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Old 1st Jul 2017, 08:40
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25 Jul, 22 Aug, 19 Sep. Every 4 weeks for the foreseeable future.
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Old 1st Jul 2017, 15:56
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Foreseeable and predicted when negotiating EBA8.
Do you mean EBA9? Predicted by whom, AIPA or Qantas
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Old 1st Jul 2017, 22:20
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Oops. Yeah. EBA9.

Predicted by every one line driver that I ever spoke to about the EBA and day one lottery! I suspect that AIPA probably called it also.
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Old 1st Jul 2017, 23:53
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The "low time" path via Qlink has started the rounds again!!
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 03:18
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Is the hold file ranked or are start dates allocated in order of interview?
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Old 2nd Jul 2017, 04:21
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Originally Posted by mrhooker View Post
How times have changed.Greater than 40 years ago following initial correspondence with QF I was given a file number. I contacted them 9 years later with AirForce time under belt and was given in quick succession flight tests and two interviews. Interviews with MANAGEMENT CAPTAINS which could only be described as open, welcoming and friendly.Final question from panel chair "Do you have any requests?" Yes I answered "can you give me as much notice as possible?" Chair rang me next day and said I had a job, just let us know the earliest you can leave the RAAF.

You mean back in the days when they knew what they were doing....
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Old 3rd Jul 2017, 02:54
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Originally Posted by _gazelle_ View Post
Is the hold file ranked or are start dates allocated in order of interview?
I asked one of the pilot interviewers that question during my assessment centre and without it being an official statement, he mentioned if you were deemed suitable to be placed on the hold file, then no further ranking would be applied.

Not withstanding, just curious to know how much time had passed since people had been notified of their hold file placement and being given a start date?
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Old 3rd Jul 2017, 03:37
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Originally Posted by Open Descent View Post
I asked one of the pilot interviewers that question during my assessment centre and without it being an official statement, he mentioned if you were deemed suitable to be placed on the hold file, then no further ranking would be applied.

Not withstanding, just curious to know how much time had passed since people had been notified of their hold file placement and being given a start date?
Don't know if mainline is the same as Qlink. When I did my interview I was told the hold file was competitive. In other words you were ranked based on how you went in the interview and could actually be out ranked by someone who interviewed after you. Like I said however, that was link.
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Old 3rd Jul 2017, 04:25
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Originally Posted by Hold_Filer View Post
Hello Keg, have you got any info on QLink and what they are doing with recruitment and course starts?
The QLink recruitment process? No knowledge whatsoever.

QLink people applying to mainline and when their course dates may be? My info on that is somewhat old (three months) so probably not current.
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Old 3rd Jul 2017, 15:20
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Re hold file
As applicants are processed, those suitable are placed in hold file.
When a course is planned, they pick 8 or so from the top of hold file.
Your score ( for position in hold file is determined during the application process).
So, your position in hold file will move depending on the scores of those next assessed as suitable to put in the hold file.
The above is what I have been told!
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Old 3rd Jul 2017, 22:31
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Was told yesterday that they want to increase the 737 and A330 flying by 10%. After I had picked myself off the ground and wiped the tears of laugher away I was wondering if they would random drug test management to see what they are smoking. They can barely Crew the aircraft now. Pilot with slots are held back, I heard of an FO doing command training whose allowances had been increased by three times. His simulators have gone to one every two weeks. The sausage machine is blocking up. Chickens are coming home to roost!!!!
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 01:24
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dragon, your intel about the sausage machine & command training time is correct. Hadn't heard the proposed +10% increase in flying for those fleets, but that is an impossible number.

Just spoke to someone yesterday who has hit 950 hours on one of those fleets and won't be getting a roster next bid period. This only compounds the problem as it brings everyone else closer to a month without flying.

A collapse in ability to fly from Xmas seemed likely, however, other sources indicate it will occur by September. The source also indicated that the problem is so acute, that it will be raised at the next board meeting as it is going to start causing a hit to domestic profitability.

Warnings about this were sent from 2015... and ignored.
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 03:40
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Perhaps time to take a good look at the base structure, on the 737 at least. Inefficient patterns are a major issue.
And maybe a good hard look at the ongoing employment of whichever department refused to recruit earlier.

Looking at the sim timetables, there are quite a few vacant slots. Need more trainers....but there are no trainers to train the new trainers.......how to get out of this one?!
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 03:58
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate View Post
Perhaps time to take a good look at the base structure, on the 737 at least. Inefficient patterns are a major issue.
The one where they were going to save on overnights by increasing bases? Overnights have increased by 35% since they opened the last base...Micromanagement to the last cent.

Last week someone told me they were the only reserve left in the country!
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 07:16
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Originally Posted by CurtainTwitcher View Post

Warnings about this were sent from 2015... and ignored.
Earlier. I think officially AIPA wrote to QF in 2015 but most 767 drivers at multiple meetings prior to the RIN being published in May 2014 were asking why they were being demoted when within two years of that occurring QF would be in a massive training upswing.
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 07:39
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post
Earlier. I think officially AIPA wrote to QF in 2015 but most 767 drivers at multiple meetings prior to the RIN being published in May 2014 were asking why they were being demoted when within two years of that occurring QF would be in a massive training upswing.
Further to what Keg has said, it was put to management that it would be a smart idea to train the whole 767 crew compliment onto the A330 in rank rather than demote the vast majority. To do so would create a short term surplus it's true, but would avoid the problems occurring now and forecast in early 2014. This has been done in the past as part of a RIN and is allowed for within the agreement.

My understanding is that the nudist changed the goalpost such that the above option was taken off the table when he showed it might cost more than his preferred option to demote everyone.

I guess we can only say we told you so.
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 14:28
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"Transformation" budget and allocations ceased caring about efficiency for the RIN saga.
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Old 4th Jul 2017, 15:36
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Penny wise pound foolish.

Originally Posted by maggot View Post
"Transformation" budget and allocations ceased caring about efficiency for the RIN saga.
Penny wise pound foolish.

Not to mention the hit to morale and engagement that results when a professional bunch of aviators are demoted for no good reason, and against all common sense, when far better alternatives existed that would have saved millions in the medium term. The crewing issues occurring now and in the next couple of years will prove that.

Further, the amount of superfluous demotional training that had to be conducted since the 767 left us must have cost a fortune. Most of those affected will be leaving these demotional positions in the forthcoming round of training. Yours truly included.

B787 for me in December.
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 11:22
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Did anyone find somewhere near Sydney Airport who will sign the water competency assessment form? Sounds like a fun activity to complete in the middle of winter!
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 04:32
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Still interviewing?

Hi Keg,

Do you know if they are still going through applications? Haven't gotten a yes or a no since doing the initial psych and video stage. Was told in March that I was still under consideration.

Thanks in advance.

SCOH
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