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Old 20th Dec 2020, 09:05
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Operations from all airlines now starting to cancel flights into SYD.
I didnít expect anything less. I think January is cactus for NSW based crew. Even for McIdiot over in the West and Dictator Dan who had a smug smirk on his face whilst very proudly locking Sydney out will feel the effects. QLD TAS and SA well those poor ppl will be ruined. Like it or not or want to accept it Sydney/NSW really prop up the tourism/travel industry. Iíve seen it first hand in the last two months.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 09:10
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Gladys and the NSW CMO were a bit mousy about who was and wasn't exempt from quarantine requirements. There might be some fuel here.

Department Of Foreign Affairs staff not required to quarantine on arrival.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 09:26
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
I didnít expect anything less. I think January is cactus for NSW based crew. Even for McIdiot over in the West and Dictator Dan who had a smug smirk on his face whilst very proudly locking Sydney out will feel the effects. QLD TAS and SA well those poor ppl will be ruined. Like it or not or want to accept it Sydney/NSW really prop up the tourism/travel industry. Iíve seen it first hand in the last two months.
The amount of aircraft based in Melbourne and Brisbane that cycle in/out of a Sydney is quite significant. Sydney gone and up to half the work for some carriers from Sydney and Melbourne bases also.

Victoria out of action was not as severe, lost a limb. We have lost the guts essentially here.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 09:30
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Why have people got a problem with government officials, military being exempt from the hotel quarantine FFS.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 09:36
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
I didnít expect anything less. I think January is cactus for NSW based crew. Even for McIdiot over in the West and Dictator Dan who had a smug smirk on his face whilst very proudly locking Sydney out will feel the effects. QLD TAS and SA well those poor ppl will be ruined. Like it or not or want to accept it Sydney/NSW really prop up the tourism/travel industry. Iíve seen it first hand in the last two months.
I thought Gladys' 'Gold standard' contact tracing would save the day?
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 09:51
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[QUOTE=Bodie1;10950813]

I'm in NSW at the moment, I've been caught up in lockdowns but am fortunate enough to have escaped most of it, I wouldn't be anywhere else, I'm lucky, I'm with family. I'd take Gladys in charge any day than a smug ****wit who's lucky enough to have the natural resources to keep a state afloat. Face it, you've got nothing else, a backwater really. If you left the federation no one would care.[QUOTE=Bodie1;10950813

Ahhh yes that backwater with the natural resources.....which requires a huge aviation sector, with hundreds of pilots of who have managed to keep their jobs / hours thanks to Covid being kept out of the state. We might not be flying around in flash new A380s etc, but flying the clapped out F100s, Dash 8s, 146s gives many junior pilots that first leg up in the commercial sector and has been the only bright spot during this whole Covid business.

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Old 20th Dec 2020, 10:19
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
I thought Gladys' 'Gold standard' contact tracing would save the day?
Its been three days mate. If this was Victoria it would be 300 already we have all seen it before. Contact tracing has at least identified all origins except 3. Patient zero which they suspect has left the country and the two today which are not a concern as they are in the LGA of the original cluster.

Sydney being out of action will have a big effect on airline/tourism but not the same as pre October as at least Vic SA TAS NT QLD can travel. But they will all notice NSW/SY not traveling.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 10:31
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
I thought Gladys' 'Gold standard' contact tracing would save the day?
it may still. However the borders, now theyíre shut arenít opening for a few weeks minimum. Damage done. Unfortunate timing.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 10:41
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
Dictator Dan who had a smug smirk on his face whilst very proudly locking Sydney out
When the heat is off and he can point the blame at someone else, heís almost giddy with glee! Thereíll be a puff piece in the papers about how heíd never let his mother go to Sydney or some other PR garbage...the cult of Dan is alive and well in Victoria province.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 10:48
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Even though Iíve probably done it myself.....

..... maybe time for us all to cool off a bit. The conversation is getting a bit heated and itís becoming a case of state v state, left v right, Lib v lab, no one would miss you if you left etc. Itís been bad enough this year without anonymous people in the industry weíre meant to have a lifelong passion for yelling at each other for no real benefit.

Letís just be thankful at Christmas we donít have a country with an out of control pandemic raging and people dying en masse.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 10:49
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Enough of the interstate animosity already. Its juvenile.

Standard practice to throw up a cordon around affected areas. Its called containment.

Or would you prefer all areas affected?

Chances are, every state will have its turn at an outbreak.

If it can be limited to one state at a time, the nation as a whole can continue to function and provide support for the affected state.



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Old 20th Dec 2020, 11:02
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Already see a difference between Dan and Gladys.

Dan is Labor = hard lockdown = sever the economy.
Gladys is Liberal = minimal lockdown = keep the economy flowing.

Interesting contrast. Time will tell what's the best option.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 11:14
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080
Already see a difference between Dan and Gladys.

Dan is Labor = hard lockdown = sever the economy.
Gladys is Liberal = minimal lockdown = keep the economy flowing.

Interesting contrast. Time will tell what's the best option.
Alternately, Hard Border = NO lockdown = economy unaffected

Except we all know its not that simple in any of the examples given.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 11:21
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That's awesome for you. What comes across quite often from West Australians is the smug 'we're in near total freedom.' Well you've got that because you've got an insular clown who is lucky enough to have remote borders and a state that virtually no Australian wants to be in apart from West Australians. Your state has always had a massive chip on its shoulder and you now see payback. What Mc****wit does, anybody could do. What Gladys, Hazzard & Chant does is try and manage the virus holistically, it's obvious they are trying to manage the virus, the economy and people's mental health.



I'm in NSW at the moment, I've been caught up in lockdowns but am fortunate enough to have escaped most of it, I wouldn't be anywhere else, I'm lucky, I'm with family. I'd take Gladys in charge any day than a smug ****wit who's lucky enough to have the natural resources to keep a state afloat. Face it, you've got nothing else, a backwater really. If you left the federation no one would care.
If you donít want to be in WA.. donít come here. Why all the anger?
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 11:28
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Originally Posted by Bodie1
That's awesome for you. What comes across quite often from West Australians is the smug 'we're in near total freedom.' Well you've got that because you've got an insular clown who is lucky enough to have remote borders and a state that virtually no Australian wants to be in apart from West Australians. Your state has always had a massive chip on its shoulder and you now see payback. What Mc****wit does, anybody could do. What Gladys, Hazzard & Chant does is try and manage the virus holistically, it's obvious they are trying to manage the virus, the economy and people's mental health.



I'm in NSW at the moment, I've been caught up in lockdowns but am fortunate enough to have escaped most of it, I wouldn't be anywhere else, I'm lucky, I'm with family. I'd take Gladys in charge any day than a smug ****wit who's lucky enough to have the natural resources to keep a state afloat. Face it, you've got nothing else, a backwater really. If you left the federation no one would care.
If you donít want to be in WA.. donít come here. Why all the anger?
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 11:34
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Alternately, Hard Border = NO lockdown = economy unaffected

Except we all know its not that simple in any of the examples given.
unaffected for some particularly if selling rocks to.
china. Resource companies run WA.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 16:38
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As the night goes on .. it looks like not only WA is closing the border to NSW.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 17:57
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
I thought Gladys' 'Gold standard' contact tracing would save the day?
it still will. Itís only 4 days since the cluster became evident. There were 30 new cases yesterday, 28 which were immediately linked to the cluster and 2 more that werenít far away from.

For perspective in Vics 2nd wave Dan started locking down suburbs when the daily new cases hit 75 and more than half of those had no known link, the response here by Gladys has been much quicker.

The short memories Iíve seen by some victorians have been incredible. Especially considering NSW took ALL their HQ arrivals so that they could sort out their backyard and gave every opportunity for them to get on top of.. it wasnít until new cases were in the hundreds that the border was shut last time.

2 days of low double figures and youíve got Dan joining the rest of the border idiots. Way to help your mates..
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 19:06
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Originally Posted by currawong
Enough of the interstate animosity already. Its juvenile.

Standard practice to throw up a cordon around affected areas. Its called containment.

Or would you prefer all areas affected?

Chances are, every state will have its turn at an outbreak.

If it can be limited to one state at a time, the nation as a whole can continue to function and provide support for the affected state.
Nobody in their right mind wants any borders closed,its time people saw the real reason for their closure instead of going some ridiculous revenge theory.
Nobody can deny how well NSW has managed this virus & even now despite not making masks mandatory they are doing everything to get it under control as quickly as possible.
Instead of accusing Andrews of being happy about closing the border & smirking as he announced it why not consider the massive risk involved if he doesnt.
The flow of people heading south would be out of control & if just a couple of them were infected it could well be the start of another disaster here in vic.
The anger of NSW people should be directed at the 2 boomers who thought the law didnt apply to them,they need to be singled out & made pay in the highest way possible.
Lots of people in vic dont like Andrews as im sure lots in nsw dont like Gladys but we have to accept their decisions & here in vic we have paid dearly for 1 really bad decision he made but right now i think the vast majority support his decision to close the border & in reality the option of doing nothing could spell disaster.
Lets hope the numbers over the next few days let us all enjoy xmas in the best way.
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Old 20th Dec 2020, 19:19
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Originally Posted by blubak

The anger of NSW people should be directed at the 2 boomers who thought the law didnt apply to them,they need to be singled out & made pay in the highest way possible.
I couldn't agree more, these two need to have the full extent of the law thrown at them. I still don't understand the point of public health orders if there is no retribution for breaking them. They are meaningless really.

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