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Old 27th Jun 2021, 08:30
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Originally Posted by Cafe City View Post
While much has been spoken about the increased communicability of some of the latest variants, I have not heard any of the CHOs mention to what extent the reported positive cases are suffering in terms of health outcomes or treatment response.
I am not of course expecting them to give details of individual cases but in the early days of the pandemic in Europe, we saw graphic footage of people literally gasping their last breaths and doctors being able to do little about it.
So for the current crop of positive cases in Australia, how sick in general are these people? Are the majority showing nothing worse than what would have put them on sick leave from work for a few days 2 years ago? Or are they all in hospital under constant attention with life-threatening symptoms?
I ask the question because I genuinely have not heard or read of what has happened to the vast majority who were positive over the past few months.
Also the seeming lack of people who have or are aware they have debilitating symptoms even though they have been in contact with these positive cases does not seem to add up. (I don't mean that in a conspiratorial manner - just an observation)
Can anybody enlighten me??
I have the same question in mind, I did some online search as well canít find any useful information. There are some new cases in south China, the medical experts in an interview mentioned only a few cases needed to be sent to ICU and all getting better. It seems the variant is more contagious but less lethal, just the government only want to mention the contagious part but ignore the other part. Correct me if anyone has more information.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 08:35
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Originally Posted by turbantime View Post
And all have recovered after some mild symptoms.
300 having to be hospitalised. I wouldn’t call that mild symptoms. You don’t get admitted to hospital for mild symptoms. And fully recovered. We won’t know the full impact until they die. It might take a few years off their lives ..who knows.

this relates to 7 boys in the US, which are in addition to the hundreds in Israel

Two to six days in hospital..6 days sounds quite serious. Even two days now is a lot. Now doing pretty well. Wow that sounds encouraging. Not fully recovered…. And only likely heart changes were temporary. But we don’t really know…,

The boys, aged 14 to 19, received Pfizer shots in April or May and developed chest pain within a few days. Heart imaging tests showed a type of heart muscle inflammation called myocarditis.

None were critically ill. All were healthy enough to be sent home after two to six days in the hospital and are doing “doing pretty well,” said Dr. Preeti Jaggi, an Emory University infectious disease specialist who co-authored the report.

She said more follow-up is needed to determine how the seven fare but that it’s likely the heart changes were temporary.

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Old 27th Jun 2021, 09:03
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Originally Posted by chookcooker View Post
then youíre an idiot.
My bad writing, I mean Iíd much rather take the risk of side effects from vaccine than the risk to health of COVID.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 09:27
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We are nearly at a standstill folks. McGowan now putting up the border.

Wonít be much left by tomorrow it seems. Perhaps Melbourne and Adelaide to Tasmania and thatís it. Brisbane to Cairns and below. Melbourne to Mildura.

Alan is going to need some more cash fairly soon.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 09:42
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post

Alan is going to need some more cash fairly soon.
Iíd say itíd be John S at this point in time.....

Having said that I watched the presser, I thought McG was going to throw up a full hard border to everywhere so the fact heís keeping it in proportion is a more welcome sign than 2020, I reckon the situation in all states bar NSW doesnít look too concerning at the moment, Iíd just say itís up to Gladys to get NSWís act together. I would say around a month of disruption out of this.

Also there was an important statement, despite some doom mongers saying this will go on forever, he did say in the presser that once a ďlarge majorityĒ is vaccinated then they can avoid lockdowns/restrictions.

Just need to ignore the anti-vaxxers

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Old 27th Jun 2021, 09:52
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and the bed wetting continues...

masks needed while walking into Suncorp but you can take them off once you sit down 🤦‍♂️

Because you canít catch Covid while sitting down and cheering

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Old 27th Jun 2021, 10:12
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If I hear "Its been based on health advise" by one of our politicians once more I am gona puke !!!
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 10:37
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Better get the vomit bag because this crap will be repeated for the next few years lol.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 10:42
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This is about to explode, I’m not a doctor but blind Freddy says it’s pretty obvious, Adelaide is the last fortress but they will be infiltrated in the next few days. When every state has outbreaks should they close to each other? This pathetic goal of zero cases is like mopping a floor while muddy shoed kids keep running over it. What is the endgame? What is the exit strategy? Oh yeah that’s Scomo, a completely useless idiot that has no idea, only got the job by stabbing a colleague in the back.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 11:33
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Yes. This Indian variant seems to have spattered wider than a vindaloo squirt.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 11:50
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack View Post
This is about to explode, Iím not a doctor but blind Freddy says itís pretty obvious, Adelaide is the last fortress but they will be infiltrated in the next few days. When every state has outbreaks should they close to each other? This pathetic goal of zero cases is like mopping a floor while muddy shoed kids keep running over it. What is the endgame? What is the exit strategy? Oh yeah thatís Scomo, a completely useless idiot that has no idea, only got the job by stabbing a colleague in the back.
ScoMo is dropping the ball on so many issues unless he starts to reform immediately by becoming proactive rather than reactive he will loose the next election - and deservedly so unless he gets his shit together.
It's becoming less cynical to suggest his focus is solely on the timing of the next election, mundane issues such as Covid of no pressing importance....apparently.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 12:30
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Gladys should have gone early on lockdown.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 15:50
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Well until they make a gluten free , vegan , almond milk vaccine . One that is approved by every holistic medical organisation on the planet oh , better be low calorie also . We just have to get used to closed borders at short notice .
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 19:47
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Itís cold and flu season..lockdowns and masking have achieved no noticeable success in stopping the spread anywhere in the world. The virus spreads indoors mostly..quarantine facilities are leaky everywhere theyíre in use. Every country gets its turn
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 21:07
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Originally Posted by mattyj View Post
Itís cold and flu season..lockdowns and masking have achieved no noticeable success in stopping the spread anywhere in the world. The virus spreads indoors mostly..quarantine facilities are leaky everywhere theyíre in use. Every country gets its turn
Funny how there has been very little influenza in NZ over the past 12 months
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 22:07
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Originally Posted by Potsie Weber View Post
My bad writing, I mean Iíd much rather take the risk of side effects from vaccine than the risk to health of COVID.
Here,here.
The nay sayers can put any anti vax spin out there but 1 wonders if they have also refused all medication throughout their life on the basis of being developed too quickly or not knowing side effects.
Every script box you get from the chemist has possible side effects listed but i dont see protests & media hype about them.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 22:11
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Originally Posted by SOPS View Post
Gladys should have gone early on lockdown.
Yes she should but as you know many will say the opposite.
Governments are dammed if they do & dammed if they dont.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 22:14
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Originally Posted by volare_737 View Post
If I hear "Its been based on health advise" by one of our politicians once more I am gona puke !!!
Fair comment but in your opinion,what advice should be used?
I am not saying i disagree with you but interested to hear your thoughts.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 22:41
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I wish the gov would stop comparing us to the UK, 18,000 cases yesterday I can’t recall the deaths but well under 100. Those are pretty good odds to me given their size.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 22:58
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
I wish the gov would stop comparing us to the UK, 18,000 cases yesterday I canít recall the deaths but well under 100. Those are pretty good odds to me given their size.
11 deaths yesterday in the Uk although theyíre a lagging indicator.
start on June they were approx 6,000 cases a day
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