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Old 27th Dec 2021, 00:51
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
I'm in the 'at risk' group as well, my folks are well into the high risk age group and so on being well over 60 and some in their 80s. The vaccine does not 'stop working' at 5-6 months, it just starts to reduce in effectiveness, so where it had 90% protection it might drop to 60% protection, the booster just kicks it back up to higher levels. Really just depends on what you consider acceptable protection for the circumstance. If Omicron is as docile as stated then even with 50% protection(that one depends on who you believe also) it probably would stop any severe infection, just the problem if you encounter any remaining delta, which is still circulating in Melbourne.
Quite a few real & implied "probabilities" in your surmise.
And being, like your parents, in the high risk age group I am not at all impressed by a national directive to "just get vaccinated" when the same government will not allow me to do so.

Atagi 24 Dec
  • ATAGI recommends bringing forward the minimum interval between the primary course and the booster dose from 5 months to 4 months as soon as practical, noting the holiday period. It is understood that this is achievable from 4 January, although some providers may have flexibility to administer before that time.
  • In addition, as soon as practicalities allow, ATAGI recommends providing boosters to all eligible adults from a minimum of 3 months following the second dose of the primary course.
.....and the practicality is that the earliest that I can get a booster is 5-1/2 months after my last A-Z shot.

I can't help but suspect (strongly suspect) that either the vaccine, hardware or resources for administering same are simply not available.
But hey, you won't win a federal election by admitting that.


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Old 27th Dec 2021, 01:41
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Yeah, the booster program for A-Z recipients is skewed against you. You can try your luck at a chemist. My wife went in and explained that she was a carer and she got the booster 3 weeks before she was due. Of course the next day they changed the recommendation from 5 to 4 months anyway.
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 01:45
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I heard a Professor of Viral Disease ( or something like that) from UWA interviewed last week. He said that anyone that has had AZ should get a third shot ASAP as AZ is almost useless against omicron.
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 02:00
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus
Yeah, the booster program for A-Z recipients is skewed against you. You can try your luck at a chemist. My wife went in and explained that she was a carer and she got the booster 3 weeks before she was due. Of course the next day they changed the recommendation from 5 to 4 months anyway.
You would need to luck onto a pharmacy with vaccine.
All pharmacies & clinics in this area advise that they are not taking bookings until vaccine becomes available and that is not expected until the middle of January.

They can cut the recommendation to 3 days and it still won't get me a booster before 5-1/2 months.
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 02:30
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If you're in Brissy and you're now eligible for a booster, shop around. I previously had an appointment for 5 months and a day after 2nd dose but was able to move that forward to Jan 4th (2 weeks earlier and closer to home) with a little search on Hotdoc.
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 02:51
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Originally Posted by SOPS
I heard a Professor of Viral Disease ( or something like that) from UWA interviewed last week. He said that anyone that has had AZ should get a third shot ASAP as AZ is almost useless against omicron.
Useless as in preventing severe illness, or useless as in preventing infection?
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 02:54
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
You would need to luck onto a pharmacy with vaccine.
All pharmacies & clinics in this area advise that they are not taking bookings until vaccine becomes available and that is not expected until the middle of January.

They can cut the recommendation to 3 days and it still won't get me a booster before 5-1/2 months.
Why isnít it available now? Some local chemists here have Moderna, and I got a Pfizer booster last week at a local clinic.
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 03:22
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus
Why isnít it available now? Some local chemists here have Moderna, and I got a Pfizer booster last week at a local clinic.
Bl..dy good question. If you have an answer I'll be keen to hear it.
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 03:28
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Originally Posted by Jester64
Useless as in preventing severe illness, or useless as in preventing infection?
Actually.. that is a very good question.
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 06:33
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
Bl..dy good question. If you have an answer I'll be keen to hear it.
I happened to be listening to the news when they announced that you could get a booster 5 months after initial vaccination course. As luck would have it, the announcement was made 5 months after my initial course, so I booked immediately and had my booster done at the local chemist a week later. The pharmacist told me they were surprised by the announcement, as it happened immediately AFTER chemists had to put in their vaccine order. She told me that I was lucky I booked straight away, as they were expecting demand would outstrip supply as they were unable to amend their order after the changed time frame announcement. Make of that what you will, being third hand information, but it appears consistent with people here not being able to get boosters this month.
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 10:39
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Originally Posted by SOPS
Actually.. that is a very good question.
It's the kind of question you should be asking yourself before swallowing the crap the mainstream media feeds you and especially before regurgitating the same misleading statement to others
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 11:38
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It's the kind of question you should be asking yourself before swallowing the crap the mainstream media feeds you and especially before regurgitating the same misleading statement to others
And your information comes from where? Information from YouTube?
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 11:41
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And your information comes from where? Information from YouTube?
I can assure you I use YouTube for more entertaining purposes
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 12:03
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Originally Posted by Jester64
I can assure you I use YouTube for more entertaining purposes

So please inform us of what you know. And who told you what you know. My Doctor rang me today to tell me to get my third shot in two weeks.. as I have had AZ. I assume she is telling me crap, because she listens to MSM?
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 12:22
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WTF are you on about?? I have not provided this forum any information or opinion regarding covid or the vaccine. You however provided us with a very significant and possibly misleading statement regarding the vaccine and Omicron, which I questioned you on. You then admitted to not knowing the answer. So Iím calling you out on spreading possible misinformation.
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Old 29th Dec 2021, 11:52
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Originally Posted by SHVC
Permits permits permits! As there is a lot of focus on the world 1 male tennis player refusing to prove vaccination to be able to play in the slam in Melbourne, he has already been registered to play. I would of thought given the current rules of entry for international arrivals he would be sent to HQ for 14 days if he does not provide evidence, there fore not to much of an issue at state level unless he does go to HQ and still tryís to compete. How would victorians feel if DA made an exemption for NJ to play!
Well, I gess this pandemia has shown worldwide that simply we are all the same, so far. It seems to me that selfish attitudes do not fit in this world anymore, and getting vaccinated is a humanitarian reason and has made the difference, saving lives. My conclusion is that no exemption should take place, in respect to Australians, as well as wordlwide people. Talking about athletes, they should be the examples so far, with good attitudes, otherwise think about lockdowns as a consequence of new COVID waves, which also affects their activities. Let's say, a very good example is RF, full of titles inside and also outside the courts.

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Old 29th Dec 2021, 12:06
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After much fanfare and backslapping, Qantas will no longer operate to London from early January. Emirates code share tickets only. Loads have obviously plummeted on the back of the UK’s current infection explosion, crushing any demand for travel to London.
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Old 29th Dec 2021, 12:41
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After much fanfare and backslapping, Qantas will no longer operate to London from early January. Emirates code share tickets only. Loads have obviously plummeted on the back of the UKís current infection explosion, crushing any demand for travel to London.
source pleaseÖ..
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Old 29th Dec 2021, 20:06
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After much fanfare and backslapping, Qantas will no longer operate to London from early January. Emirates code share tickets only. Loads have obviously plummeted on the back of the UKís current infection explosion, crushing any demand for travel to London.
QF1 is still showing as operating 27JAN
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Old 29th Dec 2021, 20:37
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Originally Posted by Chris2303
QF1 is still showing as operating 27JAN

I also checked a number of dates, which showed flights still operating. They are definitely cutting the frequency, however I dont think stopping altogether. I thought maybe 3 days a week or something. Not great for the crew now every port is classed as a D
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