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Old 4th Nov 2016, 04:35
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I have heard of externals getting a no, and others being invited to next stage. Maybe we all got a ranking from the online interview etc and they are chipping away from both ends?
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Group employees had priority to apply.

Now it's been opened to everyone.

I don't think it was said that they would give up the right to choose who they want, except to some 24 yo idiot in HR but that's another conversation
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 04:51
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There's a big difference between what was rumoured internally, what was officially stated internally, what is internal policy and what is wishful thinking!
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 04:55
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Exactly EY....I think it's all very political but at least it's a step in the right direction to allowing internals a 'shot' at moving over...big change in thinking over the past 10 years OR is it a carrot to try and stem the flow of guys leaving to EK / Air NZ / CX etc as they know they're chance of getting into mainline is slim..
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Originally Posted by Aussie Fo
Group employees had priority to apply.

Now it's been opened to everyone.

I don't think it was said that they would give up the right to choose who they want, except to some 24 yo idiot in HR but that's another conversation
Just out of curiosity, are they still an idiot if they offer you a job?

I feel for the internals being held back, however I think you will find it would have been a condition of internals getting a look in being on the proviso that any one resource group could not be drained more than x %. It's still better than previously being overlooked.

For those that haven't heard anything yet, no news I suppose is good news. Hang in there and best of luck to all of you.
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 05:11
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Common sense should prevail here. To put it in simple terms, QF Group accountants would argue against the prioritisation of mainline recruitment to QF Group internal pilots due to the cost involved of replacing that internal pilot. Also QF mainline HR/FLT OPS would argue the fact that they would be limiting their target audience and potentially lose more suitably qualified applicants for the position.
Lastly, subsidiary airline FLT OPS would argue against prioritising towards internal applicants due to current shortage of crew. So the fairest, easiest and most economic way of mainline recruitment, would be, in my opinion, applications open to everyone, not discriminating because you are internal/external and overall, based on merit, which is what is stated on their website.
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 07:08
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Originally Posted by Open Descent
Just out of curiosity, are they still an idiot if they offer you a job?

I feel for the internals being held back, however I think you will find it would have been a condition of internals getting a look in being on the proviso that any one resource group could not be drained more than x %. It's still better than previously being overlooked.

For those that haven't heard anything yet, no news I suppose is good news. Hang in there and best of luck to all of you.
No internals have been held back as of yet. The process haven't every truly started yet so we have no idea how this will all pan out.
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External's have just heard back. Interview's on the 15th.
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what am I applying for

A new mega 'group' app is advertised. Does this mean those of us who applied for the first SO slots are now going to be considered for jq/link/network/efa etc?
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 20:49
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Originally Posted by bose1
External's have just heard back. Interview's on the 15th.
bose1 - So how many have you heard?
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 21:19
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Mra

It should have what position in the email. On my email it says SO
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Old 4th Nov 2016, 21:54
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Thanks Density

Ok, so if my first app was for the SO positions advertised in Oct, im an external - ME based - and am still waiting on pass/fail from the psych testing can i assume that ill be considered for JQ/EFA other group?
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Not sure on that...I think they make up the rules as they go.
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Old 5th Nov 2016, 02:02
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Mra3xx,

If you click on the link in the add, it'll take you to the careers page and you can select which group entity you want to apply for.
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Snogh - so far 4. Also 3 of them have also done the QLink interview/sim recently.
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Old 6th Nov 2016, 00:04
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JQ tried this trick...

Apply for Jetstar in Australia get offered Singapore, New Zealand et al...

Funny that didn't work so well for JQ either.
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Technical stage?

There is none is there?
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 03:07
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Technical stage?

There is none is there?
I've heard that HR have banned technical questions as they can't understand them.

When is corporate Australia going to wake up and realise the HR empire for what it is? An useless impediment to effective operation.

I notice, on the Qantas corporate tree, the Chief Pilot is 4 rungs below the head of HR. Or for that matter Olivia Wirthless. Both of which are level with the CEOs of International, Domestic and Loyalty.

Kind of gives you some perspective as to who's running recruiting.
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HR = Business Cancer.

It starts off small, then spreads to all the vital organs. After that, you can't get rid of it without killing the host.
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Kind of gives you some perspective as to who's running recruiting.
That would be the talent acquisition specialists who advise HR. So yes...flight ops is way down.
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