All borders to reopen.
Retrospective isolation for crew backdated to anyone’s guess and just landing in a state other than WA constitutes entering that State even if you don’t leave the aircraft!.
No other crews have the restrictions McGowan has applied to WA crews but still expects FIFO and cargo to continue.
Whilst the population moves freely unabated the crews are locked at home.
No other crews have the restrictions McGowan has applied to WA crews but still expects FIFO and cargo to continue.
Whilst the population moves freely unabated the crews are locked at home.
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You’d think Airline Pilot and Flight Attendant would classify as Transport and Logistics. Rolling testing like a Kenworth driver.
Maybe we should offload anything in the hold other than bags.
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Not sure what AJ and JH would achieve. I think the states would much prefer if all airlines didn't fly each premier does not give to hoots about QF, JQ, VA Rex etc for them it would be one less place they have to send resources to so they could use them on the border.
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Why all the bickering? Who cares about states and their premiers, they are basically pawns on a chess board. Perth, Brisbane they will be next, it will get out regardless. The weakest link in this whole mess is the Hotel Quarantine System, every outbreak has come from failings in it. There needs to be a solution to quarantine overseas arrivals in remote locations away from population centres without workers mixing with the general population. Maybe I’m simplistic but this is where the weakest link is, why not fix it? While you import active cases of the virus into the middle of our Capital cities I see this Wash, Rinse, repeat continuing until early 2022. 2021 is going to be if anything worse than last year with this bunch of inert politicians around.
Feds don’t want to spend the money. Hotels that would be usually full of international travellers are empty so cheaper to put returnees there and service those hotels with cheap migrant labour working two jobs to get by, than create temporary remote quarantine with a higher paid FIFO workforce.
Why all the bickering? Who cares about states and their premiers, they are basically pawns on a chess board. Perth, Brisbane they will be next, it will get out regardless. The weakest link in this whole mess is the Hotel Quarantine System, every outbreak has come from failings in it. There needs to be a solution to quarantine overseas arrivals in remote locations away from population centres without workers mixing with the general population. Maybe I’m simplistic but this is where the weakest link is, why not fix it? While you import active cases of the virus into the middle of our Capital cities I see this Wash, Rinse, repeat continuing until early 2022. 2021 is going to be if anything worse than last year with this bunch of inert politicians around.
I thought Dan had a solid rock plan for covid even employing a covid commander to oversee it. Hard border closure now they’re running for the hills in Victoria. You would think tho, after the last mess up they had they would be prepared but typical labour gov can’t prepare for anything this is why WA closes ASAP when one case occurs they can’t cope either.
Victoria testing centers close being un able to keep up that is madness at its best, they want ppl to get tested but can’t test ppl. What is Dan doing down there, nothing obviously!
Victoria testing centers close being un able to keep up that is madness at its best, they want ppl to get tested but can’t test ppl. What is Dan doing down there, nothing obviously!
She doesnt want to stop people going to the cricket because it might inconvenience them,oh how nice of her.
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So because Dan makes ppl wear mask and locks them up for 111 days, he is doing a great job?
Isnt the aim to keep the numbers as low as possible?,that it seems is what is in place now but the virus hasnt gone away so we need to all do everything possible to achieve that whether u vote lib or lab not really important right now.
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Remember back in July when Perth Stadium was to host 22,000 and lots of reservations about it. That was when Perth was getting negligible community cases a day (maybe zero, I can’t find the data.)
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/af...217c9175131b19
Meanwhile at the SCG fans are being asked to “cheer quietly”. Yeah that will work after a few schooners. Am I the only pessimist here? Great if they pull it off, but it will go down as one of the stupidest decisions in history if it fuels the fire.
https://www.reuters.com/article/cric...-idINKBN2940EN
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You make a very fine point Blubak.
Keep the numbers low that was the sim back in March NSW has been doing that everyone else seems eradication is the aim now. Never going to happen as long as international arrivals are coming business remain open and ppl move around.
Now we have 7 individual country’s on one island that have different ideas normality will never return.
Keep the numbers low that was the sim back in March NSW has been doing that everyone else seems eradication is the aim now. Never going to happen as long as international arrivals are coming business remain open and ppl move around.
Now we have 7 individual country’s on one island that have different ideas normality will never return.
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We are lucky to have the ability here to cross check
The problem is the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) is expected to grant full approval to one or more of the vaccines sometime this month, yet the federal government’s rollout plan isn’t starting until March and won’t be completed until October. All this time and they haven’t made a comprehensive plan for storage, transport, public education, testing sites, staff etc. They haven’t pumped as many resources into the TGA to expedite proper vaccine rollout. As other nations have shown it can be rolled out quickly, our government just don’t want to spend the money or something else.
Airlines should be lobbying them to help distribute it as quick as possible.
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There was an interview done by the QLD CHO I think that described the rollout as one of the biggest logistical exercises ever done. Australia is one of the most decentralised populations in the world. Don't forget some communities in regional Australia don't even have a hospital with doctors.. Israel couldn't be more than 1/20th of the land mass.
Traditionally government is not great at large projects (remember the census...). I know it is upsetting for those in aviation (myself included), but I'd rather them take an extra few weeks to sort out the logistics and supply chain and try and get it right. The alternative is an almost certain clusterf#ck. I think Australia also has a much better chance of higher community coverage and take up by going through the proper channels rather than emergency protocols.
You have to remember for lots of the public (especially WA and QLD where little to no effort is being put into social distancing anymore), the virus is not impacting life and they are skeptical as to why they should even bother with the vaccine.. There was an article for Singapore or Korea where only 50% said they would bother with the vaccine due to skepticism about the emergency protocols. That would be a worst case scenario here. The same thing happened at the height of the first wave with the Covidsafe app, now a white elephant. Govt only has once chance to get it right with the population, and I think in this case they are spot on.
Traditionally government is not great at large projects (remember the census...). I know it is upsetting for those in aviation (myself included), but I'd rather them take an extra few weeks to sort out the logistics and supply chain and try and get it right. The alternative is an almost certain clusterf#ck. I think Australia also has a much better chance of higher community coverage and take up by going through the proper channels rather than emergency protocols.
You have to remember for lots of the public (especially WA and QLD where little to no effort is being put into social distancing anymore), the virus is not impacting life and they are skeptical as to why they should even bother with the vaccine.. There was an article for Singapore or Korea where only 50% said they would bother with the vaccine due to skepticism about the emergency protocols. That would be a worst case scenario here. The same thing happened at the height of the first wave with the Covidsafe app, now a white elephant. Govt only has once chance to get it right with the population, and I think in this case they are spot on.
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If they don’t get vaccine messaging right they will find themselves with millions of people refusing it. Vast majority of people who don’t want ordinarily take vaccines and give them to their kids. How does rushing the rollout and approval alleviate their concerns.
Blocking interstate travel is fine if 5% refuse but if 70% refuse then what are you going to do? Will be hilarious when Alan’s only customers are bedwetting boomers.
Blocking interstate travel is fine if 5% refuse but if 70% refuse then what are you going to do? Will be hilarious when Alan’s only customers are bedwetting boomers.
We have no jab no play. That’s worked, and flu vaccine uptake was around 70% for 2020. Employers will make it mandatory, schools will make it mandatory, it’ll be mandatory to travel, the elderly and vulnerable will desire it. The vast majority of people aren’t anti-vaxxers, unless influential people with an agenda are allowed to perpetuate that message in the media.
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Employers can enforce vaccinations re write of policy include covid vaccination. All of us here that work for QF or JQ have had Hep B, Measles, Rubella and chicken pox vaccinations these are all a requirements employment well it was for me anyway.