CRASH TOLL/Airwork Boeing 737F ZK-TLC HONIARA
Most operators do not retract flaps on the runway. Maybe the should read "most operators in this region". If you were going to configure flaps for an evacuation in a pax plane you would select flaps 40 (more flaps than the typical 30, eg)
I do not know what procedures are in place for freighters in a non-normal landing. If it was me, I would select 40 in case the fwd exits were blocked and I wanted to preserve my fine pink young self with minimal souvenir scars.
That said, the aircraft is on the rwy, the crew are apparently unscathed, the world is rid of another ancient -300. What's not to like?
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I do not know what procedures are in place for freighters in a non-normal landing. If it was me, I would select 40 in case the fwd exits were blocked and I wanted to preserve my fine pink young self with minimal souvenir scars.
That said, the aircraft is on the rwy, the crew are apparently unscathed, the world is rid of another ancient -300. What's not to like?
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Local media report
Solomon Star newspaper
An eye witness Joseph Abana told the Solomon Star that he was at the eastern end of the airport when the incident occurred.
Abana claimed the aircraft was hit by a strong wind to its right side when it was about to land.
“When it landed its tyres appears to have collapsed so it slides on its right side till it stops near the domestic terminal.
“Its right wing also crashed to the ground and as a result damaged its turbine engine.”
He said it took some few minutes before the fire service responded and rushed to the scene.
“Fortunately the crash did not ignite fire and none of the three crews on board were injured.”
Mr Abana also called on the aviation fire service to pull up their socks and to be on alert every time.
Abana claimed the aircraft was hit by a strong wind to its right side when it was about to land.
“When it landed its tyres appears to have collapsed so it slides on its right side till it stops near the domestic terminal.
“Its right wing also crashed to the ground and as a result damaged its turbine engine.”
He said it took some few minutes before the fire service responded and rushed to the scene.
“Fortunately the crash did not ignite fire and none of the three crews on board were injured.”
Mr Abana also called on the aviation fire service to pull up their socks and to be on alert every time.
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If full flap (30 or 40) was selected for landing and maintained throughout the landing roll, would you expect to see any damage on the flaps and/or canoes on the far RH side as it slid down the runway?
Would the initial downward force as the gear leg snapped cause any part of the wingtip or flaps to contact the runway?
The last pic doesn't seem to show any marks or ripples at all.
I've found a video of a TNT example O/S a few years ago. Doesn't show any damage, but the nose doesn't lift after either. Big difference though is that they knew they were going in with the RH main gear up.
Would the initial downward force as the gear leg snapped cause any part of the wingtip or flaps to contact the runway?
The last pic doesn't seem to show any marks or ripples at all.
I've found a video of a TNT example O/S a few years ago. Doesn't show any damage, but the nose doesn't lift after either. Big difference though is that they knew they were going in with the RH main gear up.
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MAYBE THEY WERE TRYING TO GO AROUND BEFORE GOING IN THE GRASS.
As suggested before seems its well offline to the right of runway in a straight line , scrubbed out R/H main outboard tired and blew the sidewall ( see photo close up ) trying to get back ? Does any 737 "pilot" ( not driver ) think flap were retracted for the go around before the gear came out ??
The TNT 737 had the R/H main not extend but ended up on the engine.
As suggested before seems its well offline to the right of runway in a straight line , scrubbed out R/H main outboard tired and blew the sidewall ( see photo close up ) trying to get back ? Does any 737 "pilot" ( not driver ) think flap were retracted for the go around before the gear came out ??
The TNT 737 had the R/H main not extend but ended up on the engine.
If they did plan to go around they would have set flaps 15.... If I can understand what your asking correctly no they would not retract the gear before verifying 'positive rate' on the altimeter...
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Yes. the TE flaps look up and canoes faired except where the bent R/H T/E piece where the gear hit. Must have been selected up at some point after touchdown to capture the bent TE from the gear , but the Leading edges are extended maybe would not retract as the R/H inboard T/E flaps are chewed up and not stowed. Your right very interesting maybe the FDR will reveal all.
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Take the emotion out, you ploughed a 737 in with happy snaps everywhere. I learnt there a bitsa fleet of 7 out of a shed in Auckland based in Australia, I had some obvious questions ?? I am just interested as gears don't fall out of airplanes much where I'm from buddy and there are thousands of landings with 737s daily .
Take the emotion out, you ploughed a 737 in with happy snaps everywhere. I learnt there a bitsa fleet of 7 out of a shed in Auckland based in Australia, I had some obvious questions ?? I am just interested as gears don't fall out of airplanes much where I'm from buddy and there are thousands of landings with 737s daily .
I am just interested as gears don't fall out of airplanes much where I'm from
Southwest jet lands after landing gear collapses
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I don't see why he is on such a crusade with this?
There is N registered aircraft operating around the world under the same thing.
I also don't get what the issue is with having different variants of aircraft either? Pretty much every operator around the world has multiple types of aircraft under their AOC?
There are multiple 737 accidents pretty much every year. Why the crusade on THIS one? What's your agenda?
There is N registered aircraft operating around the world under the same thing.
I also don't get what the issue is with having different variants of aircraft either? Pretty much every operator around the world has multiple types of aircraft under their AOC?
There are multiple 737 accidents pretty much every year. Why the crusade on THIS one? What's your agenda?
Removing all emotion....landing gear collapses are just that. The RH MLG on this aircraft has suffered a catastrophic failure, not a collapse.
There is more to this than meets the eye.
There is more to this than meets the eye.