MERGED: Alan's still not happy......
PER-JNB
You have another operator who is looking closely at JNB as a destination. They have 772/773 and soon to arrive 789. Also a lot of Yarpies have settled in the land of the long white shroud. Their trippler is cleaning up on AKL-PER, and PER-JNB as an extension (with complexing from VA) might just work. Would be better than going via the Sandpit if they timed it correctly.
I think everyone is being a bit harsh.
Joyce has gone back to the history books and is using a previous plan from the 40s...I believe it was called the Brisbane line.
He is even making it bigger (smaller?), he is giving up Tasmania as well.
Joyce has gone back to the history books and is using a previous plan from the 40s...I believe it was called the Brisbane line.
He is even making it bigger (smaller?), he is giving up Tasmania as well.
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He wouldn't have any idea about the Brisbane line, he may be a citizen but I bet he has pretty much a limited knowledge of our history. And now he is making an escape.... Pretty sad really...
Really. The concept of Joyce ever again running an airline is laughable. Why would EK give a him a job given his track record? Even if they think he facilitated a QF capitulation, why would they want such a treacherous, self-interested guttersnipe amongst their midst?
He also carries another stigma in the personal proclivities column which might be disqualifying for duty in the M.E.
On edit: "Not that there's anything wrong with that"
He also carries another stigma in the personal proclivities column which might be disqualifying for duty in the M.E.
On edit: "Not that there's anything wrong with that"
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And others may not be impressed, I would think.
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My speculation about him being after the CEO job. The buzz is that he has offered his services as being available. Hence he must sense the QF days are numbered.
Of course the recent remarks in the media about what an amazing management team QF has shows his self belief.
Anyone remember when they were saying that QF would be a company that sells management expertise a few years ago? Guess he still believes in that as well.
If another airline does give him a position, it won't be an influential one.
His last duty to QF is to deliver the killer blow, and then walk away. An incoming CEO cannot have the respect of any staff if they are the ones to deliver the mass execution. And he won't be too popular in Australia after his success in destroying a national icon.
Of course the recent remarks in the media about what an amazing management team QF has shows his self belief.
Anyone remember when they were saying that QF would be a company that sells management expertise a few years ago? Guess he still believes in that as well.
If another airline does give him a position, it won't be an influential one.
His last duty to QF is to deliver the killer blow, and then walk away. An incoming CEO cannot have the respect of any staff if they are the ones to deliver the mass execution. And he won't be too popular in Australia after his success in destroying a national icon.
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Can I put my hand up? I will do it for $300000. I will shut down Jetstar, bring some of the fleet back into mainline, order some proper aircraft for mainline, open up some routes and inspire the staff. Oh and I forgot, sack most of management.
It can't be hard.
It can't be hard.
SOPS:
I believe that there is a simple Two year strategic plan sitting in someones drawer to do something like just that.
However we are following the old maxim; "If its not broke, don't try to fix it, or otherwise break it first and then fix it".
Qantas has been broken, deliberately, by a half assed Asian expansion plan that has zero chance of success, implemented by an incompetent, narcissistic and top heavy management bent on feathering their own nests.
By all means, play tough with unions and pilots, develop a reputation for being a tightarse, but play fair and inflict on your own management ranks what you presribe for the rest of the staff.
If it was me, I'd kil off the Asian ventures and indeed roll Jetstar and everything else into mainline. I'd jettison "The Qantas Group" abomination immediately because more importantly than cutting management numbers, I want to get rid of the "group" thinking because it works against achieving economies of scale. There are to be no cross subsidies unless appproved at Board level and there is to be one set of cost allocation rules applied across the airline that are as close as possible to accounting best practice
I want One airline and a "we are all in this together" attitude. I would ruthlessly get rid of sub optimisation wherever I could find it and make sure that decision criteria reflect the "one in all in" approach. LCC competition can be handled by having Two levels of economy travel.
I would implement HR policies to root out the narcissists that infest the place and dictate that NO ONE gets a supervisory or management position without real airline experience at the coal face in whatever area they aspire to manage.
I would also mandate (and this is my own invention I think) a longer term strategy to provide a spectrum of ages in management ranks - from 65+year greybeards to up and coming Twenty somethings- no more of management coming from one or Two age cohorts - people have different strengths and weaknesses as they age and the best way to protect an organisation is to blend the ages and experience.
Then we start bringing back maintenance to where we can effectively control it - Australia. Then we start looking very very hard at everything we have outsourced. Are we convinced that we are getting absolutely the best possible value for money? What do our customers think about the services our outsourcing partners supply?
Then we start looking at exactly why and how the fleet got to the state its in and start planning again.
Put together a management team something like that with a Board and Chairman who agree with the strategy and watch Qantas take off!
I could go on.......
Can I put my hand up? I will do it for $300000. I will shut down Jetstar, bring some of the fleet back into mainline, order some proper aircraft for mainline, open up some routes and inspire the staff. Oh and I forgot, sack most of management.
It can't be hard.
It can't be hard.
However we are following the old maxim; "If its not broke, don't try to fix it, or otherwise break it first and then fix it".
Qantas has been broken, deliberately, by a half assed Asian expansion plan that has zero chance of success, implemented by an incompetent, narcissistic and top heavy management bent on feathering their own nests.
By all means, play tough with unions and pilots, develop a reputation for being a tightarse, but play fair and inflict on your own management ranks what you presribe for the rest of the staff.
If it was me, I'd kil off the Asian ventures and indeed roll Jetstar and everything else into mainline. I'd jettison "The Qantas Group" abomination immediately because more importantly than cutting management numbers, I want to get rid of the "group" thinking because it works against achieving economies of scale. There are to be no cross subsidies unless appproved at Board level and there is to be one set of cost allocation rules applied across the airline that are as close as possible to accounting best practice
I want One airline and a "we are all in this together" attitude. I would ruthlessly get rid of sub optimisation wherever I could find it and make sure that decision criteria reflect the "one in all in" approach. LCC competition can be handled by having Two levels of economy travel.
I would implement HR policies to root out the narcissists that infest the place and dictate that NO ONE gets a supervisory or management position without real airline experience at the coal face in whatever area they aspire to manage.
I would also mandate (and this is my own invention I think) a longer term strategy to provide a spectrum of ages in management ranks - from 65+year greybeards to up and coming Twenty somethings- no more of management coming from one or Two age cohorts - people have different strengths and weaknesses as they age and the best way to protect an organisation is to blend the ages and experience.
Then we start bringing back maintenance to where we can effectively control it - Australia. Then we start looking very very hard at everything we have outsourced. Are we convinced that we are getting absolutely the best possible value for money? What do our customers think about the services our outsourcing partners supply?
Then we start looking at exactly why and how the fleet got to the state its in and start planning again.
Put together a management team something like that with a Board and Chairman who agree with the strategy and watch Qantas take off!
I could go on.......
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Yep, the media are finally waking up. The author was mainly looking at the problem from a shareholder's point of view which is becoming more aligned with those who love this national icon.
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Why would you shut down the part of the business that has the much much lower cost base than Qantas Mainline???
I am sure that all the Qantas staff who bemoan Jetstar so much would quite happily volunteer some pay and productivity efficiencies to turn Qantas into a competitive company.
The obsession that a lot of Qantas staff have with Jetstar is just a convenient distraction from the reality that Qantas is way to expensive in the modern airline market. Emirates has an average salary (across all employees) of $48,000 AUD whilst Qantas has an average salary of $96,000 AUD.
Has anyone thought that the inability of ANY union in the airline to entertain meaningful cost cutting has basically 'forced' the hand of the Qantas board to try and cut costs. I suspect a massive shake up is on the way, and I wouldn't think it will be Jetstar shutdown.
This is not aimed specifically at Pilots, infact overall the Flying Operations side of things is probably not a massive part of the cost puzzle. What an airline can't be doing in this day in age is paying the non-skilled workforce such as Baggage handlers, Ground staff and some would say Cabin crew more than minimum wage. The skilled side such as Engineers and Pilots will find their own level as the market dictates.
Another thing Qantas should do is shutdown head office for 7 days, any manager who doesn't get a phone call in that 7 days should be let go straight away.
Why would you shut down the part of the business that has the much much lower cost base than Qantas Mainline???
I am sure that all the Qantas staff who bemoan Jetstar so much would quite happily volunteer some pay and productivity efficiencies to turn Qantas into a competitive company.
The obsession that a lot of Qantas staff have with Jetstar is just a convenient distraction from the reality that Qantas is way to expensive in the modern airline market. Emirates has an average salary (across all employees) of $48,000 AUD whilst Qantas has an average salary of $96,000 AUD.
Has anyone thought that the inability of ANY union in the airline to entertain meaningful cost cutting has basically 'forced' the hand of the Qantas board to try and cut costs. I suspect a massive shake up is on the way, and I wouldn't think it will be Jetstar shutdown.
This is not aimed specifically at Pilots, infact overall the Flying Operations side of things is probably not a massive part of the cost puzzle. What an airline can't be doing in this day in age is paying the non-skilled workforce such as Baggage handlers, Ground staff and some would say Cabin crew more than minimum wage. The skilled side such as Engineers and Pilots will find their own level as the market dictates.
Another thing Qantas should do is shutdown head office for 7 days, any manager who doesn't get a phone call in that 7 days should be let go straight away.
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I've said it before.
There are just too many managers.
That goes a long way towards increased labour costs.
In the financial year ending 30th June 2013.
There were 11,123 coordinators, supervisors, managers and executives managing 23,398 employees.
That's one coordinator/supervisor/manager/executive per 2.1 employees.
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There are just too many managers.
That goes a long way towards increased labour costs.
In the financial year ending 30th June 2013.
There were 11,123 coordinators, supervisors, managers and executives managing 23,398 employees.
That's one coordinator/supervisor/manager/executive per 2.1 employees.
MC
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Ollie Onion.
Some departments were shut down over a two week period over Christmas new year.
The airline continued to operate normally.
Says a lot about where the efficiency gains are.
Some departments were shut down over a two week period over Christmas new year.
The airline continued to operate normally.
Says a lot about where the efficiency gains are.
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Yep, the media are finally waking up. The author was mainly looking at the problem from a shareholder's point of view which is becoming more aligned with those who love this national icon.
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Interestingly the sandpit rumour mill is alive with talk that one little Irishman is attempting to gain employment with a real airline over there.
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Emirates has an average salary (across all employees) of $48,000 AUD whilst Qantas has an average salary of $96,000 AUD.