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Old 30th Mar 2013, 15:17
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Good one Astro. Ruining another hysterical rumour with facts.

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Old 30th Mar 2013, 20:46
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I had a look at a few dates and the loads were appallingly low.
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 01:14
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Well when you look at dates ending in 2020...yeah, loads are gonna be low!

What dates were you looking at amp? Wouldn't mind a quick visit to London, getting sloshed in J of course

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Old 31st Mar 2013, 03:52
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Qantas Airways Ltd. (QAN), Australia’s largest carrier, said bookings for trips to Europe have gone up six-fold as its first flight in partnership with Emirates Airline took off today.

Bookings to Europe on the joint network in the first nine weeks of sales have risen six-fold from a year earlier, Alan Joyce, chief executive officer of Sydney-based Qantas, said today in an e-mailed statement
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 04:18
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U miss the point. Those bookings are not on qantas metal. It's clever mis- information or mis-representation
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 05:07
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Fuel off, nah mate, not 2020 I've checked a few at random over the last couple of days for travel next month between Dubai / LHR and return and some have over 300 hundred seats available.Some about 100. I'm sure there are good and bad days but the ones I have looked at are open. I'm sure it will build up if the word is good and the deals are OK.
Now I have no real idea whose metal (or plastic) the punters would be flying on but they have QF flt numbers.
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 05:18
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If it's QF1/2 or 9/10 it's QF. Anything else is EK. That means almost everything
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 06:15
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A 4 or 5 hour sit in Dubai at midnight to wait for an emirates connector doesn't sound appealing for me. London was always pretty full but now with the option to connect through with Emirates I wouldn't be surprised if the loads are lighter, either way its still early days, stuff has to bed down, wonder. If the will retime the QF flights though? And while they are at it put a flight on from Brissy, (dreaming) maybe a 787? Damn with all the other airlines out of Brissy these days surely an A380 daily would be nice......OK I just came out of my dream, SIA it is out of BNE from now on....
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 06:44
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Yeah I know but in the mega cramped 777's, maybe QF will do it one day....
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 06:56
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Stuff about new Qantas routes coming through on Australian Business Traveller and Plane Talking I see.
Qantas tips first Boeing 787 routes: Beijing, Hong Kong, India - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller

Qantas new route plans: reading between the lines | Plane Talking

Issues arising? Given that Mumbai and Beijing non-stop have nothing to do with the the Dubai hub at the focus of the Emirates partnership what other new non-partnership routes might it be considering? And if they are not necessarily going to be flown with 787-9s, the only other jet suitable for those routes that Qantas can get its hands on which fits them efficiently would be A330-200s, since the future of its dwindling 747 fleet looks very short term for cost reasons if nothing else.
Qantas has lost most of is capacity to do the heavier maintenance that comes with aging jets, and the rest of the hemisphere has too, in that the MRO facilities available are far more attuned to newer jets, and as some have rather tartly noted, it shows.
Also a earlier critique on Plane Talkng.
Qantas takes off with Emirates, shrugs off former customers | Plane Talking

Emirates doesn’t bring anything to Qantas. It takes from Qantas, perhaps more rapidly than it has in the past, and this time, it gets it for free.
And the ACCC mystery docos?

Last week the ACCC rejected the core arguments Qantas made as to its international operations being a ‘failing business’ and related claims about cost disadvantages forcing it off various routes.
The ACCC came to those conclusions after calling for additional documentation from Qantas early this month, and it appeared to know exactly what it wanted to examine, even though there is no conceivable way that it will ever breach the confidentiality which is integral to its deliberations.
What stuns me is that the interstate media in WA, SA and QLD seems to be taking the pineapple up the rectum as people say on this forum.
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 07:14
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Yeah I know but in the mega cramped 777's, maybe QF will do it one day....
It amazes me the comments on here about EK/QF, lots of vitriol.."I'll never do this again, fly with them..etc etc" and yet every sector I operate into and out of OZ is bloody near chockablock, and 80% of my EK sectors are DXB-OZ. I did one DXB-PER trip where we had about a 50% load in Y, but J was 100% and F was 80%.
Some of you on here have to accept that it's the customer who is going to benefit, they ultimately pay our salaries..and our careers live or die by their approval or otherwise, and this deal is awesome for the average Oz punter.
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 07:15
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I would suggest the people of QLD , WA and SA have already moved on to other carriers. They still have a major domestic presence of course and that is where the money is at present.
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 07:45
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did one DXB-PER trip where we had about a 50% load in Y, but J was 100% and F was 80%.
Yeah it's not vitriol but you basically just justified my comment! Y class was half empty because it is a nightmare on the 777's! All we are asking is QF flights to Europe out of QLD, SA and WA, it's not that hard. Emirates is OK but it's still another middle eastern Airline, I'd rather fly on QF and even Delta round the other way. Well OK maybe not Delta...
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 08:06
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Originally Posted by Direct Anywhere
If it's QF1/2 or 9/10 it's QF. Anything else is EK. That means almost everything
That does not matter. If the consumer books the codeshare flight number, regardless that travel is on EK metal, the Qantas will benefit from the revenue.

Point is, sales have increase by some 3-400% - that's customers booking "Qantas" to Europe.

So that's good for Qantas - since improved revenues will support the turn-around for Qantas International.
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 08:16
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I know. I don't really give a rat's either way as I sit on more assigned leave and watch my career go down the pisser. The statement was in response to amp clamps question in post 289.

"Now I have no real idea whose metal (or plastic) the punters would be flying on but they have QF flt numbers."
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 08:44
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Yeah it's not vitriol but you basically just justified my comment! Y class was half empty because it is a nightmare on the 777's! All we are asking is QF flights to Europe out of QLD, SA and WA, it's not that hard. Emirates is OK but it's still another middle eastern Airline, I'd rather fly on QF and even Delta round the other way. Well OK maybe not Delta...
Fair enough AOA, not directed at you specifically...just your words...
As for the space in the 777 in Y, can't tell the difference in the seat between that and the 180... having flown as a pax in Y on both in the last 10 days, certainly the isle is wider in the 380..which makes a difference to some I guess.
My little girl prefers the 777 though...cos daddy drives them
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 08:47
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You can't have an International airline with zero destinations or airframes to support it. None of this is a 'turn-around' for Qf international
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 11:53
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Two-plane flyover marks Qantas partnership

QF seem to think it's a success.


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Old 31st Mar 2013, 12:07
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EK seat pitch-

777-300ER: 34"
380: 32-34"

SeatGuru Seat Map Emirates Boeing 777-300ER 3-Class (773)
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 13:47
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Originally Posted by Booglaboy
You can't have an International airline with zero destinations or airframes to support it. None of this is a 'turn-around' for Qf international
So are you saying Qantas does not operate to any international destinations with its own metal?

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