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Old 26th Jun 2021, 13:50
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Originally Posted by anonfly View Post
Iíve heard that itís starting to go gang busters over in the land of the free. Overall what are opportunities like for a 737 FO with a bit of time on type?
Looking at all opportunities as the land of the fearful is getting a bit tedious.
Southern had taken E-3's pre-covid, I haven't heard anything about them taking any ones yet, but they have been losing a lot of pilots to attrition even during 2020-21, so...
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 16:19
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Originally Posted by VH-RME View Post
Southern had taken E-3's pre-covid, I haven't heard anything about them taking any ones yet, but they have been losing a lot of pilots to attrition even during 2020-21, so...
Unless the pilot pool here gets dryer than the Sahara, you are not getting a shot at a narrow body on an E3 anywhere unless you're already at a regional.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 17:02
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Originally Posted by umop apisdn View Post
Unless the pilot pool here gets dryer than the Sahara, you are not getting a shot at a narrow body on an E3 anywhere unless you're already at a regional.
I would revisit that in about 12-18 months once hiring starts going nuts again.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 17:46
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Going from Australia to the USA straight onto a 73 or 320 atm just isn't possible. I only know of 1 regional right now taking E3 pilots and from what the recruiter has said that's only for people who already have an FAA ATP licence.

There have been rumours over the last 3 years that Spirit, Frontier and Allegiant will take E3s but so far I only know of 1 person that has done this. Atlas has also taken E3 in the past but those people already had an FAA license and over 1000 hours USA part 121 time.

Even if USA cargo and LCCs do start taking E3s, I suspect they will pluck them from a US regional long before they take you with no FAA license.

I was at an Allegiant job fair pre covid and the recruiter said that they will take 1500 hour instructors straight from a flight school job before they sponsor a foreigner.

So the pilot pool will have to be very dry for some of the predictions above to come true.
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Old 26th Jun 2021, 23:25
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
Going from Australia to the USA straight onto a 73 or 320 atm just isn't possible. I only know of 1 regional right now taking E3 pilots and from what the recruiter has said that's only for people who already have an FAA ATP licence.

There have been rumours over the last 3 years that Spirit, Frontier and Allegiant will take E3s but so far I only know of 1 person that has done this. Atlas has also taken E3 in the past but those people already had an FAA license and over 1000 hours USA part 121 time.

Even if USA cargo and LCCs do start taking E3s, I suspect they will pluck them from a US regional long before they take you with no FAA license.

I was at an Allegiant job fair pre covid and the recruiter said that they will take 1500 hour instructors straight from a flight school job before they sponsor a foreigner.

So the pilot pool will have to be very dry for some of the predictions above to come true.
Spoke to some mates still over there and you are correct. No FAA ATP and US 121 time and they aren't interested in you sadly. Sounds like it will be some time yet before anything happens for new hire Aussies going to the US. I know someone on here previously was pushing the idea of LCC's about to start taking E3 guys but that is incredibly false and will probably never happen.
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Old 18th Jul 2021, 07:22
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It appears Ireland is now added to the E 3 visa status. Congress approved the additional country late last year.....

"This bill expands the E-3 visa program to cover Irish nationals. The E-3 visa is a nonimmigrant visa currently only available to Australian nationals coming to the United States for employment in a specialty occupation. For Irish E-3 initial applications, the Department of State may approve each fiscal year no more than 10,500 minus the number of Australian initial applications approved the previous fiscal year"

See link: w. w. w . congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2877
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Old 18th Jul 2021, 11:38
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Originally Posted by Inchun View Post
It appears Ireland is now added to the E 3 visa status. Congress approved the additional country late last year.....

"This bill expands the E-3 visa program to cover Irish nationals. The E-3 visa is a nonimmigrant visa currently only available to Australian nationals coming to the United States for employment in a specialty occupation. For Irish E-3 initial applications, the Department of State may approve each fiscal year no more than 10,500 minus the number of Australian initial applications approved the previous fiscal year"

See link: w. w. w . congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2877
A bit of explanation here:

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-access-e3-visa


It's hard to read through the government gibberish but this has been introduced into and passed the House of Representatives, was sent to the Senate but not yet passed into law ?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-...losed&s=1#tabs

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Old 18th Jul 2021, 11:40
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Apolgies. Yes, you are correct. Not passed yet..... Awaiting the final hurdle.
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 12:53
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So big news is that Commutair is sponsoring Aussies on E3ís for their green card once they upgrade to Captain.
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 15:31
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Originally Posted by havick View Post
So big news is that Commutair is sponsoring Aussies on E3ís for their green card once they upgrade to Captain.
Wow. Potentially could be good news for a few guys over there right now if Commutair have done their homework on this. I looked into it when I was there for another company and it was gonna be no bueno.

I am curious how that would actually work though given the E3 is a strictly non immigrant intent Visa and the EB3 is for immigrant workers in professions where there are no/severely limited amounts US citizens available to perform the job. I know there is a ďshortageĒ but that could be a bit of a stretch to convince the USCIS and DOL no one else can do it.

Fantastic if they can pull it off without risking their E3 Visa though!
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 15:52
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Originally Posted by havick View Post
So big news is that Commutair is sponsoring Aussies on E3ís for their green card once they upgrade to Captain.

havick,

Wow is right. So this is only for the E3s who are already on the property ? I checked their website and see no mention of accepting new E3s.
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 18:45
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C5 started the sponsorship process for one guy before corona. It has been been more or less successful. Since CommutAir is struggling to get Captains to meet the extreme demand to grow from UA, CommutAir has now got a bunch of new or soon to be captains locked in for at least 18 months. I think this is the start of a big shift in what is possible for Aussies to achieve in the US.​​​​
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 19:09
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks View Post
C5 started the sponsorship process for one guy before corona. It has been been more or less successful. ​​​​
DYS,

Why did they do this process for just one guy ? Was he going to be the Test Aussie to see if it could be done ? And have they done it successfully for a number of others since then ?
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Old 22nd Jul 2021, 19:57
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
DYS,

Why did they do this process for just one guy ? Was he going to be the Test Aussie to see if it could be done ? And have they done it successfully for a number of others since then ?
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Yeah he was a sort of test case, but managed to negotiate it for himself outright. In any case, his hard work has laid the groundwork now for others to follow. This program also gives Aussies access to the UA Aviate program.
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Old 24th Jul 2021, 14:29
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Just a bit of info (maybe good news for someone ?). ExpressJet is nearing resurrection. Hard to say if this'll go but things are underway. ExpressJet is, afaik, a known Aussie user so it may be worth taking a look at the application process if it can be found or appears. With all the current hiring at the regionals, people might be hesitant to roll the dice on ExpressJet coming back and making a go of it ? Just a guess on my part:

I don't see an application process on their website:

https://www.expressjet.com/index.php/



https://www.routesonline.com/news/29...sjets-revival/
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Old 24th Jul 2021, 15:09
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks View Post
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Yeah he was a sort of test case, but managed to negotiate it for himself outright. In any case, his hard work has laid the groundwork now for others to follow. This program also gives Aussies access to the UA Aviate program.
Also means they can now ditch the ball busting GFís?
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 00:33
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Originally Posted by DropYourSocks View Post
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Yeah he was a sort of test case, but managed to negotiate it for himself outright. In any case, his hard work has laid the groundwork now for others to follow. This program also gives Aussies access to the UA Aviate program.
Keep in mind United will be retiring 200 CRJ50/ERJ145 in the next three years. It has yet to be announced if these will be from Skywest, Commutair, or Air Wisconsin.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 16:19
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Originally Posted by jetpig32 View Post
Keep in mind United will be retiring 200 CRJ50/ERJ145 in the next three years. It has yet to be announced if these will be from Skywest, Commutair, or Air Wisconsin.
A fair and reasonable point worth considering. Once you embark down the EB3 path, there is a certain point where you declare immigrant intent. Beyond that point, win lose or draw, there will be no more E3 opportunities for that individual.
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Old 26th Jul 2021, 11:49
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Any idea if they are replacing these fleet?
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Old 26th Jul 2021, 12:50
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With what? There isn’t any other 50 seat airframe that’s still being made or in the works that’s more of an economical option and the number of 70 seat airframes is pretty much maxed out under the UAL pilots’ scope. The chances that that will change any time in the near future is slim to none.
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