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Old 18th Jun 2018, 11:28
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It’s not that long to a window seat. Plenty of movement.

30 years to practice them what’s the rush, enjoy cheap American clothes!
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 05:36
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Originally Posted by Berealgetreal View Post
It’s not that long to a window seat. Plenty of movement.

30 years to practice them what’s the rush, enjoy cheap American clothes!
Indeed. There are worse places to spend a night or two - Manhattan beach or Malibu. What puzzles me is the extreme test of mental agility involved in choosing a bond duration -

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777 and 737 has a 45k bond 36mths
ATR is 20k 3 Years
A320 is 30k 3 Years
F100 is 25k 3 years
It seems obvious that the 36 month bond on the 73 or 777 is the smart move. Far shorter than the 3 years on the the other aircraft. Perhaps analyzing the difference between months and years is the final test of cognition required by the Virgin HR ladies, that determine which of the group of seemingly all female applicants will make the grade





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Old 19th Jun 2018, 09:52
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JPJP, your obvious frivolity aside, the reason for the different terminology is the ATR, F100 and A320 (VARA) bonds are Skywest originated and the 737 and 777 were virgin blue originated - the VB bond originally being 30 months.
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 21:03
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Originally Posted by Snakecharma View Post
JPJP, your obvious frivolity aside, the reason for the different terminology is the ATR, F100 and A320 (VARA) bonds are Skywest originated and the 737 and 777 were virgin blue originated - the VB bond originally being 30 months.
Interesting. That makes sense. And youíre right, when I saw those bond terms - I just couldnít help myself
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Old 20th Jun 2018, 04:27
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So the F100 would be pick of the bunch if you had your eye on another carrier. Times have changed.
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Old 20th Jun 2018, 05:31
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30 years to practice them whatís the rush, enjoy cheap American clothes!
I would have thought thereís more fun things to do on LA overnights, often involving a lack of clothing
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Old 20th Jun 2018, 07:01
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Whats with HR these days ? They are like Paris Hilton , they are there because they say they are important ? Qantas , TAA and Ansett all started and run by airline people . The chief pilot put you under the spot light and your mates vouched for you . Now a 25 YO uni grad does not like your tone and your done ! Canít see how itís an improvement ?
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Old 20th Jun 2018, 07:18
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Originally Posted by Toruk Macto View Post
Whats with HR these days ? They are like Paris Hilton , they are there because they say they are important ? Qantas , TAA and Ansett all started and run by airline people . The chief pilot put you under the spot light and your mates vouched for you . Now a 25 YO uni grad does not like your tone and your done ! Canít see how itís an improvement ?
Will come back to bite them in the end. But yes, theyíve really made a mess of things.
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Old 12th Jul 2018, 23:35
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Any word from the hold file?
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 09:11
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Looks like Vara are recruiting DECs for Perth. There must have been pilots in the group who would have been interested in this position rather than recruiting externally?

https://www.iacglobal.com/job-listin...ns-type-rated/
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 11:02
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David Clarke, it's a 12 month contract, so jobless after 12 months or F100 Effo at best
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Old 15th Jul 2018, 03:33
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Yeah those 25 yo HR idiots that wouldn’t know the front end of a 737 from a Tractor telling us who makes a good Pilot and who doesn’t.....what bs.
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Old 15th Jul 2018, 07:56
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Any word from the hold file?
Had an email Friday for 73 in NZ but unfortunately can't make the move. This is the second time I have received this offer in 6 months since being in the hold. I told them during the interview back in November last year that NZ wasn't an option for me and the 777 is my only avenue. Not sure whats happening when you choose your preferences. Doesn't seem to make a difference.
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Old 15th Jul 2018, 11:17
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Paul Alfred, they make the offer irrespective of your stated “preference” as people often change their minds and get the shits when they offer the job to someone else “I would have taken that” besides preferences are just that preferences. They also ask you for your preferred base and that is not guaranteed either.

While moving to NZ might be a challenge getting on to the seniority list is, in my opinion, the highest priority.

The list dictates how your career progresses once you are in the airline, so while where you start might be important now, where you finish is probably more important. With so few widebody aeroplanes the bigger aircraft are more likely to be crewed by those further up the seniority list. The later you join the list the lower you are.





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Old 15th Jul 2018, 22:27
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Originally Posted by Snakecharma View Post
The list dictates how your career progresses once you are in the airline
Unless you are on the ATR that is
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 00:36
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One would reasonably expect the 'cap' to be removed from the new EBA currently in negotiation. A substantial increase in salary and general conditions is also expected to appease the current ATR crew. If these aren't addressed then expect an exodus of the senior crew off the ATR (which would have a very negative effect on the sustainability of the ATR fleet as a whole)
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 03:31
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Belongamick, even with a cap the seniority list dictates where you end up.

The cap might hold people on the atr for a while but it doesn’t slide their seniority, so to the point I was making, someone might spend a few years on the atr, but they will still have the number to get something else like a widebody later in their career.

A later number ultimately means more in front of you for those positions later on.
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 06:22
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Originally Posted by Paul Alfred View Post
Had an email Friday for 73 in NZ but unfortunately can't make the move. This is the second time I have received this offer in 6 months since being in the hold. I told them during the interview back in November last year that NZ wasn't an option for me and the 777 is my only avenue. Not sure whats happening when you choose your preferences. Doesn't seem to make a difference.
Paul, there are a number of crew in NZ who seem to make commuting from Oz work. Donít know your circumstances, but perhaps it is worth looking into.
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 09:24
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Paul, there are a number of crew in NZ who seem to make commuting from Oz work. Donít know your circumstances, but perhaps it is worth looking into.
Cheers Oakape. Appreciate that. I hear it is a good gig.
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 08:32
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Man of Steel (sorry couldn't resist) ClarkeKent - I would be very surprised if VA 737 direct entry 737 positions opened up again in the short term, there are a bunch of SO's coming off freeze who have bids in for the 73, so I would expect them to get first crack.

There seems to be a bunch of new 777 SO's out and about lately so there have been a few courses done by the seems of it.
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