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Old 31st Mar 2017, 00:26
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Expect a handful of direct entry to the 400.
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 01:19
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Originally Posted by goodonyamate View Post
Expect a handful of direct entry to the 400.
I would think some 330 SOs would move to 400 if needed and be replaced by direct entry on 330.
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 01:20
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I had heard the DESO 744 rumour..I would jump at the chance to fly the 747!

Not that I'm so choosy..
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 01:52
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Originally Posted by SonofCoco View Post
I had heard the DESO 744 rumour..I would jump at the chance to fly the 747!

Not that I'm so choosy..
Exotic santiago!
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 05:18
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Originally Posted by Derfred
How is QF supposed to fill A330 vacancies if they can't recruit onto it?
747-400 RIN?
Yeah, we're overdue for a 747 S/O RIN given that we've just retrained 10 or SOs onto the 747; the same pilots who were RIN'd to the 330 18 months ago. Oh, and let's not mention the dozen or so FOs pulled off the 330 to replace the FOs RINed off the 747 unnecessarily, who then also had to be replaced, costing the company millions. Don't start the APU too early though. Dickheads.
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 07:29
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I did hear one line of thought that all RIN costs were put down under the 'transformation' bucket of money. Therefore not a direct cost to Flight Ops. That would at least explain some of the RIN lunacy. I can list 3 A330 Captains and 1 737 Captain straight up who had less than a dozen landings post training as F/Os on the A380 after being RIN'd off the 767- less than 6 months. I can think of another two who would have had only a year on the A380 as F/Os before retraining on the A330.

Such a waste.
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 08:42
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I did hear one line of thought that all RIN costs were put down under the 'transformation' bucket of money. Therefore not a direct cost to Flight Ops. That would at least explain some of the RIN lunacy. I can list 3 A330 Captains and 1 737 Captain straight up who had less than a dozen landings post training as F/Os on the A380 after being RIN'd off the 767- less than 6 months. I can think of another two who would have had only a year on the A380 as F/Os before retraining on the A330.

Such a waste.
Those now A330 Captains were also very fortunate that the A380 FO RIN process enabled them to get A330 Commands out of seniority. The lottery doesn't end at day 1!
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 11:10
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I did hear one line of thought that all RIN costs were put down under the 'transformation' bucket of money. Therefore not a direct cost to Flight Ops.
Dear God in Heaven. For any of you that don't get into QF, I could not paint a more accurate picture of the world you dodged a bullet on than that. Greasy pole climbing in the face of any reality you might care to imagine.

For those that make it, the best of luck - I do sincerely hope you enjoy it. What 'they' want is the blind obedience that is the cornerstone of every financial and empire disaster that has befallen those far greater than Joycie boy. And incidentally, the antithesis of any 'sound' flight deck operation.
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 12:15
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I did hear one line of thought that all RIN costs were put down under the 'transformation' bucket of money. Therefore not a direct cost to Flight Ops.
That would explain FltOps management's cavalier attitude towards the whole thing. The net cost effect is unchanged (in the millions if not tens of millions) but their KPIs were safe. Where's that engagement survey? I stand by my initial assessment. Welcome aboard the ship of fools me hearties.
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 14:14
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Originally Posted by V-Jet View Post
Dear God in Heaven. For any of you that don't get into QF, I could not paint a more accurate picture of the world you dodged a bullet on than that. Greasy pole climbing in the face of any reality you might care to imagine.
Just trying to work out if I've misinterpreted something here? Are you suggesting I think this was justifiable, logical or sensible; or were you commenting more generically on some of the strange calls that Qantas makes when they're accounting money to suit their purposes?

The the, yes. Like JA jagging an A380 command slot at a time when he may not have been otherwise able to, the various RINs brought up a number of unpredictable outcomes. As far as I could tell there were two 737 Captains affected by that particular A380 F/O RIN. They checked to line 5-7 months behind me. Those A330 command slots also prevented a further 4 A380 F/Os from being forcibly moved to the A330 as F/Os so as is usual with RINs, some people win pretty big, some win a little, some don't win at all.

Directanywhere, agreed.
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Old 2nd Apr 2017, 13:13
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So, just for a bit of a laugh I applied to q-link for the FO position.

Did their testing, seemed harder than mainline but some questions were the same.

Got an invite for interview.
The quantity and quality of applicants for mainline are invariably going to be higher than Link so the bar will be set higher for psych results.
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Old 3rd Apr 2017, 05:49
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So, just for a bit of a laugh I applied to q-link for the FO position.
You applied as a joke?
Am I missing something?
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Old 3rd Apr 2017, 10:12
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Originally Posted by hestonfysh View Post
Wouldn't it be a real laugh if you took time off work, spent money on prep, flights and accommodation and then you got a no because you are too arrogant? You could report back and we could all have a good chuckle.
#nailedit 😂
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Old 3rd Apr 2017, 22:59
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post
Just trying to work out if I've misinterpreted something here? Are you suggesting I think this was justifiable, logical or sensible; or were you commenting more generically on some of the strange calls that Qantas makes when they're accounting money to suit their purposes?

No - I didn't think you thought it was justifiable, logical or sensible (only someone profiting from it personally would think that!). I was pointing out that this type of lunacy is merely the tip of the iceberg. Their bizarre accounting techniques create bonuses but are a window onto a far greater malaise. They don't think they are running an airline, they certainly don't care about the brand or the aircraft - those in charge are interested in two primary goals, maintaining their jobs and increasing their power/wealth. Nothing else matters.
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Old 3rd Apr 2017, 23:19
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Their bizarre accounting techniques create bonuses but are a window onto a far greater malaise

A quick look at their narrative exposes that, the industrial campaign of 'terminal decline' in 2011 was quietly matched with a whole bunch of share options for insiders...

When the fleet write down (all permissible under AASB- at management discretion) ensured that the on paper loss would be massive, most myopic financially illiterate unions fell for it leaving their members pay frozen. Then options amazingly vested....

With the remaining pilots subject to BS with uniform/dress standards that strangely don't apply when the HR wanders aimlessly, hoping for relevance, is it any wonder the recruiting process is sub optimal? It is a battle for relevance.
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Old 4th Apr 2017, 04:25
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Wondering on peoples thoughts and apologies in advanced if someone in the same position as myself has already posted. Currently in the application process at present for SO position where my assessment day and sim check are complete.

I was then emailed asking for medical and reference checks to be done and the medical is close to being completed and reference checks are done. The only thing left to do (I think) is I require some vaccination boosters to complete the medical and a psych check.

Being located remotely I have spent god knows how much money going back and forth..more so time spent away from work which I will have to do again (definitely not the bosses favourite at the moment). I hate asking dumb questions but would I be more on the last legs of the application process and are signs pointing to a yes making it this far? Anyone made it this far and gotten a no? Guess my thought process is to give the boss as much of an update as possible.
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Old 4th Apr 2017, 07:02
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Originally Posted by Keg View Post
I can list 3 A330 Captains and 1 737 Captain straight up who had less than a dozen landings post training as F/Os on the A380 after being RIN'd off the 767- less than 6 months.
A dozen FO landings in six months...pretty normal.
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Old 4th Apr 2017, 11:25
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Originally Posted by xaos03 View Post
Wondering on peoples thoughts and apologies in advanced if someone in the same position as myself has already posted. Currently in the application process at present for SO position where my assessment day and sim check are complete.

I was then emailed asking for medical and reference checks to be done and the medical is close to being completed and reference checks are done. The only thing left to do (I think) is I require some vaccination boosters to complete the medical and a psych check.

Being located remotely I have spent god knows how much money going back and forth..more so time spent away from work which I will have to do again (definitely not the bosses favourite at the moment). I hate asking dumb questions but would I be more on the last legs of the application process and are signs pointing to a yes making it this far? Anyone made it this far and gotten a no? Guess my thought process is to give the boss as much of an update as possible.
Suggest you turn on private messaging.
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Old 5th Apr 2017, 07:05
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Well I was an internal applicant. Progressed all the way to the executive review panel, I received the dreaded no email not long after the panel review. It will be interesting to get the feedback as to why I wasn't suitable for the position.
The ironic thing is though in my current position, QANTAS trust me to fly their passengers and to captain one of their jets, so go figure.
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Old 5th Apr 2017, 07:37
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Originally Posted by who_cares View Post
Well I was an internal applicant. Progressed all the way to the executive review panel, I received the dreaded no email not long after the panel review. It will be interesting to get the feedback as to why I wasn't suitable for the position.
The ironic thing is though in my current position, QANTAS trust me to fly their passengers and to captain one of their jets, so go figure.
Will you get feedback?

Does anyone actually know what Recruiters are after? Heard a lot of stories of people progressing through all stages, giving good references and then getting a no, and these people were genuinely good, hard working guys and girls?

Why progress someone onto the sim and then cull them perhaps due to an earlier stage of testing?

Is there a limit on the amount they put on hold?
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