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Old 15th Nov 2020, 20:16
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I hope the PM, who by now needs to grow a set and step in gives WA a lot of pressure, Maybe not actually the closure only got a 5 second mention on the news here on the East.

In lighter more interesting news Qantas turns 100 today and Queen P up in the wicked North is celebrating hosting the largest sporting crowd in the world for 2020 Wednesday night. Go the Blues.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 20:43
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
Appears likely haven't won the senate.

If Trump was so bad and the Democrats platform so good why didn't they get the clean sweep and absolute control?
Because not enough people voted for them.

Why......??
I'm sorry, can you point me in the direction of a GOP senate majority?
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 20:51
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Originally Posted by Ladloy View Post
I'm sorry, can you point me in the direction of a GOP senate majority?
Can you point me in the direction of a Democrat senate majority?

Happy to be corrected but figures I see indicate GOP 50, DEM 46 and OTHER 2 so GOP have the block numbers to say NO NO NO at will, DEMs do NOT have the block numbers to pass legislation unhindered.
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
Can you point me in the direction of a Democrat senate majority?

Happy to be corrected but figures I see indicate GOP 50, DEM 46 and OTHER 2 so GOP have the block numbers to say NO NO NO at will, DEMs do NOT have the block numbers to pass legislation unhindered.
There's two more elections as a run off for the senate and Harris also has a vote in the senate as VP. The independents are Bernie Sanders and Angus King who caucus for Democrat. Never said democrats won, but dispelling the lies above saying Republicans won.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 21:17
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SA is on the increase. 3, then 4 yesterday, and now 17 cases which I'm guessing are all community transmission. Known community transmission, but still community transmission nonetheless. How it got out of the medi-hotel will raise questions, from what I've read Patient Zero worked there and brought it home to her family.

South Australia's worst cluster to date has gone from bad to worse with 17 cases now tied to the family outbreak.

Speaking to Adelaide’s 5AA Radio this morning, South Australia’s chief public health officer Dr Nicola Spurrier confirmed the Parafield cluster was growing at a rapid rate.

Hungry Jacks Port Adelaide has also been closed and is the latest venue to shut for deep cleanign.

Dr Spurrier described the outbreak as “very serious”.

South Australia yesterday reported three local coronavirus cases among a family that has members working in hotel quarantine, aged and health care and a large prison.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 21:20
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Originally Posted by Ladloy View Post
Just like how the feds essentially neglected aged care and Victorians suffered the consequences for it. More to the story than just a bunch of security personnel.
yes that explains why the aged care deaths in other states is so high
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Old 16th Nov 2020, 00:32
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Originally Posted by chookcooker View Post
yes that explains why the aged care deaths in other states is so high
Newmarch house?
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Old 16th Nov 2020, 00:48
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WA Health Minister being interviewed at the moment. From the way he is speaking, I would not be surprised if the WA border is closed again today.
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Old 16th Nov 2020, 01:40
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Doubtful that any reasonable person (in WA) would tempt a holiday or family reunion involving interstate travel now with the threat of 14 days isolation without income on return.
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Originally Posted by Ladloy View Post
Just like how the feds essentially neglected aged care and Victorians suffered the consequences for it. More to the story than just a bunch of security personnel.
What? Did the Feds ‘neglect’ age care ONLY in Victoria?

That argument makes no sense at all.
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Old 16th Nov 2020, 04:36
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Originally Posted by Ladloy View Post
Newmarch house?
17 deaths. A tragedy.
now do that for vic aged care deaths.
in fact do a bar graph of aged care deaths by state and make sure to leave a tonne of room on the y axis for when you get to Victoria.
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Old 16th Nov 2020, 04:38
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Originally Posted by Ladloy View Post
There's two more elections as a run off for the senate and Harris also has a vote in the senate as VP. The independents are Bernie Sanders and Angus King who caucus for Democrat. Never said democrats won, but dispelling the lies above saying Republicans won.
under what circumstances does the VP get a vote in the senate??
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Old 16th Nov 2020, 05:17
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Originally Posted by chookcooker View Post
under what circumstances does the VP get a vote in the senate??
As the tie breaker in case of a 50-50 split.
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Doubtful that any reasonable person (in WA) would tempt a holiday or family reunion involving interstate travel now with the threat of 14 days isolation without income on return.
Bunch of tourist X ADL arrived in CNS by air just after the announcement of QLD imposing Border restrictions on those from SA. Apparently the Holiday has now turned from fun in the sun to enduring 14 days Quarantine.

Would your risk leisure airline travel anywhere in AUS with the State Premiers closing borders at the slightest hint of Covid?
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Originally Posted by Ladloy View Post
There's two more elections as a run off for the senate and Harris also has a vote in the senate as VP. The independents are Bernie Sanders and Angus King who caucus for Democrat. Never said democrats won, but dispelling the lies above saying Republicans won.
That's fine, presently the GOP has control of the Senate - but that could change....or not.

Point was if there was so much feeling against GOP/Trump the DEMs should have had a great chance to win all 3 (Whitehouse/Reps/Senate) with clear majorities - that didn't happen.

Why??

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Originally Posted by Square Bear View Post

Would your risk leisure airline travel anywhere in AUS with the State Premiers closing borders at the slightest hint of Covid?
Not the Birthday present for Qantas that AJ was hoping for
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And as I predicted, WA border now closed to SA.
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Originally Posted by JustinHeywood View Post
What? Did the Feds ‘neglect’ age care ONLY in Victoria?

That argument makes no sense at all.
They neglect it right across the country,the operators want to make big profits out of it & they achieve it by being allowed to employ a casualised workforce at the lowest pay possible.
Of course the hotel quarantine caused a lot of it but dont forget who controls the aged care system,the conditions are not unique to victoria.
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
That's fine, presently the GOP has control of the Senate - but that could change....or not.

Point was if there was so much feeling against GOP/Trump the DEMs should have had a great chance to win all 3 (Whitehouse/Reps/Senate) with clear majorities - that didn't happen.

Why??
Less populated states are over represented in the US senate, just like the electoral college doesn't reflect how big Biden's win was. Just by raw votes it's the biggest margin since Reagan.
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There’s a real question that needs to be asked.

The two significant outbreaks in Australia (Melbourne and now Adelaide) have come as a result of international arrival hotel quarantine breakouts. Regardless of procedures used it’s too much of a risk to house arrivals in hotels in the middle of major cities and allow workers at the hotel and dealing with the arrivals to be in the same environment and then wander freely around these packed cities on their time off.

Unless we want to have this problem continue to re-occur over the next 12 months, it’s time to lobby the Federal Government to direct all arrivals to remote facilities (ie Alice Springs or Christmas Island) or have them in full facilities/camps on the outskirts of major cities with a requirement for staff dealing with them to themselves be housed in that facility for the duration of their employment.

Otherwise all of us won’t be able to handle this lack of certainty over the next 12 months.
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