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Old 26th Mar 2014, 13:28
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Satire, as clever as that, is bound to confuse after a tipple or two

Shows how inane Elaine's (me = poet!) decisions are that it reads the way it does!! If you can cut to profitability, Im certain you could ground your way to profitability too!

A very clever piece was that....
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 18:47
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Alan Joyce will next announce that he is going to hold his breath until the Qantas Sale Act is amended.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 20:31
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Elaine's been working hard on expanding the Jetstar Hong Kong Tolouse base.

Sunfish - He would never hold his breath. He would threaten to hold his breath & throw tantrums for all to listen.
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Old 26th Mar 2014, 20:40
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Elaine's been working hard on expanding the Jetstar Hong Kong Tolouse base.
And doing his level best for Qantas in VCV...
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 01:10
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And Alan hits another one out of the park.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 01:12
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Satire, as clever as that
Yeah, great post MC, very funny



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Old 27th Mar 2014, 02:06
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Good pick-up Hot'n'High, I think it is worth posting the entire shocking article for posterity, rather than being lost linked article.

The Qantas Kangaroo Route a boomer for Cathay Pacific

  • ANDREW CARSWELL
  • The Daily Telegraph
  • March 26, 2014 9:44AM

ITS partner Qantas claims the invasion of foreign airlines is costing it millions and driving a knife into its profitability.

But Asian giant Cathay Pacific believes the full effects of the increased capacity being poured into the Australian aviation market by foreign carriers is not only negligible, but a situation Qantas partly brought on itself.


The Hong Kong-based carrier has confirmed it has only seen a marginal impact on its yields on the treasured Kangaroo Route from Australia to London since the seating capacity into Australia grew by 5.2 per cent in 2012-13 and has grown by 46 per cent since 2009. It claims strong sales in the front end of its planes had virtually negated any drop in yield for economy seats.


Cathay chief operating officer Rupert Hogg told The Daily Telegraph that although its 70 weekly flights out of Australia had seen “a bit” of pressure on yields, they remained successful and profitable, while their Australian counterparts fail to make a buck on their offshore operations.


He claimed the strength of Cathay’s Australian operations proved that not only its high-end business and premium economy products were sought after, so was the traditional Kangaroo Route through Asia.
“In terms of the supply side, you can see many carriers increasing their capacity into Australia markedly, partly to meet that demand over Asian mid points to China and so forth, and partly in response to the Qantas-Emirates deal,’’ he said.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 02:37
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Market share is usually a consequence of strategy, it's not the strategy."

Good little interview, though "the media" still try to create a story when it's flatly denied.
He's a cut above! "Market share is usually a consequence of strategy, it's not the strategy."
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 03:26
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Funny that we have just seen some pro-CX articles in diverse Australian media. I wonder if CX have flown some journos to Hong Kong for 'education'? It's time for the media to show some transparency!
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 03:54
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I believe Matt O'sullivan has recently travelled to Hong Kong to write his recent JQ HGK article.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 04:44
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Pot to Kettle.

Ken, for the last 5 years the World's highest paid Airline Management have been
proficient in only 2 areas, scoring own goals and media manipulation. Now they
are only proficient in one.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 04:46
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MC,

I think he did. Yesterday on-line, his article was posted and at the end, a comment was made that the author had travelled to HKG courtesy of Cathay Pacific. That declaration was omitted from today's print edition of the Herald. I wonder if the scribe from the Telecr@p was also in HKG courtesy of Cathay?

Fear of a defamation action precludes further comment!
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 05:21
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Funny that we have just seen some pro-CX articles in diverse Australian media
Oh Ken, and Qantas doesn't do it? Some of the greatest puff pieces of all time pro Q, links below,

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Qantas gets a great run with the media in this country, always has, recently things have turned against them... now over 850,000 hits on this thread alone may suggest that famous quote "Houston, we have a problem” may have something to do with it.

Anyway, all the top managers are still intact, anyone under that may feel a little more nervous today....


Qantas jobs: managers culled in major shake-up of senior leadership


Qantas will let go of 26 managers over the coming months as part of a what it describes in a leaked internal document as ''major changes'' to the make up of its senior leadership team.


In the seven-page memo to staff, the airline reveals the extent of the changes to roles across the airline group, including its premium domestic and international divisions, and budget offshoot Jetstar.
The airline group names 26 senior managers who will be leaving, including Qantas International security head Steve Tregarthen, senior engineering manager Gavin Harris and Jetstar executive strategy manager Max Kownatzki.
Simon Chamberlain, who led the new travel booking site Hooroo, will also leave Jetstar.


It is the most detailed breakdown of the changes to its leadership team since Qantas confirmed a month ago that it will axe 5000 jobs as part of efforts to strip out $2 billion in costs from the business over the next three years.


However, the top echelon of Qantas's most senior management has so far escaped the deep cost cutting, despite a muted investor response and the airline failing to convince the Abbott government to agree to its pleas for a debt guarantee or an unsecured $3 billion loan.
The leaked document shows Qantas' struggling international division will consolidate the roles of some of its regional general managers, resulting in some overseeing a larger number of countries.


Departures include Daniele Da-Rin, who previously managed Western Europe for Qantas, Maxine Jacquet, the head of alliances, and Chadi Chalhoub, the head of international airports.
Qantas' domestic business will also cease having regional general managers, which will result in the departure of Ian Gay, Peter Collins, Allan Williams, Ken Ryan and Rina Karabesinis over the next few months.
However, the large shake up of the airline will result in some managers gaining a wider brief, including Qantas Freight boss Alison Webster who will also take responsibility for the airline's catering operations.
''Qantas Catering, as a shared resource of the whole of the airline, will report to Alison Webster in the International business,'' the memo said.
Ms Webster was named the head of Qantas Freight in January, having previously been the executive manager of customer experience for Qantas International.


Qantas is removing some duplication of roles in its international and domestic businesses such as security heads.
The 26 managers to go include the previously confirmed departures of Qantas Domestic chief operating officer Matt Lee following the airline's decision to opt for a single chief operating officer for its domestic and international operations. That job has fallen to Jetstar executive Andrew David, a former boss of Tigerair Australia.
The other departures include a number of senior human resources managers.


Qantas has outlined to unions how it intends to shed about 2500 jobs, which include 1500 from mostly back-office roles and 300 from aircraft maintenance.


Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce has said the remaining 2500 job cuts would be the result of ''fuel, fleet simplification and efficiencies'', citing the retirement of Qantas' Boeing 767 fleet by early next year.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 05:28
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Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce has said the remaining 2500 job cuts would be the result of ''fuel, fleet simplification and efficiencies'', citing the retirement of Qantas' Boeing 767 fleet by early next year.
I'm convinced the 5000 was just a figure dreamt up to frighten the government (which it didn't) and please the market (which it hasn't) and QF management have no idea how they are going to get there and who will be affected. The drip-drip of redundancies will continue for years and morale will remain "in the toilet".
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 08:13
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]I'm convinced the 5000 was just a figure dreamt up to frighten the government (which it didn't) and please the market (which it hasn't) and QF management have no idea how they are going to get there and who will be affected. The drip-drip of redundancies will continue for years and morale will remain "in the toilet".
I agree.

First we hear "the equivalent of 5000 full time jobs", and now what are we to think? It seems to be made up "on the run" to accord with the emotion of the moment to make their point.

What will they do next?
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 08:44
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Qantas is removing some duplication of roles in its international and domestic businesses such as security heads.
The 26 managers to go include the previously confirmed departures of Qantas Domestic chief operating officer Matt Lee following the airline's decision to opt for a single chief operating officer for its domestic and international operations.
Getting rid of domestic CP, do estic security, domestic safety, etc, but keeping CEO Domestic? So now we're heading back to the structure that existed about 2 years ago except we still have an extra CEO. Nice work Alan.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 09:20
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Has Mark Howes read Oedipus or is his betrothed love based upon some porno fantasy? I give pig nose a year before it all goes south.

The government should walk away from Sol Trujillo Mk2 oops I mean Alan Joyce quicksmart. Too much whinging and apportion of blame is coming from his direction. The travelling public are sick of him, his employees are sick of him, and even his competitors are sick of him although thankful a complete dud at the Qantas helm has given them some breathing space.

This is what you get when you have management that knows bugger all about aviation other than sitting inside the executive lounges. Qantas is being set up to be pillaged, which coincidentally was also Sol Trujillo's plan with Telstra, as confessed by Phil Burgess (one of Sol's amigos) after the train wreck.
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 09:49
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This is what you get when you have management that knows bugger all about aviation other than sitting inside the executive lounges
It has curried favour with the press and pollies, but that is quite possibly the main reason he has Clifford's support. Clifford loves his lounges, admitted that was all he knew about when he started at Qf and Inane Elaine does do good lounges. I actually think that may be where their whole 'management strategy' is based. It _is_ a bit of a shame lounges are probably the least important part of running an airline, but at least he is good at something. With and understanding of premium carriers on that level, it is absolutely no wonder you end up throwing everything at a Jetstar model.

BTW: Heard what Alan's bf calls him? Ans: 'Joyce'.

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Old 27th Mar 2014, 12:19
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Any journo worth their salt should be in HK now.....it's Rugby Sevens week!
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Old 27th Mar 2014, 13:59
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Smile

Have you heard the latest V-Jet,
Apparently Elaine is boasting about the following economic
Brilliance.
Because Long-Haul hasn't recruited since Pontius was a pilot
He's boasting about the unforeseen savings.
As a result , no more maternity leave required for the hosties 'cos they're
Now all post menopausal.
Genius!
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