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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 01:03
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Originally Posted by Berealgetreal

NARROW BODY Q's:
Can I ask, are allowances on top of that? Say 15k cash?
How many days at home per 28 days are you getting?
I assume you'd be clearing about 10-11k a month.
How much duty per month/annum or stick per year?
$15k in allowances is about right. Single day trip allowances are taxed, multi day trips tax free. Depending on what sort of flying you do, I'd work on about half of the $15k being tax free. It's not shown separately on our group certificates anymore so hard to work out a yearly amount without adding up individual payslips.

Minimum 10 days per 28 at home, but if you're at the top of the bidding rotation and doing high density flying you can be home for closer to 18/28 and only work 9-10 as Keg said. You can also elect to work on those extra days off for extra $

$10k clear/month is about right for 1st year F/O, can give more accurate numbers if you need them from the EBA.

I've averaged a little under 800hrs stick a year in the past 5 years.

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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 02:21
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Bridging courses

I failed Maths /Physics at school.

Getting a job in QF was my ultimate professional dream. I enjoyed the road there,,,, Cape York bush pilot then Regional Turboprop. What I yearned for though was financial security, to fly well maintained equipment, to be trained by some of the best in the Profession, an opportunity to contribute to a proud 90 year history, an Australian Capital City base to finally put down roots, finally be able to commit fully to finding love, get married and live happily ever after. Happy to report 20 years later I still thank my younger self for having the drive, dream, tenacity and courage to put in the hard (but enjoyable nevertheless) yards. It's been all I hoped for.

Whilst others bitched and moaned or partied their young days away I did Steve Holdings Maths over a 4 week annual holiday and completed a Physics bridging course with Rocky Uni via correspondence. I consciously surrounded myself with like minded individuals with positive outlooks and goals.

My personal motto was (borrowed from the World Cup winning Wallabies of the day)

"Long after the pain is forgotten - the quality remains"

A job in QF doesn't come easy. QF wants highly motivated self starting individuals.

Can't be bothered doing everything it takes to get a shot at the title?

(You can't say you haven't had enough time to get everything organised)

You're not what QF is looking for then IMHO.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 04:10
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QF wants highly motivated self starting individuals.
Hold a current CASA Class 1 Medical Certificate
So how does a highly motivated Aussie individual stuck in the sandpit with a current GCAA medical apply for this position?
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 04:35
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I don't know.

You're the one with the incentive to find out.

Have you taken the first step and called / contacted the appropriate individuals in CASA / QF to ascertain an answer?

My younger self without hesitation would have booked an Avmed exam online and flew to Aus on days off to tick the box after confirming this was the only option available.

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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 04:37
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Originally Posted by EY_Airbus View Post
So how does a highly motivated Aussie individual stuck in the sandpit with a current GCAA medical apply for this position?
Motivated enough to check the CASA website?

Designated Aviation Medical Examiners - Overseas
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 04:48
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Keg,

I don't think lee_apromise's query is that clear cut, I have had the same one for a few months.

Holding a CASA CPL MEIR and the 7 ATPL conversion exam credits leaves you with the flight test to sit to obtain the license.

Holding a foreign ATPL MEIR and the 2 ATPL foreign conversion exam credits also leaves you with the flight test to sit to obtain the license.

Two candidates with either qualifications are in same position with respect to obtaining their ATPL when time permits.

Now I understand there is a difference in theory content between the two avenues - not necessarily lesser - just different, depending on which overseas ATPL syllabus you have completed.

The QF website now only states passed the 'ATPL aeronautical knowledge examination' or similar words. This leaves is open to interpretation as to what theory credits are acceptable.

I have queried a number of other major Aussie carriers recruitment departments and their reply has generally been, 'apply and we will consider your application on an individual basis'. Not so clear cut.

It would be great if someone has a definitive answer or has an experience to share regarding this?
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 05:03
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Holding a CASA CPL MEIR and the 7 ATPL conversion exam credits leaves you with the flight test to sit to obtain the license.

Holding a foreign ATPL MEIR and the 2 ATPL foreign conversion exam credits also leaves you with the flight test to sit to obtain the license.

Two candidates with either qualifications are in same position with respect to obtaining their ATPL when time permits.
That's what I meant. The wording on QF recruitment website is vague enough for different interpretation.

Just to be clear, to be in the same boat as traditional CASA CPL/MEIR + 7 ATPL subjects, ICAO ATPL holder must have CASA CPL with MEIR with passes in AOSA and AHUF.

When does QF S/O receive ATPL flight test? Is it done concurrently with their type rating if one meets Part 61 ATPL minimum flight experience?

I emailed QF and am waiting for their reply. It would be nice to know a definitive answer for Australians working in overseas with ICAO ATPL for future reference.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 05:07
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I don't think QF do your ATPL flight test. Anyone?
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 05:09
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Originally Posted by CaptCloudbuster View Post
I don't know.

You're the one with the incentive to find out.

Have you taken the first step and called / contacted the appropriate individuals in CASA / QF to ascertain an answer?

My younger self without hesitation would have booked an Avmed exam online and flew to Aus on days off to tick the box after confirming this was the only option available.
Whoa......saw the expression of interest thing late Friday...it's now the weekend....QF or CASA surely not opened on the weekend. Thought I'd give myself a head start by asking on here first. Thanks anyways for the answer
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 06:12
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I'm applying. EK 777 captain. My mates are too.....
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 06:31
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Motley,

It would be great to see many of you back here.
Lifestyle is great, money is good, not doing 100+ stick hours, no back of the clock night returns to the sub continent, no armed escorts to your hotel to/from some airports, and you will have a life expectancy past 60years old.

Good luck with the application!
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 06:34
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Happy to be corrected, but don't believe any regulatory sims/checks conducted in QF can be counted as an ATPL flight test. It needs to be done off your own back.
If you are working overseas, its not as simple as some make it sound, esp. if your test needs to take place in one of the heavy jet sims.

A mute point, but can anyone shed light on QF staff travel policy / benefits?
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 06:53
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Originally Posted by motley flight crue View Post
I'm applying. EK 777 captain. My mates are too.....
Hey Motley check your PM
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 11:01
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Qantas will do the flight test for ATPL when they require one for your promotion course. Longhaul F/O or Shorthaul Command if you have not already got one.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 11:35
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Ok. Thanks for the clarification re the issues WRT the Aussie ATPL. If someone can PM me a synopsis I'll cut and paste it,top and tail it and try and get a definitive answer.

Further, on Friday and this morning the link that says register your EOI doesn't yet show up Trainee S/O when you search it. The intent was to not go live for external applicants until later this coming week. In the mean time the website was updated with current information and was supposed to say to expect the EOIs to open soon. The link was added before the vacancies have been 'opened' in the Taleo job site.

Expect it after Wednesday. I'll update more when I know.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 12:14
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Sorry to ask the same question twice but would a post grad Masters degree in a science related subject cover the education requirement without the Bachelor degree?

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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 12:35
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Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing View Post
Sorry to ask the same question twice but would a post grad Masters degree in a science related subject cover the education requirement without the Batchelor degree?
Probably wouldn't get through HR. Sorry to disappoint...
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 14:20
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Originally Posted by bangbounceboeing View Post
Sorry to ask the same question twice but would a post grad Masters degree in a science related subject cover the education requirement without the Batchelor degree?
I agree with V-jet, merely for the fact you repeatedly spelled "Bachelor" incorrectly.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 15:18
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On the bright side, for those who leave EK to QF-be it the LWOP guys or experienced Captains, at least there will actually be some international experience in the cockpit again on a QF flight, something that has been sadly lacking in QF since it withdrew from most international routes.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 15:29
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On the bright side, for those who leave EK to QF-be it the LWOP guys or experienced Captains, at least there will actually be some international experience in the cockpit again on a QF flight, something that has been sadly lacking in QF since it withdrew from most international routes.
QF flight decks have plenty of international experience.

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