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Old 9th Feb 2021, 23:03
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So let's look at those new numbers, then consider them as a function of the Australian population.

Interestingly, though completely unsurprisingly, NSW is again carrying the lions share of the incoming passenger load, vastly over and above their fair share. And as has been proven many times over, from all states, this bug can get out of HQ. This bug will get out of HQ again. But the likes of QLD and WA in particular, see absolutely no issue with closing their borders to NSW as a result of that leakage, even though they are happy to let NSW process the overwhelming majority of returning travellers - and in the case of WA, demanding "28 days pestilence free" before they'll even think about reopening their borders. The WA hard border to NSW went up 05 April 2020, reopened 08 December, was reintroduced December 17 and remains current. That's a total of 303 days (over 80% of the last year) of NSWelshmen being unable to travel to WA, either at all, or without quarantining.

Perhaps Gladys needs to call their bluff.... "Alright you lot, you want to lock out NSW citizens over 1 case when we're doing the heavy lifting, fine! I'm closing our HQ system for returning passengers. You want them home? You deal with it. We've done our bit for the cause, and I'm not going to have my constituents punished through border closures, lost holidays, cancelled weddings and missed funerals because you're a bunch of selfish, paranoid & un-Australian asreholes!"

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Old 9th Feb 2021, 23:03
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Originally Posted by Foxxster
I heard an interview from an expert from ANU yesterday. He said remote quarantine was NOT feasible.
An expert in what? Medicine? Transport logistics? Security? Air conditioning?
Not feasible from what perspective?
If he/she meant “hard work” or it might upset somebody rather than feasible, then tough sh1t. Get on with it.

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Old 9th Feb 2021, 23:17
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Quite incredible that Andrews is boasting after nearly 1000 deaths

Does anyone believe the "aerosol transmission" being promoted by Andrews Govt right now to explain latest infections of HQ in Melbourne ?

When will Qld & Tasmania close their borders to Victoria again ?

(can't figure out why Qld would still be open to Vict , when they closed to parts of WA , but I am dumb so maybe someone could explain this to me)

Update Midday: Now two staff from Airport Travelodge infected , building evacuated more infections expected. Talking about a nebuliser or something
, looking like a breakdown in basic protocol or lack of commonsense. Also a staff infection at City Hyatt

So is Melb facing an illusive , highly complex mode of transmission that is so much more difficult than anywhere else ? or is it just a breakdown of basic sh*t same as July 2020 ?

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Old 9th Feb 2021, 23:44
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About time a few premiers were summoned to a meeting in Canberra about the functioning of the Commonwealth. The fact there are a few out there who think they are a independent country in itself is a concern. The hypocrisy of it is that they still want federal grants and welfare paid for them and for the people from other states to defend them when a Chinese Armada turns up at their doorstep yet they won't enable the constitution to function as it is written.
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 00:06
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody
About time a few premiers were summoned to a meeting in Canberra about the functioning of the Commonwealth. The fact there are a few out there who think they are a independent country in itself is a concern. The hypocrisy of it is that they still want federal grants and welfare paid for them and for the people from other states to defend them when a Chinese Armada turns up at their doorstep yet they won't enable the constitution to function as it is written.
Regarding "want ...................the people from other states to defend them when a Chinese Armada turns up at their doorstep".
We may wish it, but we know better than to expect it.
And I can't help but see the irony in your expecting that an Asian invasion would target WA to the exclusion of the "eastern states".
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 00:33
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody
About time a few premiers were summoned to a meeting in Canberra about the functioning of the Commonwealth. The fact there are a few out there who think they are a independent country in itself is a concern. The hypocrisy of it is that they still want federal grants and welfare paid for them and for the people from other states to defend them when a Chinese Armada turns up at their doorstep yet they won't enable the constitution to function as it is written.
"about the functioning of the Commonwealth" Quite right, they are responsible for quarantine after all!
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 01:03
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It looks like Melbourne has community transmission again. Another lock down coming??
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 01:32
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Originally Posted by LapSap
An expert in what? Medicine? Transport logistics? Security? Air conditioning?
Not feasible from what perspective?
If he/she meant “hard work” or it might upset somebody rather than feasible, then tough sh1t. Get on with it.
go to the 59.30 mark.

Professor Peter Collingnon.

https://medicalschool.anu.edu.au/peo...r-collignon-am
he is a professor at the ANU, infectious disease expert. Goes for about 10 minutes. He goes through a number of things very well. And I think much better qualified than anyone posting here.

https://www.2gb.com/podcast/drive-wi...ow-february-8/

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We may wish it, but we know better than to expect it.
We put well deserved **** on you, but really? You think that?
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 01:49
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So DA has reversed the decision to increase overseas intake numbers due to the “load” on the system.
I heard the tail end of the federal briefing last week and could have sworn I heard the CMO state that l, at that moment, there were a total of 9 Covid patients hospitalised in the whole of Australia and zero in ICU. (1 as of a day or so ago I understand ).
Is this the “load” he is talking about?
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 02:02
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So apparently now this new strain is a hyper-infectious mutant strain.


https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...02f60e20444095
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 02:18
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All very high powered Dan & the gang talking about hyper infective mutant strains & thermo nuclear vortex effect spread through nebulisers

Does anyone believe this s**t ?
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 02:21
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Originally Posted by McLimit
We put well deserved **** on you, but really? You think that?
121 years of narking, patronising disparagement and we're supposed to feel warm and fuzzy about the eastern states? Really?
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 02:22
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Well AMA Victoria seems to...id imagine they are fairly qualified to comment.....All comes back to hotels not being suitable for quarantine purposes…how many times do we need to be told.

Taken from ABC:"The AMA's Julian Rait said risks posed by new highly infectuous strains highlighted the need for better air flow at these sites.

"The use of these nebulisers then this emphasizes there's need for greater scrutiny of the ventilation in hotel quarantine and we also need to look at it much more carefully because we know of the variants arising from the UK and South Africa and so," he said.

On Twitter, he said that many city hotels were "woefully inadequate" for quarantine purposes.

"The AMA would like to see the original ventilation audit to demonstrate that the Holiday Inn was safe to use in the first place," Professor Rait tweeted.
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 02:37
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Originally Posted by jrfsp
Well AMA Victoria seems to...id imagine they are fairly qualified to comment.....All comes back to hotels not being suitable for quarantine purposes…how many times do we need to be told.

Taken from ABC:"The AMA's Julian Rait said risks posed by new highly infectuous strains highlighted the need for better air flow at these sites.

"The use of these nebulisers then this emphasizes there's need for greater scrutiny of the ventilation in hotel quarantine and we also need to look at it much more carefully because we know of the variants arising from the UK and South Africa and so," he said.

On Twitter, he said that many city hotels were "woefully inadequate" for quarantine purposes.

"The AMA would like to see the original ventilation audit to demonstrate that the Holiday Inn was safe to use in the first place," Professor Rait tweeted.
you are talking about Victoria. Who have shown themselves to be utterly incompetent. And when caught out, are led by someone whose default position is to blatantly and repeatedly lie.

if anyone thinks that a remote site managed ,using that word extremely loosely, by these fools would be any better than their keystone cops hotel quarantine then you need medical help yourselves. Of the psychiatric variety.
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 03:06
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All is well Premier Andrews had assured us that our HQ is superior to that of NSW - "that is just a fact" & he also told us we teach the other states about
all this stuff in his late night conference after 1st infection (1 week ago)

He has also assured us that guests will be asked not to use nebulisers & requested us not to blame or become angry with the man who did as that would just be mean

The other states just don't understand they are backwards we are the superior "education state"

All fixed now
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 03:40
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
121 years of narking, patronising disparagement and we're supposed to feel warm and fuzzy about the eastern states? Really?
To be fair, Queensland and Tasmania have always copped plenty of narking, patronising disparagement as well. So would SA, except that nobody cares enough about it to be bothered.
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 04:22
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Originally Posted by itsnotthatbloodyhard
To be fair, Queensland and Tasmania have always copped plenty of narking, patronising disparagement as well. So would SA, except that nobody cares enough about it to be bothered.
Very correct
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 04:34
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SA now looking to close to greater MEL, i reckon TAS, NT, ACT maybe QLD will follow
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Old 10th Feb 2021, 04:42
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SA & NT were closed at least a few days ago

We got the best hotel quarantine in the world

We got the best hotel quarantine in the world

We got the best hotel quarantine in the whole wide world

And we can all thank Uncle Dan..........
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