All borders to reopen.
Why try and ignore facts and change history.
One Victorian spread it to one NSW at the start. Victoria then beat it, NSW played politics, played with fire and the fire got loose. No one else is playing politics with this, the comments coming from other leaders is frustration that NSW screwed the pooch and now it's rife everywhere. Since then large numbers of people that have visited NSW or from there have traveled interstate with it and spread it in numbers that grow rapidly, including NZ.
This outbreak is squarely on the NSW gov and Gladys and her team, remember that at the polling booth.
It is possible to beat it when numbers are low, Melbourne proved that. Wait too long while numbers simmer, well then it's chasing your tail like Sydney is doing right now.
Had NSW done what everyone else had done instead of trying to prove some misguided contact tracing worked and just locked down hard we could be having this conversation in a pub anywhere in Australia.
One Victorian spread it to one NSW at the start. Victoria then beat it, NSW played politics, played with fire and the fire got loose. No one else is playing politics with this, the comments coming from other leaders is frustration that NSW screwed the pooch and now it's rife everywhere. Since then large numbers of people that have visited NSW or from there have traveled interstate with it and spread it in numbers that grow rapidly, including NZ.
This outbreak is squarely on the NSW gov and Gladys and her team, remember that at the polling booth.
It is possible to beat it when numbers are low, Melbourne proved that. Wait too long while numbers simmer, well then it's chasing your tail like Sydney is doing right now.
Had NSW done what everyone else had done instead of trying to prove some misguided contact tracing worked and just locked down hard we could be having this conversation in a pub anywhere in Australia.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...5d24bfa57fa17c
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0210609-p57zae
Short memories. We’ve had plenty of Victorians fleeing Chairman Dan’s gold standard, spreading COVID as they go. Up here in Cairns, we can tell when Victorian’s are 3 days into lockdown by the sudden influx of Victoria - The Lockdown State plates as victorians flee.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0210609-p57zae
Short memories. We’ve had plenty of Victorians fleeing Chairman Dan’s gold standard, spreading COVID as they go. Up here in Cairns, we can tell when Victorian’s are 3 days into lockdown by the sudden influx of Victoria - The Lockdown State plates as victorians flee.
The [New Zealand] government closed the trans-Tasman bubble on 25 July after the outbreak in New South Wales. Anyone returning from New South Wales was required to go to into quarantine. Travellers from Victoria were required to self-isolate for three days and produce two negative tests. But New Zealanders returning from other parts of Australia were given a week-long grace period to return without having to isolate. Those travellers were required to have a pre-departure test before arrival but the emergence of the virus has raised questions over whether that line of defence was breached.
Ardern said there was 100% compliance with the rules made on the closure of the bubble, but despite this health officials would be producing a list of all arrivals from Australia into New Zealand during that period and contacting them again.
Ardern said there was 100% compliance with the rules made on the closure of the bubble, but despite this health officials would be producing a list of all arrivals from Australia into New Zealand during that period and contacting them again.
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Operation ‘zero’ cases
https://coronavirusexplained.ukri.or...ticle/pub0008/
Perhaps some of these ‘mystery’ infections have come via the post with your Mail, EBay purchases, Amazon deliveries, Uber eats and flower deliveries? Have our fearless politicians and their CMO’s explored this possibility? Time to shut down everything and go into underground bunkers (only if you have a vaccine passport) and pop back up in 3 years time. Like a post-nuclear winter.
Perhaps some of these ‘mystery’ infections have come via the post with your Mail, EBay purchases, Amazon deliveries, Uber eats and flower deliveries? Have our fearless politicians and their CMO’s explored this possibility? Time to shut down everything and go into underground bunkers (only if you have a vaccine passport) and pop back up in 3 years time. Like a post-nuclear winter.
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250,000 infections would get us out of this quicker . Fear would have lines at vaccination centres , federal government would flood country with vaccines and we would forget this whack a mole attitude .
Just what Australia needs. Another partisan political influencer!
Why do you think McGowan keeps slamming borders shut to WA. Because he won an election in a complete wipeout of the opposition during covid. That result gave him the mandate to keep doing it as needed and more, whether that was the intention of the voters or not, that's what they endorsed.
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And a big vote of confidence in WA's hotel quarantine. It works fine when the majority of people aren't infected....McGowan is rightfully sh1t scared about the parlous state of affairs in the state's health system.
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Despite al the rhetoric, quite a few people in WA have relatives in “The East”, not to mention all the British expats who live there.
Sooner or later, WA is going to have to open up.
Sooner or later, WA is going to have to open up.
Many of the cases announced today are a result of 13 day tests which have still come up positive so a further 14 day quarantine for those individuals.
Andrews said although they would much rather see low numbers this is not a day to panic over the numbers as it was somewhat expected.
Last year was a disaster down here but to give them some credit it looks like it is under control & not exploding all through the state or even the suburbs.
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Much easier to prove, to persuade a person in the age range that gets hit by 20-50% mortality rates that vaccinating is in their interest. As you can see reading back the main issue is the younger folk believing it's like the flu, until they get it and then somehow changing their tune, add to that some well placed conspiracies and bad media.
Anecdotally, the largest group needing to sway is 50-70 year olds unwilling to get AZ, "waiting for Pfizer". Everyone can make their own choice re vaccination - but I really hope they don't get priority over young people who haven't had the 'choice'.
I couldn't give a damn Gnads, not my state, however I don't want to hear anyone complaining in her next term when she stuffs it again and you had the chance to remove her. That's where the public have their chance to say if these policies were right or wrong. If you don't understand it's your vote that determines policy in these times, then you are lost.
Why do you think McGowan keeps slamming borders shut to WA. Because he won an election in a complete wipeout of the opposition during covid. That result gave him the mandate to keep doing it as needed and more, whether that was the intention of the voters or not, that's what they endorsed.
Why do you think McGowan keeps slamming borders shut to WA. Because he won an election in a complete wipeout of the opposition during covid. That result gave him the mandate to keep doing it as needed and more, whether that was the intention of the voters or not, that's what they endorsed.
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only old retired blokes with no life who don’t fly anymore yet still frequent aviation sites listen to WA talkback. Either way, I wouldn’t call a talkback audience a good sample.
he’s done a great job. Last month, ambulance ramp hours blew through 5000 in a month. That’s 5000 hours of an ambulance sitting outside an ED with a patient inside, unable to get treatment, and with the ambulance unable to be redeployed elsewhere. It’s no wonder he’s so shit scared of COVID.
he’s done nothing. He’s a pathetic man who jumps onto the latest public opinion issue and follows the masses.
so while you smugly sit in WA now jumping on here every day to share the latest tidbit of minor information and take joy in the decline or end of many pilots careers, remember that not too far into the future, when WA residents see the rest of Australia getting on with life while you’re stuck in the one place (may not bother you personally but it will annoy many expats and others), we’ll be sitting here flipping the bird at you lot saying ‘couldn’t give a toss’
only old retired blokes with no life who don’t fly anymore yet still frequent aviation sites listen to WA talkback. Either way, I wouldn’t call a talkback audience a good sample.
he’s done a great job. Last month, ambulance ramp hours blew through 5000 in a month. That’s 5000 hours of an ambulance sitting outside an ED with a patient inside, unable to get treatment, and with the ambulance unable to be redeployed elsewhere. It’s no wonder he’s so shit scared of COVID.
he’s done nothing. He’s a pathetic man who jumps onto the latest public opinion issue and follows the masses.
so while you smugly sit in WA now jumping on here every day to share the latest tidbit of minor information and take joy in the decline or end of many pilots careers, remember that not too far into the future, when WA residents see the rest of Australia getting on with life while you’re stuck in the one place (may not bother you personally but it will annoy many expats and others), we’ll be sitting here flipping the bird at you lot saying ‘couldn’t give a toss’
he’s done a great job. Last month, ambulance ramp hours blew through 5000 in a month. That’s 5000 hours of an ambulance sitting outside an ED with a patient inside, unable to get treatment, and with the ambulance unable to be redeployed elsewhere. It’s no wonder he’s so shit scared of COVID.
he’s done nothing. He’s a pathetic man who jumps onto the latest public opinion issue and follows the masses.
so while you smugly sit in WA now jumping on here every day to share the latest tidbit of minor information and take joy in the decline or end of many pilots careers, remember that not too far into the future, when WA residents see the rest of Australia getting on with life while you’re stuck in the one place (may not bother you personally but it will annoy many expats and others), we’ll be sitting here flipping the bird at you lot saying ‘couldn’t give a toss’
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i genuinely hope that’s the case. We get it. Can’t deny WA is in a good place now. McGowan has done NOTHING outside of lock everyone out and claim victory. People are so focussed on COVID they forget about the other stuff. Those ambulance times are diabolical. He won’t spend a cent of all WA’s apparent riches on basic amenities for the public, so where does it all go. When covid does get there, he’s finished.
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Gladys said today we now have to live with this virus. ( Where did this common sense come from). Well if they started with that philosophy from scratch, we wouldn't be in this mess now. Then Scotty says we must suppress the virus. Making up policy on the spot. Next question the UK opened up at 50% with a population of 63 mil. Then want us to open up at 80% with a population of 25 mil. Um, our CHOs obviously failed elementary mathematics never mind physiology talk about that another time.
