New 'Aviation Minister' after Monday?
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You are probably right to a degree Boofta, but really their days are numbered now, they only have one sitting member in the lower house, and whilst they basically control the senate, it is still not enough to give them the power they crave. They are facing two scenarios, if Rudd gets in, he by nature will never allow Brown to lead, in fact he well knows that Brown needs Labor more than they need him, and he could never work with Abbott or the conservatives, If Gillard gets back in, the country will absolutely thrash her govt. at the next election, and so its goodbye Greens. They are gone either way like the Independents. There is only Skipper on Rudds flight deck, even if its in a spiral dive.
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Wake up australia.The real problem is the GREENS, they created this
minority non-sense ...
minority non-sense ...
The Australan people were "wrong", or right, depending upon one's perspective. Ether way. Australia has the government it voted for. If the Libs were so fantastic, they'd have got so many votes, Labor would be in opposition. Vice versa for Labor. The truth is, at the last election, Australians were pretty evenly divided as to who should govern.
As disappointed as I am with Gillard's performance, I shudder at the thought of having the Mad Monk strutting his budgie smugglers about parliament.
I seem to remember people saying the same thing about 'little johnny' before he got in......."it'll be a disaster he is so negative, right wing, conservative..etc..etc" and look what happened to 'little johnny'!
The point being the government is more than one person, however I'd still feel more comfortable with Turnball at the helm.
The point being the government is more than one person, however I'd still feel more comfortable with Turnball at the helm.
'little johnny'
It does make you wonder , that whilst all of this infighting is taking place....... who is governing the country.....................??
Governments don't "run" the country, they simply decide a policy direction. The public service make it work. The government used to control interest rates via the reserve bank rate, now the big four banks give them a finger and do what they wish to do.
Something like this really shows how little governments actually "run" the country. This debacle is a real embarassment internationally.
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The haircut we have to have!
Something like this really shows how little governments actually "run" the country. This debacle is a real embarrassment internationally
One day a florist went to a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, 'I cannot accept money from you; I'm doing community service this week.' The florist was pleased and left the shop. When the barber went to open his shop the next morning, there was a 'thank you' card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.
Later, a cop comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replied, 'I cannot accept money from you; I'm doing community service this week.' The cop was happy and left the shop. The next morning when the barber went to open up, there was a 'thank you' card and a dozen doughnuts waiting for him at his door.
Then an MP came in for a haircut, and when he went to pay his bill, the barber again replied, 'I cannot accept money from you. I'm doing community service this week.' The MP was very happy and left the shop. The next morning, when the barber went to open up, there were a dozen MPs lined up waiting for a free haircut.
And that, my friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between the citizens of our country and the politicians who run it.
BOTH POLITICIANS AND NAPPIES NEED TO BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON!
Got me thinking, is it business as usual in the Chairman's lounge today?
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Bye,bye....hopefully....
Albo to go ?. I'll drink to that !!
Trouble is whoever falls into that saddle...will they know anything about boats, trains and PLANES. Doesnt seem like there is any oversight of Fort Fumble by DoTR at all.
Remember this is Bureaucratalia, not Australia.
Governments/pollies might do policy and set agendas but you can thank the bureaucrats for the resultant pissing away of mega-dollars and fcuking it up. See BER, pink batts, sea sprites **, and reg "re-writes", etc etc, ad nauseam.
We need more than a knife fight at the top.
**As an interesting aside... theres a video clip ? of was it on TV ? with remote control/autonomous Sea Sprites being used to ship ammo etc in Afghanistan.
Any ex Oz airframes there.? Ah ha, thats where our $1.5 billion went to die?
Trouble is whoever falls into that saddle...will they know anything about boats, trains and PLANES. Doesnt seem like there is any oversight of Fort Fumble by DoTR at all.
Remember this is Bureaucratalia, not Australia.
Governments/pollies might do policy and set agendas but you can thank the bureaucrats for the resultant pissing away of mega-dollars and fcuking it up. See BER, pink batts, sea sprites **, and reg "re-writes", etc etc, ad nauseam.
We need more than a knife fight at the top.
**As an interesting aside... theres a video clip ? of was it on TV ? with remote control/autonomous Sea Sprites being used to ship ammo etc in Afghanistan.
Any ex Oz airframes there.? Ah ha, thats where our $1.5 billion went to die?
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Shame shame shame
I agree Steve. The 'great crying white whale' Albanese will be there come Tuesday.
Although he is as useful as an overflowing sewer he is currently the only person in Labor who has at least heard of an ILS or Part 139. Who would the Orange Haired Carbon Queen get to replace him? The 7 foot tall human dildo Garrett? Maybe the lady with the worst mans haircut since the Mullett became famous - Nicola Roxon? Albanese even looks the part really - you can just see him with The Screaming Skull both wearing bad Hawaiin shirts, smoking a Cuban cigar and knocking back a VB. Both speaking illogical dribble on a plain that both can relate too. I mean nothing would actually make sense and work, but at least they would understand each other!!
At least one thing is for certain, the Auatralian race to the bottom is far from over as indicated by recent events.
Although he is as useful as an overflowing sewer he is currently the only person in Labor who has at least heard of an ILS or Part 139. Who would the Orange Haired Carbon Queen get to replace him? The 7 foot tall human dildo Garrett? Maybe the lady with the worst mans haircut since the Mullett became famous - Nicola Roxon? Albanese even looks the part really - you can just see him with The Screaming Skull both wearing bad Hawaiin shirts, smoking a Cuban cigar and knocking back a VB. Both speaking illogical dribble on a plain that both can relate too. I mean nothing would actually make sense and work, but at least they would understand each other!!
At least one thing is for certain, the Auatralian race to the bottom is far from over as indicated by recent events.
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and what makes anybody think the the replacement for AA will be any better?jules will win the vote, tony will still have big ears and neither will catch rudd in the preferred PM polls... how sad.
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'fraid I beg to support the previous point of view on this one. The problem is not any particular party, but the complete apathy of the Australian voting public. You get the Govt. you deserve, sadly. In any other country we would be rioting in front of Parliment demanding something approximating good Government, and heaven forbid, leadership. WE as a nation have to get off the roundabout of Govt. sending the country into debt, then the replacement Govt. (major party) tightening the belt for it's few years in office. It is the dumbing down of society (consipircay theorist at work here), supported by evidence of reality at work.
The conspiracy is that we are now generally working harder to pay for all the debt that was conspired against us by Politicians in cahoots with the big end of town. Banks being my case in point. After the big melt down not one banker anywhere in the world (to my knoweldge) has been held accountable, and that's despite Trillions being poured into a seemingly black hole whilst said Bankers continue to score big bonuses, consultancy fees and on it goes. You know the rest. I for one was hopefull that the 'Occupy New York" thing was going to go fully viral around the world, alas no. We haven't seemed to awaken yet to what is really going on. As for Australia, until the Chinese, Indians, and other foreign interests have raped us for everything we're worth, we will be left hungry. Hunger is the factor that awakens a country to it's govt. It's why Europe subsidises it's farmers. WIth many wars, Europe has felt hunger, and whilst they still havent quite got the Govts they deserve, they at least know how to voice thier disgust at what they do have.
I seem to have got on my high horse here, but I have written to ministers, including Zenaphon to congratulate him on brining attention to some of the aviation issues he has addressed. I have also written to my local members and visited them to strenthen my point of view. Having asked around my collegues, none have bothered, yet still whinge about the state of the system. QED.
The conspiracy is that we are now generally working harder to pay for all the debt that was conspired against us by Politicians in cahoots with the big end of town. Banks being my case in point. After the big melt down not one banker anywhere in the world (to my knoweldge) has been held accountable, and that's despite Trillions being poured into a seemingly black hole whilst said Bankers continue to score big bonuses, consultancy fees and on it goes. You know the rest. I for one was hopefull that the 'Occupy New York" thing was going to go fully viral around the world, alas no. We haven't seemed to awaken yet to what is really going on. As for Australia, until the Chinese, Indians, and other foreign interests have raped us for everything we're worth, we will be left hungry. Hunger is the factor that awakens a country to it's govt. It's why Europe subsidises it's farmers. WIth many wars, Europe has felt hunger, and whilst they still havent quite got the Govts they deserve, they at least know how to voice thier disgust at what they do have.
I seem to have got on my high horse here, but I have written to ministers, including Zenaphon to congratulate him on brining attention to some of the aviation issues he has addressed. I have also written to my local members and visited them to strenthen my point of view. Having asked around my collegues, none have bothered, yet still whinge about the state of the system. QED.
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Most don't bother to write Big Brother for no other reason than they know it will be filed in the "round bin" and will never see the light of day. Evan if you simply try to do anything will local council, you will be ignored. I had a simple problem, a blocked drain outside my house that flooded my driveway every time we had a downpour, and they only way I finally got it fixed was fronting the council personally jumping up and down like a demented ant, making a noise that could be heard in DRW, and almost got thrown out of the council chambers. But they turned up and fixed it. And so to Federal Govt and State. Writing does nothing, people power does, but getting the Australian people off their collective back sides and away from their plasmas is nigh impossible, and the pollies know it, as long as we have the attitude of "she's right jack" they will continue to act like toddlers in a pre school.
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Australia hasn't had a competent Aviation Minister since......er.....
Struth! I can't remember one!
SSDD I'm afraid,Griffo.
Struth! I can't remember one!
And, the winner is.........
(NOT US in the Aviation Industry....)
(NOT US in the Aviation Industry....)
Trouble is whoever falls into that saddle...will they know anything about boats, trains and PLANES. Doesnt seem like there is any oversight of Fort Fumble by DoTR at all.
Most politicians are 'lawyers" or "economists" by formal education & work experience, that "may" qualify them to be one of those things, NOT to run a Govt dept etc.
We would probably be better off if we adopted the US system where the Secretary ( Minister) of XXXXXX portofolio is nominated by the leader them vetted and accepted or rejected by the Senate.
Meaning they can choose people (not elected pollies)who "may" have actual real world job experience and an education in whatever field they will be overseeing ( ie qualified) so they cannot be totally BS'd to by the Civil Service Bureaucrats etc and may have some clue as to the issues actually faced by whatever area or "industry" they are overseeing and there effects .
Eg , Defence, aviation, agriculture etc.
They are "employed" by the govt and can be immediately dismissed at any time by the leader if they fail or are poor performers.
The candidates Political party allegiances etc have nothing to do with their selection.
They are not simply removed to the back bench etc as are our pollies where the political backstabbing ,grudges etc can continue to fester etc.
Obviously an experienced pilot is going to know more about aviation issues of all kinds from his own training, knowledge, experience and general exposure to the industry and its people than someone who is a professional lawyer or office manager, pollie etc who doesn't have any knowledge whatsoever.
That of course will never happen though.
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Albanese put everyone straight in his sad and self indulgingly, (bordering on pathetic), speech, in that his priorities are The Catholic Church, South Sydney football team and The Labor Party.
Oh, and fighting Tories.
Well, that just about sums up a bloke who can't give a rat's about aviation in Australia if he is still fighting a Pommie Party last heard of in 1912.
I'll have one of what he's drinking!
Oh, and fighting Tories.
The Conservative Party, formally the Conservative and Unionist Party, is a centre-right political party in the United Kingdom that adheres to the philosophies of conservatism and British unionism. It is the largest political party in the UK, and is currently the largest single party in the House of Commons with 306 seats. It governs in coalition with the Liberal Democrats, with party leader David Cameron as Prime Minister.
Colloquially referred to as the Tory Party or the Tories, the Conservative Party emerged in 1834 out of the original Tory Party, which dates to 1678. The party was one of two dominant parties in the nineteenth century, along with the Liberals. It changed its name to Conservative and Unionist Party in 1912 after merging with the Liberal Unionist Party, although that name is rarely used and it is generally referred to as simply the Conservative Party.
Colloquially referred to as the Tory Party or the Tories, the Conservative Party emerged in 1834 out of the original Tory Party, which dates to 1678. The party was one of two dominant parties in the nineteenth century, along with the Liberals. It changed its name to Conservative and Unionist Party in 1912 after merging with the Liberal Unionist Party, although that name is rarely used and it is generally referred to as simply the Conservative Party.
I'll have one of what he's drinking!