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Which still involved restrictions, lockdowns, isolation and testing requirements which affects confidence for travel.
Hate to sound like a broken record but the person wouldn’t be travelling all over the city after work if they weren’t in a city......
Hate to sound like a broken record but the person wouldn’t be travelling all over the city after work if they weren’t in a city......
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Which still involved restrictions, lockdowns, isolation and testing requirements which affects confidence for travel.
- Rational, proportional, pragmatic restrictions.
- Contact traced isolation, risk based isolation.
- Outstanding community response to testing requested from leaders, not hysterical premiers.
- Confidence dented by hysterical, politically motivated, non-leaders.
- Targeted, rational, pragmatic lockdowns.
- Rational, proportional, pragmatic restrictions.
- Contact traced isolation, risk based isolation.
- Outstanding community response to testing requested from leaders, not hysterical premiers.
- Confidence dented by hysterical, politically motivated, non-leaders.
- Rational, proportional, pragmatic restrictions.
- Contact traced isolation, risk based isolation.
- Outstanding community response to testing requested from leaders, not hysterical premiers.
- Confidence dented by hysterical, politically motivated, non-leaders.
1000 people in the Australian Open bubble in isolation due to one worker case. They clearly wouldn’t have all come into contact within them... probably not even 1%.
All of those targeted, rational, proportionate measures are great until other states shut their borders. Which leaves us in the same quagmire of endless shutdowns and vanishing travel demand.
Absolutely all of the human and economic disaster of the past year is a direct result of wishful, magical thinking on the part of our governments. Time to restrict international quarantine to dedicated facilities.
Absolutely all of the human and economic disaster of the past year is a direct result of wishful, magical thinking on the part of our governments. Time to restrict international quarantine to dedicated facilities.
Dannyboy:
Maths wasn't your strong subject at school was it?
You can shut down now for one discovered case for perhaps 14 days, or,
You can ignore that one case for the next two weeks and then shut the whole State down for three to six months while we try to deal with the hundreds of cases that one case has spawned.
Your choice.
100%. You can’t shut the world down for one case.
1000 people in the Australian Open bubble in isolation due to one worker case. They clearly wouldn’t have all come into contact within them... probably not even 1%.
1000 people in the Australian Open bubble in isolation due to one worker case. They clearly wouldn’t have all come into contact within them... probably not even 1%.
You can shut down now for one discovered case for perhaps 14 days, or,
You can ignore that one case for the next two weeks and then shut the whole State down for three to six months while we try to deal with the hundreds of cases that one case has spawned.
Your choice.
There comes a point where someone has to call time on goings-on.
Doing the same thing, over and over, and expecting a different result is madness. Note that, so far as I'm aware, neither NSW Health, Qld Health or the mob in WA can positively tell you how it got out of HQ! And it looks like it might be the same in Mexico as well.
If they don't know how it spread in "quarantine" then how can they stop it in the future? And that being the case, if they are not assured they can prevent it in the future, any ongoing HQ is a pointless exercise so long as you have trigger-happy politicians playing God with their borders and the Australian people - because when it does get out again, as it most certainly will, there goes the border, there goes travel, weddings, funerals and jobs.
The simple, though politically incorrect & unpalatable answer, to me seems to be an immediate halt on all international passenger arrivals. Yes, we will still need HQ for the aircrew on freighters, but that is a tiny percentage of that required now, and their time here in quarantine is maybe 10% of that of passengers, with consequent lower interaction with the hotel staff & guards, etc.
A factor which prompted a different health response between states was the NSW Northern Beaches outbreak was not of the new more transmissible mutation, whereas the WA and Qld ones were.
With the new mutation obviously defeating previous quarantine protocols new measures will have to be looked at.
With the new mutation obviously defeating previous quarantine protocols new measures will have to be looked at.
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We have all worked our butts off to we pretty much had eradicate the virus, but the leak in the international arrivals causing the WA cases. DA of Vic however has purposely trucked in 1500 internationals for the tennis causing the latest. When does it stop
...available now, in sufficient quantity, and with enough time to have an effect. Even with all of that though, international arrivals will still leak virus out of quarantine facilities and the unvaccinated will still be at risk. The only way forward is a wider air gap between the arrivals and the public.
...available now, in sufficient quantity, and with enough time to have an effect. Even with all of that though, international arrivals will still leak virus out of quarantine facilities and the unvaccinated will still be at risk. The only way forward is a wider air gap between the arrivals and the public.
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I must be imagining that europe and the USA are vaccinating at immense rates currently. They must be magicking up all their stock.
US alone has administered over 30,000,000 shots to our..... 0
but yes, it’ was absolutely impossible to hasten the process.
We announced we wouldn’t approve the vaccines until feb and the drug makers allocated stock accordingly.
US alone has administered over 30,000,000 shots to our..... 0
but yes, it’ was absolutely impossible to hasten the process.
We announced we wouldn’t approve the vaccines until feb and the drug makers allocated stock accordingly.
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Alas it seems to work.
Ramp up HS to maximum capacity!!!
With the new mutation obviously defeating previous quarantine protocols new measures will have to be looked at.
Again...here we are five days after his positive test (Saturday night) and still no more cases. Try a rough cost benefit analysis on closing all businesses, closing schools, stopping FIFO shift changes and preventing people leaving Perth to holiday around the state. Imagine a rough number. Now weigh that against one security guard who at most had contact with 189 people. 138 of which have tested negative so far. Mind boggling over reaction. Is that an election I see over there...
But you can't put a price on everyones safety.............
Interestingly they locked up his housemates in quarantine (not in their own home) yet they hadn't tested positive but McGowan was absolutely sure that they will test positive in the near future. Here we are five days later and still nothing anywhere, let alone his close contacts.
What is becoming evident is that at times the UK strain is insanely infectious, but most of the other time it would appear not to be.
ie. Local and internationally, people have repeatedly picked it up in Q with no face to face contact, yet have not (to date) spread it widely themselves in society, despite being in a position of being able to do so..
AUNZ are probably in a unique position to monitor this as the outbreaks here as so isolated that the pathways of transmission are able to be determined.
ie. Local and internationally, people have repeatedly picked it up in Q with no face to face contact, yet have not (to date) spread it widely themselves in society, despite being in a position of being able to do so..
AUNZ are probably in a unique position to monitor this as the outbreaks here as so isolated that the pathways of transmission are able to be determined.