Qantas Recruitment
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OK. An update.
The link should go live again this afternoon.
My information is that it will only be open for 10 days. That means it closes 17 Oct. Of course it will open again at some stage but my guess is depending on demand that may not be until next year.
I also understand that it will NOT be advertised in the Australian (given today's is out already and next Friday doesn't allow much time) but will be on LinkedIn. So if you know of people in the outback who don't have much access to the Internet please give them a call and let them know that they'll need to hustle.
My guess for start dates is February although there could be a couple of earlier placements in January depending on how it plays out with ex cadets being released from their respective group subsidiaries.
Good luck with the process. Remember to 'just keep swimming'.
The link should go live again this afternoon.
My information is that it will only be open for 10 days. That means it closes 17 Oct. Of course it will open again at some stage but my guess is depending on demand that may not be until next year.
I also understand that it will NOT be advertised in the Australian (given today's is out already and next Friday doesn't allow much time) but will be on LinkedIn. So if you know of people in the outback who don't have much access to the Internet please give them a call and let them know that they'll need to hustle.
My guess for start dates is February although there could be a couple of earlier placements in January depending on how it plays out with ex cadets being released from their respective group subsidiaries.
Good luck with the process. Remember to 'just keep swimming'.
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I suspect because internals aren't going to be able to be released in the numbers required. They will need to have hybrid courses from internals and externals so as to ensure the subsidiaries aren't left with even more critical shortages of crew.
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Hello everybody, wondering if somebody could help me understand these requirements for the position of SO. They want a minimum of 250 hours PIC. Excluding any 'command under supervsion'
It's the 'command under supervision' i'm not sure about, getting different definitions of it from google. Basically as a First officer on a B737-800 can I ever claim to be PIC?? Some definitions say that so long as the Captain doesn't have to intervene I can log as PIC, others say otherwise. Only have 83 hours actual PIC on single engine and Multi engine, acquired through my inital training, the rest of my time is RHS of B738. Does this exlcude me from applying??
Thanks
It's the 'command under supervision' i'm not sure about, getting different definitions of it from google. Basically as a First officer on a B737-800 can I ever claim to be PIC?? Some definitions say that so long as the Captain doesn't have to intervene I can log as PIC, others say otherwise. Only have 83 hours actual PIC on single engine and Multi engine, acquired through my inital training, the rest of my time is RHS of B738. Does this exlcude me from applying??
Thanks
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Talewind:
PIC is exactly that....pilot in command. There can only be 1 pilot in command of an aircraft. For multi crew operations this is normally the captain. As a result the min requirements are 250 hrs PIC (or 150 PIC if you have 100 hours ICUS (typically used for command upgrades etc) and either 1000 or 1500 hours co-pilot time. So in your instance where you have logged the majority of your time as copilot as long as it is more than 1000 or 1500 hours copilot, that box is ticked. Unfortunately given you have 80 odd PIC hours then you either need to somehow work out how to gain the additional 170 hours (in majority of cases) or unfortunately you would not meet the minimum requirements.
All the best.
PIC is exactly that....pilot in command. There can only be 1 pilot in command of an aircraft. For multi crew operations this is normally the captain. As a result the min requirements are 250 hrs PIC (or 150 PIC if you have 100 hours ICUS (typically used for command upgrades etc) and either 1000 or 1500 hours co-pilot time. So in your instance where you have logged the majority of your time as copilot as long as it is more than 1000 or 1500 hours copilot, that box is ticked. Unfortunately given you have 80 odd PIC hours then you either need to somehow work out how to gain the additional 170 hours (in majority of cases) or unfortunately you would not meet the minimum requirements.
All the best.
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Hello everybody, wondering if somebody could help me understand these requirements for the position of SO. They want a minimum of 250 hours PIC. Excluding any 'command under supervsion'
It's the 'command under supervision' i'm not sure about, getting different definitions of it from google. Basically as a First officer on a B737-800 can I ever claim to be PIC?? Some definitions say that so long as the Captain doesn't have to intervene I can log as PIC, others say otherwise. Only have 83 hours actual PIC on single engine and Multi engine, acquired through my inital training, the rest of my time is RHS of B738. Does this exlcude me from applying??
Thanks
It's the 'command under supervision' i'm not sure about, getting different definitions of it from google. Basically as a First officer on a B737-800 can I ever claim to be PIC?? Some definitions say that so long as the Captain doesn't have to intervene I can log as PIC, others say otherwise. Only have 83 hours actual PIC on single engine and Multi engine, acquired through my inital training, the rest of my time is RHS of B738. Does this exlcude me from applying??
Thanks
Some definitions say that so long as the Captain doesn't have to intervene I can log as PIC, others say otherwise. Only have 83 hours actual PIC on single engine and Multi engine,
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Absolutely. From what I've heard it seems like HR has got QF by the balls though. Nobody should have any confidence in their "merit based" recruitment process after they cut more than a third of the former cadets in the last recruitment drive. Most of these guys have years of experience as FOs at QLink and JQ, some even have commands yet were deemed unsuitable to sit in the back of an A330. Further insult to injury when they were told not to reapply for a year!
Why the cadets weren't just taken in after a quick check of what they'd been up to is beyond me. The treatment of the last decade (plus) worth of cadets has been utterly appalling and nobody involved in recruitment has the guts to honor their commitments to these cadets.
Why the cadets weren't just taken in after a quick check of what they'd been up to is beyond me. The treatment of the last decade (plus) worth of cadets has been utterly appalling and nobody involved in recruitment has the guts to honor their commitments to these cadets.
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Keg, thanks for keeping us up to date!
Question, if you don't mind me asking:
As I understand - command time requirements are tailored to bring in GA guys with experience. On the other hand - there will be a number of candidates like Talewind or myself who had gone through airline cadet programmes, currently employed overseas, but would like to return home.
Take my case for example: FO A321, IPC/MEAIR current, all required endorsements, flying in Europe, a bit over 1000TT, but only 85PIC. Not entirely the worst possible candidate, but unfortunately unable to apply due to command requirements. I have a feeling that this case could have been overlooked.
Perhaps you could mention this scenario to HR? ....unless it was planned to be this way
In any case - best of luck to those who can apply! Exciting times ahead!
Question, if you don't mind me asking:
As I understand - command time requirements are tailored to bring in GA guys with experience. On the other hand - there will be a number of candidates like Talewind or myself who had gone through airline cadet programmes, currently employed overseas, but would like to return home.
Take my case for example: FO A321, IPC/MEAIR current, all required endorsements, flying in Europe, a bit over 1000TT, but only 85PIC. Not entirely the worst possible candidate, but unfortunately unable to apply due to command requirements. I have a feeling that this case could have been overlooked.
Perhaps you could mention this scenario to HR? ....unless it was planned to be this way
In any case - best of luck to those who can apply! Exciting times ahead!
How commutable is an SO position?
Trips are generally dense enough to get reasonable time off in between, though higher divisors and being junior may mean getting more 3 day trips which makes commuting a bit more of a pain the backside.