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REX to transition to ATRs, start domestic jet ops

Old 5th Jan 2021, 02:39
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They don't have excess staff sitting around doing SFA like Qantas does,
SFA, like modern day travel agents. Expedia with a pulse.

Have you ever actually worked airside Craig? Or is that just an observation from the departure lounge?
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 04:10
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didn't Qantas have a lot of employees per aircraft, just like the old Virgin did ?

Think Rex will have less employees per aircraft, being paid less as well.

There's a lot Expedia don't sell.

The smarter travel agents don't even try to compete with the likes of expedia & sell things expedia don't sell.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 04:31
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Whoís responding? Getaway, Kickstarter, BNEA320, Craig? Itís getting confusing!
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 06:36
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Originally Posted by getaway View Post
I wouldn't be buying Qantas tickets either.
Iíll break the bad news to Joyce; there shall be no more Qantas now that getaway has boycotted his airline and is instead flying on Rex forever more.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 08:55
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It might be wise to perhaps push back the start to perhaps June 1? The risk is great of possibly starting March then very up and down for a while to go yet.

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Old 6th Jan 2021, 02:36
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Whoís responding? Getaway, Kickstarter, BNEA320, Craig? Itís getting confusing!
He's got more personalities than Sybil.
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 03:24
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Originally Posted by 1A_Please View Post
He's got more personalities than Sybil.
Nah. He's got a way to go yet. Sybil had 16 of them.
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Old 6th Jan 2021, 04:32
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Well, he’s got at least six identities, but so far zero personalities
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 13:37
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Something useful to add to this thread for a change....

https://www.portnews.com.au/story/70...drawing-board/

ďRex also plans to beef up its trademark Saab 340 turboprop services to regional ports in NSW, Victoria and Western Australia next year.New routes to Coffs Harbour, Port Macquarie, and Tamworth, and Geraldton in WA are on the drawing board, as are extra services to Albury and Mildura on the NSW-Victorian border.Ē

Within NSW in particular Iíd argue thereís opportunities for Rex to ďtake itĒ to QF on some of these destinations. Particularly with connections towards Melbourne (and other capitals to come).

VA was traditionally weak in NSW regional areas, plus their future deal with Alliance will probably see a continuing focus on regional QLD.

The next 2-3 years will be a tough fight for all Aus domestic airlines. Hopefully a niche can be carved out for all. But history would suggest someone will not survive (thatís not QF!)
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 23:04
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I highly doubt they will be “taking it to QF” due to the MEL connection. While they have limited daily connections (it could be 40mins, or it could possibly be 3hrs) to a single capital city, QF will have much more frequented connections to all the major capitals in Aus.
This will end with the familiar “it’s not fair” tears, or hand being extended out by REX
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Old 8th Jan 2021, 09:11
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REX may have a slight edge as the have smaller SAABs and may be easier to fill
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Old 8th Jan 2021, 21:18
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Gee the media is giving Rex a great run....including no one pointing out all the funding and support the Govt has given them, particularly this year or there attitude when QF or VA started flying on a route they had a monopoly on. It is great free advertising....
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Old 8th Jan 2021, 22:47
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Originally Posted by Qantas 787 View Post
Gee the media is giving Rex a great run....including no one pointing out all the funding and support the Govt has given them, particularly this year or there attitude when QF or VA started flying on a route they had a monopoly on. It is great free advertising....
So what? In a Rex vs QF battle, itís pretty obvious who is the underdog....

Iíve worked for multiple companies now that deliberately avoid competing with QF because of their anti competitive attitude (on new regional routes in particular). QF spend all day long complaining to the government about various issues as well. All the airlines do it, so I suggest you get over it.

At the end of the day, having QF, VA and Rex running their own networks means more jobs for us pilots. What we should be hoping for is sustainable competition so we can keep those new jobs...
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Old 11th Jan 2021, 23:01
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Bain will sort Virgin out, possibly resume some international ops and sell in 2-3 years.
New owner will also acquire Rex.

Thus QF have Jetstar and Virgin have Rex, being an airline with a great regional and domestic network and limited international ops that can be sensibly expanded.

Virgin have 737, SAAB and A330/777 and that’s it. Sensible fleet structure.

QF have A380, 787, A350, A330-300/200, 737, 717, Dash 8 400/300 with all the inherent cost inefficiency such an unnecessarily complex fleet structure entails.

Ansett collapsed for exactly this reason.
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Old 12th Jan 2021, 00:45
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Originally Posted by Al E. Vator View Post
Bain will sort Virgin out, possibly resume some international ops and sell in 2-3 years.
New owner will also acquire Rex.

Thus QF have Jetstar and Virgin have Rex, being an airline with a great regional and domestic network and limited international ops that can be sensibly expanded.

Virgin have 737, SAAB and A330/777 and thatís it. Sensible fleet structure.

QF have A380, 787, A350, A330-300/200, 737, 717, Dash 8 400/300 with all the inherent cost inefficiency such an unnecessarily complex fleet structure entails.

Ansett collapsed for exactly this reason.
Struth, a common sense approach. Looking into the crystal ball Singapore would be first mob on the list that would hold interest in merging Rex/virgin. They would buy and pay out Bain and PAG.
The LH aircraft won't be 330s/777 it would be a one fits all i.e. A350,B787-9, or last pick 777 with folding wings and I hope all the redundant pilots get first pick.
That's assuming covid is over and Singapore are all cashed up again.
If Rex are employing the Tiger pilots then they may go full circle and be flying back with Virgin's active Tiger AOC come 2 or 3 years.
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Old 12th Jan 2021, 01:12
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Originally Posted by Al E. Vator View Post
Virgin have 737, SAAB and A330/777 and thatís it. Sensible fleet structure.

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It would be like going back in time. My god just keep it simple. 737 and 787. Donít over complicate things!
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Old 12th Jan 2021, 01:26
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When will people understand that SIA is very good at what it does within the Republic of Singapore but outside of its borders it has a large number of failed airline investments. Why would SIA or rather Temasek consider putting any more money into an Australian airline given the failure of Ansett, Tiger and Virgin? I can't see any state owned carrier investing until their own balance sheet has recovered from the ravages of COVID. As for Qantas going the way of Ansett because of fleet types, its not going to happen. Mainline only has one narrow body type and one wide body type on its domestic network. The other aircraft are flown by contractors. As for LH it is only the 787 and A330 that it is currently operating. Types grounded or not yet purchased can't be included in the "too many types" box. Qantas is run by people who at least understand the industry. Ansett was run by a newspaper owner and a road transport owner who had very little knowledge or interest in the airline industry.
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Old 14th Jan 2021, 06:05
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Originally Posted by aviation_enthus View Post
Something useful to add to this thread for a change....

https://www.portnews.com.au/story/70...drawing-board/

ďRex also plans to beef up its trademark Saab 340 turboprop services to regional ports in NSW, Victoria and Western Australia next year.New routes to Coffs Harbour, Port Macquarie, and Tamworth, and Geraldton in WA are on the drawing board, as are extra services to Albury and Mildura on the NSW-Victorian border.Ē

Within NSW in particular Iíd argue thereís opportunities for Rex to ďtake itĒ to QF on some of these destinations. Particularly with connections towards Melbourne (and other capitals to come).

VA was traditionally weak in NSW regional areas, plus their future deal with Alliance will probably see a continuing focus on regional QLD.

The next 2-3 years will be a tough fight for all Aus domestic airlines. Hopefully a niche can be carved out for all. But history would suggest someone will not survive (thatís not QF!)
think too many people listen to Joyce when he says Rex won't be any competition for QF. Rex is all about costs. No idea what a B738 captain & 1st officer & flight attendants get paid at Rex, but assuming it will be a lot less than QF & new lower cost VA & Rex will have a lot less people in terminals. Wages are a massive bill. Middle of this year will really see the massive recession hit, when jobkeeper payments have well & truly ended. ANZ bank says June/July will be bad economically.
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Old 14th Jan 2021, 06:41
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Economist have from day 1 of this pandemic got everything wrong. I listened to Gerry Harvey talk about his business he said itís up 50%, the magic millions live blood sale is grossing 30 million estimated this yr.
If borders are open you will see ppl spend like they haven't before just like November/December 2020. Latest data from Josh there is over 2b in savings thatís up from this time last year.
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Old 14th Jan 2021, 09:38
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Back on day 1 the economists didnít expect this global clusterf==k to be well and truly kicking on over a year later.

You might be right Ragnor, but itís all guess work from here on in.
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