 can't do the job/something else is required subcontract with fairly strict compliance requirements to minimise customer being f**ked around.
All talk always said lots of slack in "the village", maybe a few people could sit down and crunch the concept.
Own the contract doesn't mean you have to own the machinery - just have to manage properly.
Apparently a VA strongpoint!
- all contracts utilise 737 and V2 benefit from cost synergy
- for the (minimal?) times a 737 can't do the job/something else is required subcontract with fairly strict compliance requirements to minimise customer being f**ked around.
All talk always said lots of slack in "the village", maybe a few people could sit down and crunch the concept.
Own the contract doesn't mean you have to own the machinery - just have to manage properly.
Apparently a VA strongpoint!
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From: perth
Just me or think making things too hard:
- all contracts utilise 737 and V2 benefit from cost synergy
- for the (minimal?) times a 737 can't do the job/something else is required subcontract with fairly strict compliance requirements to minimise customer being f**ked around.
All talk always said lots of slack in "the village", maybe a few people could sit down and crunch the concept.
Own the contract doesn't mean you have to own the machinery - just have to manage properly.
Apparently a VA strongpoint!
- all contracts utilise 737 and V2 benefit from cost synergy
- for the (minimal?) times a 737 can't do the job/something else is required subcontract with fairly strict compliance requirements to minimise customer being f**ked around.
All talk always said lots of slack in "the village", maybe a few people could sit down and crunch the concept.
Own the contract doesn't mean you have to own the machinery - just have to manage properly.
Apparently a VA strongpoint!
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From: Somewhere
the resource mob won’t tolerate it for long they pay for virgin metal not someone else , is why it isn’t a VA or QF thing both mobs get specialized operators to deal with it during an AOG the client becomes the focus where as with in an RPT op it’s managed differently the punters in the terminal soon forget the delay or are happy to rebook same airline again based on price , the resource guys hit you hard for each delay get a couple in a week and your flying all month for free
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From: perth
Usually the later departures a/c will be back up for early flights with some days having a spare all day the old Fokker isn’t as unreliable as advertised it’s just a different op if you want to do rpt that’s your thing charter is another ball game few do both well .
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From: In the back of a bus
Not to mention certain resource charters have extra insurance requirements (mainly for the smaller operators) but I imagine there's some for VARA too... e.g. only certain listed pilots to operate into a field, minimum equipment requirement, max allowable extension of departure time, and so on.
Also, if you have to ask if a Fokker does better into most FIFO airports, you obviously weren't around during the mid 00s boom. Couldn't buy them for love nor money. XR were slaving to track them down.
Maybe it's changed now but I recall many a time leaving a 146 or a Dash 8 in our dust on a 40C day...
Also, if you have to ask if a Fokker does better into most FIFO airports, you obviously weren't around during the mid 00s boom. Couldn't buy them for love nor money. XR were slaving to track them down.
Maybe it's changed now but I recall many a time leaving a 146 or a Dash 8 in our dust on a 40C day...
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From: home
List the Runways a 737 can not operate from 700 or a 800 with 27K bump
Just face it, your 60s technology dinosaur is a pile of crap
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From: a
Wasn’t the atr bought in house at the behest of a federal regulator after a series of incidents and a bent ATR that continued to fly RPT services.
Sure let’s erase the past and play the victim card. It’s all VA’s fault.
Bent ATR
Sure let’s erase the past and play the victim card. It’s all VA’s fault.
Bent ATR