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Old 28th Jan 2014, 05:39
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Monkey you are exactly correct, it was G15 speaking about DC8s and competition, I simply pointed out how can the 767F/-73F which are in a different market compete on a light short sector.

It has nothing to do with anything that's why I suggested G15 start a new thread if he wanted to slag off his competition he was speaking about.

Let just stick to the smashed Toll/Airwork 737 in HIR. I am getting some new photos tomorrow of it dragged off the runway.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 06:43
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Good to see nobody was hurt in this incident.

On the lighter side, there goes the Brissy based ops spare aircraft for a little while. Looks like the other 3 will be busy for some time (it still is only D, E and F over here is it?)

Get the metro airdarts doing the major routes in the interim and get Avalon to do another 737 conversion.


Oh, wait...
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 06:57
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15L pure gold mate, and yes I agree with you, very much agenda driven posting, anyone thinking otherwise is deluding themselves.
Airwork have been described by a few I know who have worked there in both positive and negative terms, no different to lots of other places.
Sad to see an airframe most likely written off, but good to see the crew are all alive and healthy.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 07:23
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ZK-FXT a -400F is around as well.

Oops, my bad!

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Old 28th Jan 2014, 07:29
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...I am not your competitor but thanks for the compliment...
It has nothing to do with anything...
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The remaining Airwork freighters based in Aus leased to TOLL are:

ZK-TLD, TLE, FXT are all-300F
ZK-TLF is the -400F

Also based in Aus is ZK-SLA -300 PAX a/c (ex VH-CZA). And ZK-JTQ -400 PAX a/c (ex VH-TJQ). These PAX a/c are leased to the other Pacific carriers when their a/c are US, namely Our Airline and recently Air Vanuatu.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 08:00
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Also based in Aus is ZK-SLA -300 PAX a/c (ex VH-CZA).
That bird's gotta be as old as some of the blokes flying it now. Must have 80,000 hours on it?
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 08:20
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Come on Taily, post the IP Address. . Please?
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 08:23
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I guess the CAA will be taking a close look at the circumstances surrounding this incident. I think it is lucky the New Zealand CAA has oversight of Airwork and not CASA, otherwise none of their aircraft would be flying (based on the way CASA do business). I have been told that they do not have a safety department or safety manager in Australia and all oversight is done from New Zealand. This may change following the accident.

If it was just a case of the gear collapsing then it is unfortunate for the two guys at the pointy end. Talk about bad luck.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 08:50
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This is definitely not a simple gear collapsing incident. I have worked (fixed) many of B737s in my life and this is a catastrophic failure of what looks to me like the LWR Side Brace attachment to the strut leg.



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"I guess the CAA will be taking a close look"


And what makes you think that? They'll leave it to their cuzzi bros.
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Old 28th Jan 2014, 18:07
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It looks very similar in damage to the Malaysian B737 400 gear collapse. The main gear aft bearing was implicated in that incident.

Wonder when this 767F is going to show up?
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 06:31
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Anyway the crew are OK, the aircraft may be repairable (or not) and the NZ TAIC will take their usual 2 years to finish the report.
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Take a look at the side view photo of the blown tire. The bearing circlip is popped off and there is no hubcap bolts missing ???
No hubcap no anti skid ( non or a lot of brake ) ?

I Presume the crew did not remove it in that position so who changed the wheel in BNE

Do you think the tire was deflating ( or was at 80psi shipping pressure ) on departure it has run a lot more than just the touchdown looking at the wear on the sidewall, look how much the sidewall rubber is worn around the hub and it is a new looking tire, seems to have blown out the side.

Can some technical people take a look and advise, I know tires get real hot when under (psi) serviced at high aircraft weights ????

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Old 29th Jan 2014, 10:49
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" I have only flown 3/4 engines 72/74/DC8s ?? "


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"Take a look at the side view photo of the blown tire. The bearing circlip is popped off and there is no hubcap bolts missing ???
No hubcap no anti skid ( non or a lot of brake ) ?"


You seem to know a lot for a bloke who hasn't flown them!!!!!
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Where is the hub cap, who changed the wheel.............

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Old 29th Jan 2014, 13:24
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Ya know - even I'm not the smartest engineer in the shed - but I reckon an incident that can do that sort of damage to the undercarriage may just be enough to possibly break the measly little screw heads lockwired together and shimmy the circlip out due to the extreme forces.

I mean the wheel is still on the axle! Nothing to see here, time to move on...
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Could the aircraft have been configured for take-off rather than landing when the gear failed?
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4 HolerTake a look at the side view photo of the blown tire. The bearing circlip is popped off and there is no hubcap bolts missing ???No hubcap no anti skid ( non or a lot of brake ) ?
I Presume the crew did not remove it in that position so who changed the wheel in BNE

*Do you think the tire was deflating ( or was at 80psi shipping pressure ) on departure it has run a lot more than just the touchdown looking at the wear on the sidewall, look how much the sidewall rubber is worn around the hub and it is a new looking tire, seems to have blown out the side.
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Old 29th Jan 2014, 22:02
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I would like to see a piccy of the front trunnion mount...Before making a comment and/or making a song/dance..
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